Biblical refrence

[homiemandude]

hello all,

My priest, a few weekends back, said that in the book of Job it states that we will not be punished on this earth until judgement is handed down to us. He said this because he was talking about the idea that calamities in the world are not a result of our Fathers will. IE: some Christian sects say that God sent the terrorists to America on 9/11 because the country of America was faltering in it’s Christianity.

Anyways, I’m wondering if you know the verse(s) in the book of Job or anywhere else in Scripture where it confirms this because I can’t find it

 

[Earnest_Bunbury]

Our Lady of Fatima brought a message from God that because of our offenses war would break out.

…“If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."

It isn’t a tit for tat punishment but more along the lines of letting our offensive actions come to fruition. 9/11 would not have happened if God had not, in His Infinite Wisdom, tacitly approved of it happening.

 

[Mintaka]

I didn’t find anything in Job, but there’s something like that in Nahum.

Nahum 1:9 says, “There shall not rise a double affliction (duplex tribulatio).” In the Septuagint and Vetus Latina version of the verse, there’s also the phrase, “Non judicabit Deus bis in idipsum” (“God will not judge twice on the same thing.”), or sometimes “Non judicat Dominus bis in idipsum.” (“The Lord does not judge twice on the same thing.”)

(Interestingly, this verse is one of the sources for the English common law principle forbidding “double jeopardy”.)

The verse just says that the Lord doesn’t punish us twice for the same offence. If He makes us suffer a purgatory on earth for something we’ve done, He won’t make us suffer Purgatory (or Hell) for that thing in the afterlife. Of course, the same thing may have a lot of natural consequences. But God will only bring a judgment of trouble on us once per offence; and God’s forgiveness will not be withdrawn if he’s forgiven us once for a particular bad thing we’ve done.

This doesn’t mean that, say, one forgiven theft means God’s okay with all thefts by me, either. It’s just per particular act.

 

[Mintaka]

Here we go. In the Septuagint, the Greek translation was οὐκ ἐκδικήσει δὶς ἐπὶ τὸ αὐτὸ ἐν θλίψει, “He will not punish twice for the same thing with affliction.”

Of course, the thrust of the whole verse was “Because God will do a heck of an affliction to His enemies the first time”, so it’s not a verse you want to get presumptuous towards God with.