Biblical Refutation Of the Trinity

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Brother,
Actually I am wondering, when we cite from Quran to prove that Jesus was no more than prophet, you say we don’t believe in Quran, and when we cite from your book this also not acceptable from you.

Yes we believe that the bible has been corrupted through centuries and man words mixed with God words.
What Christians failed to understand is that Christians have committed a great blasphemy by trying to attribute a son to God.

Read this from (Judges 16:1) “Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there a harlot, and went in unto her.”
Is this the word of God !!!

Read Genesis chapter 38, verses 6 to 25. (no comment).

Please read:
50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE

jamaat.net/bible/Bible4-6.html

Contradictions and Errors in the Biblical Text

islam4all.com/part_2__contradictions_and_errors_in_the_biblical_text.htm

I have more links if you want.

Peace.
Sorry, but I believe in more than 2,000 years of Church history including the Church Fathers who wrote on the subject who state otherwise (some as far back as 107AD) and the Christian martyrs who fought Muslims and died for their faith. Islam didn’t show up till around 600-700 AD, way after Christ had established His church on St. Peter. I should’ve known you were Muslim, by the way you put Jesus(pbuh). Prooftexting the Bible you can prove any viewpoint, exactly what you were doing here. Proselytizing is against the rules of the forum I’m pretty sure. We can do the same thing to your Quran, and it’s been done before. You’re doing the same exact thing. Ever hear of answering-islam.org.uk ? It’s exactly what you’re doing. You’re not going to gain any converts by bashing the religion people hold. You say the Bible has errors in it, yet you quote it as if it is the Word of God, you only prooftext it when it is to your benefit to do so. Instead of doing that, read the whole thing? I’ve read the Quran, it’s the same generosity you could show towards us.
 
Dear brothers,

To avoid any confusion and misconception regarding Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) which have been made by Unti-Muslims and missionaries, I would suggest to you to read from Muslims sources, and to think about what was Prophet Muhammad’s message

1- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) brought pure monotheism which all previous Prophets taught (including Prophet Jesus pbuh), to worship one true God without any partner. Which is considering salvation.
2- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not tell people to worship him because he is only a prophet and he is the last prophet to people. He called people to worship God alone.
3- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) called to do righteous deeds and to leave the evil deeds.
4- he called people to pray five time a day to thank god for his graces and blessing upon us
5- he called to pay Zakat to the poor people and such
6- he called to fast the month of Ramadan to let people to feel with poor and to teach people the patience

This only a very brief for his messag

Here A Brief Illustrated Guide to understanding Islam

islam-guide.com/

Peace
 
gurrato alaien:
Dear brothers,

To avoid any confusion and misconception regarding Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) which have been made by Unti-Muslims and missionaries, I would suggest to you to read from Muslims sources, and to think about what was Prophet Muhammad’s message

1- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) brought pure monotheism which all previous Prophets taught (including Prophet Jesus pbuh), to worship one true God without any partner. Which is considering salvation.
2- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not tell people to worship him because he is only a prophet and he is the last prophet to people. He called people to worship God alone.
3- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) called to do righteous deeds and to leave the evil deeds.
4- he called people to pray five time a day to thank god for his graces and blessing upon us
5- he called to pay Zakat to the poor people and such
6- he called to fast the month of Ramadan to let people to feel with poor and to teach people the patience

This only a very brief for his messag

Here A Brief Illustrated Guide to understanding Islam

islam-guide.com/

Peace
You keep ignoring what we say, and continue to promote the message of Muhammed. This is proselytizing. If you want to have a discussion about Catholicism, that’s fine, but don’t call our Scriptures changed, defiled, or whatever, on a Catholic forum.

Thousands of Catholic Saints throughout the centuries even up until today die for their Faith in Muslim lands. We can’t stand proselytizing Muslims on a Catholic forum. We can discuss each other’s religion and viewpoints, but outright prosylitizing won’t help any disucssion or promote understanding between us.

God bless,
 
gurrato alaien:
Biblical Refutation Of the Trinity

here some verses refute the trinity and refute divinity of Jesus (pbuh)
its worthy to read

Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.
Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images.
Isaiah 45:1 - “Anointed” does not mean “God”.
Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.
Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus.
Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed.
Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.
Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
John 5:31-32 - Jesus’ witness was not true.
John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.
John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.
John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus’ words were not his.
John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.
John 10:29 - “My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all.”
John 14:1 - Jesus said, “…believe also in me.”
John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
John 17:6-8 - “I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me.”
John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.
Acts 2:22 - Jesus was “a man approved of God.”
Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.
1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans
Just argue worthy to think

which Jesus this the fully Man or the fully God ???.
 
gurrato alaien:
Just argue worthy to think

which Jesus this the fully Man or the fully God ???.
The same one.

Jn 10:20 I and my Father are one.

Jn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Bless,
 
Semper Fi:
The same one.

,
hmmmm
Since he is same one, how the fully God not all-knowing,
helpless,followed commands,…make no sense

Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus’ words were not his.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
 
gurrato alaien:
hmmmm
Since he is same one, how the fully God not all-knowing,
helpless,followed commands,…make no sense

Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus’ words were not his.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
He did not follow “commands” He followed the Will of His Father. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father because He is only begotten of the Father. If you are begotten you maintain the essence of the one who begetted you. If you are begetted you are not created, as the Quran asserts Jesus to be created. Look at Isaiah 9:6 at the Old Testament prophecy about the Messiah. We believe Jesus is a prophet, because He was the anointed one. We also believe He is God because He testifies of it and tells us He is.

Bless,
 
Perhaps carefully looking at Luke 4 would be helpful? Satan is tempting Jesus at this point…

3 And the devil said to him: If you are the Son of God, say to this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him: It is written, that Man lives not by bread alone, but by every word of God.

So, Jesus clearly identifies himself as Man… yet…

9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and he said to him: If you are the Son of God, throw yourself from here.
10 For it is written, that He has given his angels charge over you; that they keep you.
11 And that in their hands they shall bear you up, lest perhaps you dash your foot against a stone.
12 And Jesus answering, said to him: It is said: You shall not tempt the Lord your God.


Here, when Jesus responds to another temptation, he tells Satan not to tempt “The Lord your God” (presumably “Yahweh Elohecha”). I think it should be admitted that the plain meaning of these verses, in the words of Jesus Himself, expresses both His divine and human natures…
 
Consider these Old Testament prophecies about the true nature of the Messiah.

The Messiah is to be God:

Psalm 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The Messiah is to be the Son of God:

Wisdom 2:

12: Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because he is not for our turn, and he is clean contrary to our doings: he upbraideth us with our offending the law, and objecteth to our infamy the transgressings of our education.
13: He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the child of the Lord.
14: He was made to reprove our thoughts.
15: He is grievous unto us even to behold: for his life is not like other men’s, his ways are of another fashion.
16: We are esteemed of him as counterfeits: he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: he pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh his boast that God is his father.
17: Let us see if his words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of him.
18: For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him, and deliver him from the hand of his enemies.
19: Let us examine him with despitefulness and torture, that we may know his meekness, and prove his patience.
20: Let us condemn him with a shameful death: for by his own saying he shall be respected.

Bless,
 
gurrato alaien:
Thank u brother, but this is not true, those verses above refute the divinity of Jesus, as we can see here clearly,
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
So if he fully man and fully God he would not deny his divinity

Peace.
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VociMike:
Look more closely. Jesus never denies His divinity in those verses
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asteroid:
Mk10:17 - Gill’s commentary puts it clearly: "This is said, not as denying that he was good, or as being angry with him for calling him so, but in order to lead this young man to a true knowledge of him, and his goodness, and even of his proper deity: "

Lk18:18-19 - the same passage from Luke.
Brother, are you satisfied with the two responses that Mk 10:17-18 and Lk 18:18-19 do NOT mean that Jesus denies that he is divine?

Mark 10
17As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.
20"Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”
21Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”
24The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[e] to enter the kingdom of God! 25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
26The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”
27Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
28Peter said to him, “We have left everything to follow you!”
29"I tell you the truth," Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel 30will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life. 31But many who are first will be last, and the last first.”

I just want to add that this is Jesus’ standard response about not revealing his true identity being the Son of God. But more appropriately, the young man speaks to Jesus as a human being (a teacher) and the address "Good master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?’ is unusual; perhaps it was as too effusive and obsequious, thus prompting the testy reaction in 10:18.

Jesus did not go around proclaiming himself as God or the messiah because he knew that this would not change people’s mind about him as a human being. In fact the moment he admitted it or implying that he was God, he was arrested and crucified for blasphemy.

Beside, the people’s expectation of the messiah is one who will restore the Jewish kingdom and liberation from the Romans’ rule. But Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world and his salvation is not from the Romans but from sins. Thus by proclaiming himself God or the messiah at this juncture would be premature and the resulting action of the people could only prevented him from achieving his true mission, that is, to be handed over to the chief priest and be killed.

Read this passage about Jesus telling his disciples not to tell anyone that he is the Son of God.

Matthew 16
13When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
14They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15"But what about you?" he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.[e] 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[f] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[g] loosed in heaven.” 20Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.
 
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Peace,

Rachel
 
I read something from Peter Kreeft once that made me see how true it is that God is a Trinity…

Think about it…the Father is God. His Love is so strong it begetts the Son from all eternity. The love between the Father and the Son is so strong that that love is the third Person, the Holy Spirit. This is Love at it’s peak. True, selfless love. It just gives and gives and gives and gives…it seeks nothing back in return. It’s a mutual, harmoneous exchange of Love in Love. That’s why God created and why the whole Trinity was involved (“Let US make man in OUR image” Genesis 1:26) In fact, the love between husband and wife is so deep and profound because it’s supposed to reflect this kind of selfless giving. Which is why, in the words of Scott Hahn, after about 9 months, you have to give this profound love a name.
If God were not Trinity, then He would have had to create out of need to be loved, not because He was Love, and that, my dear brothers and sisters, is not real love. That would limit Him, and I for one worship a limitless, eternal , not in need of anything God.
Amen.
 
the trinity is not an easy concept. But mohammad created an “easy” god, limiting him to the human-created mathematical number One. Such a limited and easy god is not God. Thats why it is very hard for muslims to understand Jesus’ words.

by the way, muslims keep saying that because people put their words in the bible therefore its not Gods words anymore. They fail to understand that it is written by HUMANS under his Guidance and not by Allah himself. And aswe already showed, allah’s quran, the eternal tablet in heaven, contains borrowed fables, legends ,rabbinical interpretations and apocryphal books, therefore its neither eternal nor from God. Not to mention that God is eternal, but when you claim a book is eternal, the you are equating the book to allah then commiting shirk ( association of partners).

God bless you
 
gurrato alaien:
Brother,
Actually I am wondering, when we cite from Quran to prove that Jesus was no more than prophet, you say we don’t believe in Quran, and when we cite from your book this also not acceptable from you.

Yes we believe that the bible has been corrupted through centuries and man words mixed with God words.
What Christians failed to understand is that Christians have committed a great blasphemy by trying to attribute a son to God.

Read this from (Judges 16:1) “Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there a harlot, and went in unto her.”
Is this the word of God !!!
gurrato alaien,

The issue is not citing the Bible, but in your interpretation of what the Bible says. When someone on this forum cites the Quran as evidence of Islamic duplicity they are immediately chided for misinterpreting what the Quran really means. Are you not citing the Bible for your own agenda in the same way those who wish to defame Islam are doing with the Quran?

Is your evidence of corruption that the Bible demonstrates both the godly and ungodly? The Bible is a collection of books that tells us the story of God’s people. While the Bible is inspired by God and does contain His words and teachings it also tells us of past events both noble and heinous. Should we not learn from the mistakes of others?

I really believe this whole issue of attributing a son to God is more of an understanding (or simply refusing to even try to understand) of what the word “son” means. It has be defined and clarified ad nauseum on this forum so I will not address it again here.

Peace,

George
 
As long as Muslims and Christians continue to flesh out the idea that they are right and the other is wrong we cannot have peace and understanding. Prosleytizing and debating means nothing, especially if it’s not done in sincerity, but done to promote one’s own person or faith.

Each person should be happy with their faith and be happy that others have their own faith. Why compel others to believe and feel the way you do? Be the best Muslim or Christian you can be and leave the other faiths alone, for the sake of the whole world.

I say this as a reminder for all of us. The more we think of ourselves and our respective faiths as being the only right one, we lose sight of the fact that we all belong to the same earth, the same race and the same desires to live a good life free of harm and hardship. Let us join together peacefully in this endeavor.

Peace…
 
A Brief Biblical Defense of the Holy Trinity
(1) There is ONLY ONE GOD
“the Lord our God is ONE Lord” (Deut 6:4; 4:35,39; 32:39; Mk 12:29)
“I am the Lord and there is no other” (Isa 45:5; 43:10; 44:6,8; etc)
“there is no God besides Me” (2 Sam 7:22; 22:32; Neh 9:6; Jer 10:10-11)
“there is ONE God” (Rom 3:30; 1 Cor 8:6; 1 Tim 2:5; James 2:19)
“there is no other God but ONE” (1 Cor 8:4; Gal 3:20; Eph 4:6)
“the ONLY true [wise] God” (John 17:3; Rom 16:27; 1 Tim 1:17; Jude 25)
(2) There are “so-called” gods that are not really “gods” at all
(Jer 10:10-11; Acts 14:11-15; 1 Cor 8:4-6; 2 Cor 4:4; Gal 4:8; etc)
(3) The Father is THE God
(Matt 6:9; 11:25; John 17:3; 2 Pet 1:17; etc)
(4) The Son is THE God
(John 1:1ff; 5:18; 8:58; 10:30-33; 20:28; Matt 1:23; Rom 9:5; Col 1:16-17; 2:9; Titus 2:13; Heb 1:8; etc)
(5) The Holy Spirit is THE God
(Acts 5:3-4 “lie to the Holy Spirit…lied to GOD”; 2 Cor 3:17 “the Lord is the Spirit”)
(6) The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are personal and DISTINCT
(Matt 3:16-17; 28:19; 2 Cor 13:14; John 14:16; 17:5; etc)
(7) Therefore, the ONE GOD is THREE PERSONS, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit according to the Bible
Taken from bringyou.to/apologetics/num5.htm
 
The Trinity refuted by Christ himself

"And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): 'O ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ! Did you say unto men: Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?’ He will say: ‘Glory be to you! It was not for me to say that which I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would have surely known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.’
‘Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allah) did command me to say: “Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things’.
[Al-Qur’an, 5: 116-117]

In the ‘Gospel according to Mark’, chapter 12, verses 28-34, we are able to read one of the statements, made by Christ himself, which categorically denies the doctrine of the trinity:
"Then one of the lawyers, who had been listening to these discussions and noted how well he answered, came forward and asked him, ‘Which commandment is the first of all?’

Jesus answered, 'The first is, “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is the only Lord; love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”

The second is this: “Love your neighbour as yourself.”

‘Well said, Master. Your are right in saying that God is one and beside him there is no other. And to love him with all your heart, all your understanding, and all your strength, and to love your neighbour as yourself - that is far more than any burnt offerings.’ When Jesus saw how sensibly he answered, he said to him: ‘You are not far from the Kingdom of God’."

Here we have a statement by Jesus (on him be peace) declaring “God to be One”. Not two; not three; but ONE!

Then there is the lawyer; a man well acquainted with ‘divine law’, that is the laws revealed to the Prophets (on them be peace). This lawyer, with his knowledge of the Scriptures, was already aware of the truth, that “there is only One God”. The reply given by Jesus (on him be peace) to his question, was the already confirmed revelation inspired to the Prophet Moses (on him be peace). [Deuteronomy 6, verses 4-5]

This message to mankind resounds throughout the Scriptures: “You have had sure proof that the Lord is God; there is no other”. [Deuteronomy 4, verse 35]

“This day, then, be sure and take to heart that the Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.” [Deuteronomy 4, verse 39]

“I am the Lord, there is no other; there is no god beside me… so that men from the rising and setting sun may know that there is none but I: I am the Lord, there is no other.” [Book of Isaiah 45, verses 5-6]

All the above quotations proclaim in plain, simple language that the people of the east and the west are required to believe that: “There is no ilaah (god) worthy of worship except Allah”

“O people of the Scripture! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught except the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word (“Be!” - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit (Ruuh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: ‘Three (trinity)!’ Cease! (It is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilaah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.” [Al-Qur’an, 4:171]

Those ‘Christians’ who uphold and protect the doctrine of the trinity by declaring that God is three in one and one in three are surely the misguided and misguiders of people. Their children are taught basic arithmetic in school where they learn that one = one. They are then asked to accept that three = one and one = three! What blatant denial of truth! Their constant denial - covering up - cannot make something - in this case the trinity- which is based on falsity become the truth. What is false, is false. It doesn’t matter how many coatings or layers of denial are applied. It will always remain false. We as Muslims, Insha’ Allah, understand the basic difference between that which is Halal and that which is Haram. Those proponents of the trinity are no longer able to make that distinction.

“Say ‘O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! You have nothing (as regards Guidance) till you act according to the Tauraat, the Injeel, and what has (now) been sent down to you from your Lord (the Qur’an).’ Verily, that which has been sent down to you from your Lord increases in many of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieve.” [Al-Qur’an, 5:68]
 
Some Christians often explain the concept of the Trinity as an impossibly difficult mystery to comprehend and some Muslims by stating it makes no logical sense, yet Christian and Muslim alike all unquestioningly except the unlimited and incomprehensible power of creation. Why accept that God created everything out of nothing then attempt to limit His power when it comes to how He relates to humanity? Why can’t God be triune? How is that more illogical than creating everything out of nothing?

If your faith dictates otherwise do not believe in the Trinity, but unless you can answer why God couldn’t be triune this debate is pointless.

Peace,

George
 
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