for starters try ZPE[Plasma cosmology/quantum gravity] by Setterfield and especially white hole cosmology by Russell Humphreys which suggests that the earth may be 6000 years old,while the Universe appears as billions of years old - twinc
The Omphalists believe God created the world with the appearance of age. God could have created Adam and Eve with belly buttons (hence omphalos) that they never needed, with light never shed by real stars, with tree rings there were never produced by growth.
Common sense would say that the Big Bang or any scientific theory cannot address the origin of the human being because science is limited to the material/physical realm. Natural science can only address the natural aspects of the human anatomy which decomposes. In order to truly and really understand the human person, one needs to go beyond anatomy to the realm of the spiritual or supernatural.
Since man is a composite being, physical and spiritual, then science should be able to contribute to an understanding of the origin of man’s physical body, which good evidence indicates, has a pre-history in the natural, material processes of nature.
Do you then deny that Our Divine Lord was born 2000 years ago?
No - I’m not an omphalist.
Absolutely!God is in charge , Not Bang.bluelake
You exaggerate what is known about human origins. We have only just begun to understand.
Big Bang, being a cosmological theory about the universe, does not attempt to address human origins. Though it can explain, on the level of physics, why the universe has carbon, which is necessary for biological life.
More than anyone realizes, science has contributed to the well-being of humanity. What good evidence indicates is that the human anatomy is part of the unity of creation. If we were not, the food we eat would not nourish us.
Of course, one should never ignore science. But one needs to be cognitive that the various scientific disciplines are studied from the point of view of the created.
This is true.
Divine Revelation trumps.
The computer models used for going backwards in time depend on assumptions, some good, some not so good. There is always the “educated” guess…with a footnote. Current scientists, including mathematicians, are adapting the older models as new evidence is examined while others are challenging methods. It is an exciting time.
For some reason, I thought there was an extension of the Big Bang through the billion or so ages to the point of the first living organism and eventually to humans. Did I misunderstand the idea that carbon, which is necessary for biological life, is the link to human origins?
There is no exaggerate, like i said we still lack a lot of the finer details however we do understand it on a general level.
Ah, one says. Spirituality cannot be put under a natural science microscope. True. But that does not exclude spiritual reality which can be known by the tools of reason, self reflection, logical evaluation, and analytical thought. These tools are part of human nature – the human being you see in the mirror.
No, it does not contradict it in any way.
