Biggest Doctrinal Arguments in Protestantism

[christcnection1]

I believe if someone accepts the Apostle’s Creed that they can be saved if they repent and have faith. Of course I would define catholic church as being the invisible body of all belivers and apostolic as following the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles as recorded in Scripture. In that I am sola scripture in believing that the Bible sets out everything that is necessary for salvation. That doesn’t mean it contains everything but it does have what is necessary.

My belief is that a prime fault of any organized religion is trying to understand more than God has told us. People want to know everything and feel they have a right to know. If God hasn’t clearly revealed something men speculate and then try to support their speculations by forcing Scripture, or in the case of Catholics Tradition, to support their conclusions. This thinking we have a right to know everything is a result of pride. What’s worse, in too many cases, people take their conclusions and say anyone who doesn’t believe them is wrong, heretical or whatever.

So I don’t think that someone is damned for following the teaching of the Catholic Church. I myself could not be Catholic as I could not accept everything that it puts forward as necessary for belief, some of which I feel are speculations to satisfy the need to know. But I don’t think that believing these speculatons denies salvation anymore than it denies salvation to Protestants who believe their particular ideas are necessary.

I belong to the Presbyterian Church in Canada, whose requirement for membership is to affirm the Apostle’s Creed.

Well, I’m glad you don’t believe that Catholics are damned to hell. Many Protestants would claim that because of our false beliefs, our “faith” is not the true saving faith one needs in order to be saved.

Do you value the ECF’s interpretation on the Bible? What kind of authority do you rest on to know which “interpretations” of the Bible are correct? For me, an educated guess does not cut it, but I cannot speak for other people.

Although I do not subcribe to your convictions, I do not think they are unreasonable either. Take care…

JB

 

[SyCarl]

Well, I’m glad you don’t believe that Catholics are damned to hell. Many Protestants would claim that because of our false beliefs, our “faith” is not the true saving faith one needs in order to be saved.

Do you value the ECF’s interpretation on the Bible? What kind of authority do you rest on to know which “interpretations” of the Bible are correct? For me, an educated guess does not cut it, but I cannot speak for other people.

Although I do not subcribe to your convictions, I do not think they are unreasonable either. Take care…

JB

I have been reading the early church fathers (boy is there ever a lot to read). I find them interesting although they can sometimes contradict themselves so it difficult to know exactly what they thought. Of course they are not infallible but I am surprised to find many statements that can be seen as supporting Protestant belief even if they may say something different elsewhere. Of course I guess I do read with a Protestant mindset. I do not think I will be following Cardinal Newman.

I guess I trust the Holy Spirit to guide me to what God wants me to know. I find that sometimes I have difficulty with a passage but as I read other parts of the Bible the meaning of a passage I previously suddenly strikes me. I do read various commentaries as I value all the assistance I get. I have found insight in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the notes in the Douhay Rheims Bible, for example.

 

[lak611]

Most Protestant Christians would say sin is always wrong, but there is not any real reason to worry because “Jesus paid your sin debt in full.” If you sin, you are not in any real danger of losing your salvation because you are saved by faith alone. This was Martin Luthers position, and remains the position of most Protestants.

There are many Protestants who are Arminians, not Calvinists. The Arminians believe that salvation can be lost.

 

[christcnection1]

I have been reading the early church fathers (boy is there ever a lot to read). I find them interesting although they can sometimes contradict themselves so it difficult to know exactly what they thought. Of course they are not infallible but I am surprised to find many statements that can be seen as supporting Protestant belief even if they may say something different elsewhere. Of course I guess I do read with a Protestant mindset. I do not think I will be following Cardinal Newman.

I guess I trust the Holy Spirit to guide me to what God wants me to know. I find that sometimes I have difficulty with a passage but as I read other parts of the Bible the meaning of a passage I previously suddenly strikes me. I do read various commentaries as I value all the assistance I get. I have found insight in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the notes in the Douhay Rheims Bible, for example.

…guess one day all these mysteries will be revealed.

 

[mark_a]

Then you would have misunderstood the doctrine as I know of few Protestants, if any, who would say that you are free to sin.

I know a few who used osas to lose their fear to sin. These people were not mental giants, if you know what I mean.

osas is too hard for your average Joe to understand.

That’s why a few catch phrases can go a long way:

Faith and works.

Scripture and Tradition.

Nice and simple for people like me.

 

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