Bill Moyers signing off from `Now' and TV journalism after three decades

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NEW YORK – “I was just in the editing room, working on the last piece,” Bill Moyers says. “I thought: `I’ve done this so many times, and each one is as difficult as the last one.’ Maybe finally I’ve broken the habit.”

It hasn’t been so much a habit for Moyers as a truth-telling mission during his three decades as a TV journalist. But come next week, he will sign off from “Now,” the weekly PBS newsmagazine he began in 2002, as, at age 70, he retires from television. “I’m going out telling the story that I think is the biggest story of our time: how the right-wing media has become a partisan propaganda arm of the Republican National Committee,” . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com …

Another enemy of the Catholic Church signing off.
 
In case people don’t know. Moyers is the single most important person in prulmulgating Joseph Campbell’s philosophy, which is distinctly anti-Catholic and anti-Christian.

*Joseph Campbell “didn’t have an ideology or a theology,” claims reporter Bill Moyers in his 1988 The Power of Myth television series, frequently broadcast on PBS stations across America. During the six hours of intense interviews with the late mythologist, however, Campbell proves Moyers wrong. *

*The supposedly non-existent theology of Campbell permeates current American religious discussion. Campbell has perhaps more influence on current American religious thought than any other contemporary writer. His books fill the religion sections of major bookstore chains; are required reading in most college and university religion, literature, and philosophy courses; and have become handbooks of spirituality to the New Agers, neo-pagans, Gaia environmentalists, and 1990s religious dabblers. *

*Joseph Campbell did indeed have an ideology and a theology. At one point in the PBS interviews, for example, he ridicules the Judeo-Christian belief in a bodily resurrection by calling it “a clown act, really.” He then says that immortality should instead be seen as a mystical identification with the eternal things in our present lives. If this isn’t an ideology or a theology, then what is? *

Campbell against Christianity

Throughout the six hour-long programs, Campbell bitterly attacks the historical theology of orthodox Christianity and its accompanying moral code. He also peddles a pantheistic, subjective view of God and religious experience. Moyers disclaimer is simply not true.
more here:

answers.org/CultsAndReligions/Campbell.html
 
I’m really going to miss his clear and fairminded veiws…NOT!
 
“Now” is truly an awful show. It’s almost a parody…of itself.
 
I haven’t watched all of Moyers shows, but most of them seemed very intelligent and about issues that you won’t find on regular TV. I particularly remember a show he did about the hymn Amazing Grace and its power. This program showed many different religious communities and how they sang the song and members discussed what it meant to them.

I would hardly call Bill Moyers anti-Christian.
 
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bapcathluth:
I haven’t watched all of Moyers shows, but most of them seemed very intelligent and about issues that you won’t find on regular TV. I particularly remember a show he did about the hymn Amazing Grace and its power. This program showed many different religious communities and how they sang the song and members discussed what it meant to them.

I would hardly call Bill Moyers anti-Christian.
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But certainly ANTI prolife-pro-traditional-family Christian, right??

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bapcathluth:
I haven’t watched all of Moyers shows, but most of them seemed very intelligent and about issues that you won’t find on regular TV. I particularly remember a show he did about the hymn Amazing Grace and its power. This program showed many different religious communities and how they sang the song and members discussed what it meant to them.

I would hardly call Bill Moyers anti-Christian.
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When you pal around with Joseph Campbell you better be ready to be called anti-Christian. Most but not all of his shows I found boring.
 
Bill Moyers is an intelligent, erudite man whose many shows covered a whole range of topics including shows which were very pro-Christian as I mentioned in my earlier post. Obviously his shows are not meant to be those of a preacher standing in the pulpit. His are shows that explore an array of ideas.

This doesn’t mean he is anti-traditional family. Thank God for some decent programming. At least it isn’t mindless reality shows, stupid sit-coms. etc. Intellectual people also need a place to call home on the TV dial.
 
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bapcathluth:
Bill Moyers is an intelligent, erudite man whose many shows covered a whole range of topics including shows which were very pro-Christian as I mentioned in my earlier post. Obviously his shows are not meant to be those of a preacher standing in the pulpit. His are shows that explore an array of ideas.

This doesn’t mean he is anti-traditional family. Thank God for some decent programming. At least it isn’t mindless reality shows, stupid sit-coms. etc. Intellectual people also need a place to call home on the TV dial.
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thanks, I need that:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
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bapcathluth:
I haven’t watched all of Moyers shows, but most of them seemed very intelligent and about issues that you won’t find on regular TV. I particularly remember a show he did about the hymn Amazing Grace and its power. This program showed many different religious communities and how they sang the song and members discussed what it meant to them.

I would hardly call Bill Moyers anti-Christian.
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If I remember correctly, Bill Moyers treated Amazing Grace the same way a narc agent would treat heroin addiction, with puzzelment of why people would find anything in it. But with awe at it’s power to influence people. I wouldn’t call that pro-Christian either.
 
Bbill Moyers comment about the media becoming a propaganda arm for the republican party shows just how out of touch with reality he has become.
 
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bapcathluth:
Bill Moyers is an intelligent, erudite man whose many shows covered a whole range of topics including shows which were very pro-Christian as I mentioned in my earlier post. Obviously his shows are not meant to be those of a preacher standing in the pulpit. His are shows that explore an array of ideas.

This doesn’t mean he is anti-traditional family. Thank God for some decent programming. At least it isn’t mindless reality shows, stupid sit-coms. etc. Intellectual people also need a place to call home on the TV dial.
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I guess that means if we don’t like him you think we are a bunch of Neanderthals. Thanks. I don’t consider myself to be Mensa class but I have managed to make a very nice living and raise a family, spend about 3 times as much time reading as I do watching TV and I don’t care for him.
 
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Lance:
I guess that means if we don’t like him you think we are a bunch of Neanderthals. Thanks. I don’t consider myself to be Mensa class but I have managed to make a very nice living and raise a family, spend about 3 times as much time reading as I do watching TV and I don’t care for him.
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Bap,
He is very careful to only put forward certain ideas. He never allows real debate. He always makes sure the anti-Catholic/Christian view is the one that is put forward. He is a smart bigot. Good riddance to him.
 
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Lance:
I guess that means if we don’t like him you think we are a bunch of Neanderthals. Thanks. I don’t consider myself to be Mensa class but I have managed to make a very nice living and raise a family, spend about 3 times as much time reading as I do watching TV and I don’t care for him.
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You said that, not me, Lance. How many times have you watched Bill Moyers?

I think Pat Robertson is very intelligent but he isn’t my cup of tea. This doesn’t give me an inferiority complex so that I read a personal insult into those who enjoy him.
 
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gilliam:
If I remember correctly, Bill Moyers treated Amazing Grace the same way a narc agent would treat heroin addiction, with puzzelment of why people would find anything in it. But with awe at it’s power to influence people. I wouldn’t call that pro-Christian either.
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You don’t remember correctly. He was very respectful and he didn’t act puzzled. He was interested and engaged, and the people were not portrayed as a narc agent would treat heroin addicts. They were portrayed as a wide variety of people from many different cultures who all had been touched deeply by this song and the idea of grace.

On the other hand, your inability to admit that some people may want to have guests on who look at religion as myth doesn’t mean they are anti-religion. It just means there are intellectuals out there who do have this view and it is interesting as well.
 
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bapcathluth:
You said that, not me, Lance. How many times have you watched Bill Moyers?

I think Pat Robertson is very intelligent but he isn’t my cup of tea. This doesn’t give me an inferiority complex so that I read a personal insult into those who enjoy him.
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You said " Intellectual people also need a place to call home on the TV dial." Implying that those of us who would rather watch something else or do something else are not ‘intellectual’.
 
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Lance:
You said " Intellectual people also need a place to call home on the TV dial." Implying that those of us who would rather watch something else or do something else are not ‘intellectual’.
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Yes, I think intellectuals do need a place on the TV dial and Moyers was one show that catered to thinking people. Your not liking him doesn’t necessarily mean you are Neanderthal.

I would say that people who watch Fear Factor and the Swan are obviously not interested in developing their intellectual side. Unfortunately, most of the networks cater to the lowest common denominator.

I also don’t claim to be Einstein, but I enjoy hearing about many ideas. This is one reason I come here to CAF. I certainly don’t agree with most of the posters here, but it is enlightening to know how other people think.
 
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bapcathluth:
. I certainly don’t agree with most of the posters here, but it is enlightening to know how other people think.
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If you were truly being “enlightened” don’t you think your views would change? I am glad you enjoy being here, I do too. However it would seem that “entertained” is more appropriate.

And that could apply to Moyers too. Entertainment, not enlightenment.:hmmm:
 
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