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Lance
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I think we found some common ground. I like ‘Fear Factor’ even less than I liked Moyers, don’t know what Swan is, so I can assume I would not care for the show. CAF does make all of us think.
Bill Moyers signing off from `Now' and TV journalism after three decades
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bapcathluth
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Does enlighten mean that I must change my views to mirror yours? That is a rather narrow definition of enlightenment.If you were truly being “enlightened” don’t you think your views would change? I am glad you enjoy being here, I do too. However it would seem that “entertained” is more appropriate.
And that could apply to Moyers too. Entertainment, not enlightenment.
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gilliam
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The point is Moyers looked as religion as myth and he prostelitized that idea whenever he could. Don’t blaim me for telling the truth, review his record, it is pretty clear if you open your eyes and objectively review his work.
He has a right as an American to not like Catholics and think we are all superstitious myth believers, but when he prostelitizes a view that Catholics are believers in myth, that makes him anti-Catholic, which was my point to begin with.
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HagiaSophia
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Let’s face it - never has a man with so little talent made so much out of it on the boob tube.I mean trying to make him out as some kind of intellectual - shows how short of intellectuals we really are in tv land.
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bapcathluth
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Let’s not exaggerate. Have you forgotten Chuck Barris of The Gong Show? : )
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HagiaSophia
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I’ve never heard anyone accuse Barris of having a major talent, nor of being “intellectual”.
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HagiaSophia
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Lowell Ponte takes a good look at Mr. Moyers:
"…Bill Moyers is retiring this week. After a third of a century on television, appearing so pervasively on PBS that many have called public broadcasting the “Moyers Broadcasting Service,” this sweater-wearing pundit who delivered socialist and neo-Marxist propaganda with a soft Texas accent is leaving television.
The bad news is that the corrosive Great Society programs Bill Moyers helped shape as the left-hand man to President Lyndon Johnson during the 1960s have siphoned more than $6 trillion from productive Americans to the unproductive, and will continue. So, too, will the toxic politics Moyers played a major role in creating.
Bill Moyers’ face henceforth will appear only irregularly on television, except during fund-raising drives at PBS, but his puppeteer hand will continue to manipulate American politics from behind the scenes. This will continue via the millions he disperses tax-exempt to left-wing media and activist groups from the $90 million endowment of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy (formerly the Florence and John Schumann Foundation), where, as a longtime Daddy Warbucks of the left, Moyers will remain president.
Who is Bill Moyers, and how did he come to occupy these lofty positions of power and influence in American culture?
"…But as an increasingly left-wing ideologue, he found it more and more difficult to go before the press to defend the president’s war policies in Vietnam.
In 1967 Moyers and President Johnson had a personal falling out. They never spoke to one another again. With his political background, left ideology and media contacts Moyers found it easy to switch sides and join the media. He was named publisher of the suburban New York City newspaper on Long Island, Newsday. Moving the newspaper farther left, he turned it into a literary salon that invited writers such as Saul Bellow to be its correspondents. …“Moyers pockets the proceeds from tape and DVD sales, sales of the related book and other subsidiary products from hundreds of hours of his programs. Moyers has refused to make any public disclosure of his income…”
“…Moyers has always been more propagandist than journalist, more bent on changing the world than reporting facts with fairness or objectivity. Even his programs dealing with religion and culture seem designed to undermine traditional values and beliefs. His guests over the years have been disproportionately from the left, including radicals such as Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich, Carlos Fuentes and Cornel West…”
“…As many as 30 PBS affiliates had ceased airing Moyers’ partisan show “Now” during pledge drives, apparently in part because its blatant bias alienated many potential contributors. “Now” had also become an ethical embarrassment because Moyers as of 2003 had used his taxpayer-subsidized PBS show to promote guests from at least 16 left organizations that had gotten at least $4.8 million in grants from the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. …”
"Moyers says he is going to write a book about his years with Lyndon Johnson. “It isn’t because I feel old,” he told Moore. “It’s because I feel compelled to do something else now, that only I can do – which is that book.”
Moyers long ago rejected a publisher’s request for such a book about President Johnson. “That would make me a thief of his confidences,” said Moyers. “Johnson spent hours and hours with me in unguarded moments. He could not have done so had he ever thought I would write what he was saying.” But with the kind of integrity that has always been Moyers’ opportunistic hallmark, he now has changed his mind.
newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/12/13/171656.shtml
"…Bill Moyers is retiring this week. After a third of a century on television, appearing so pervasively on PBS that many have called public broadcasting the “Moyers Broadcasting Service,” this sweater-wearing pundit who delivered socialist and neo-Marxist propaganda with a soft Texas accent is leaving television.
The bad news is that the corrosive Great Society programs Bill Moyers helped shape as the left-hand man to President Lyndon Johnson during the 1960s have siphoned more than $6 trillion from productive Americans to the unproductive, and will continue. So, too, will the toxic politics Moyers played a major role in creating.
Bill Moyers’ face henceforth will appear only irregularly on television, except during fund-raising drives at PBS, but his puppeteer hand will continue to manipulate American politics from behind the scenes. This will continue via the millions he disperses tax-exempt to left-wing media and activist groups from the $90 million endowment of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy (formerly the Florence and John Schumann Foundation), where, as a longtime Daddy Warbucks of the left, Moyers will remain president.
Who is Bill Moyers, and how did he come to occupy these lofty positions of power and influence in American culture?
"…But as an increasingly left-wing ideologue, he found it more and more difficult to go before the press to defend the president’s war policies in Vietnam.
In 1967 Moyers and President Johnson had a personal falling out. They never spoke to one another again. With his political background, left ideology and media contacts Moyers found it easy to switch sides and join the media. He was named publisher of the suburban New York City newspaper on Long Island, Newsday. Moving the newspaper farther left, he turned it into a literary salon that invited writers such as Saul Bellow to be its correspondents. …“Moyers pockets the proceeds from tape and DVD sales, sales of the related book and other subsidiary products from hundreds of hours of his programs. Moyers has refused to make any public disclosure of his income…”
“…Moyers has always been more propagandist than journalist, more bent on changing the world than reporting facts with fairness or objectivity. Even his programs dealing with religion and culture seem designed to undermine traditional values and beliefs. His guests over the years have been disproportionately from the left, including radicals such as Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich, Carlos Fuentes and Cornel West…”
“…As many as 30 PBS affiliates had ceased airing Moyers’ partisan show “Now” during pledge drives, apparently in part because its blatant bias alienated many potential contributors. “Now” had also become an ethical embarrassment because Moyers as of 2003 had used his taxpayer-subsidized PBS show to promote guests from at least 16 left organizations that had gotten at least $4.8 million in grants from the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. …”
"Moyers says he is going to write a book about his years with Lyndon Johnson. “It isn’t because I feel old,” he told Moore. “It’s because I feel compelled to do something else now, that only I can do – which is that book.”
Moyers long ago rejected a publisher’s request for such a book about President Johnson. “That would make me a thief of his confidences,” said Moyers. “Johnson spent hours and hours with me in unguarded moments. He could not have done so had he ever thought I would write what he was saying.” But with the kind of integrity that has always been Moyers’ opportunistic hallmark, he now has changed his mind.
newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/12/13/171656.shtml
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Galieo
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Do you recall the hissy-fit that he threw after the Gore v. Bush decision was handed down? It was very unbecoming and for me, shot whatever claim he might make to objectivity, at least in political matters.
I think the quality of his work has slipped significantly in the last several years.
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HagiaSophia
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You are far more charitable than I - I never saw any “quality” to his work.
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buffalo
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They are dropping like flies and with them go their propaganda.
They have become irrelevant.
They have become irrelevant.
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HagiaSophia
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But notice - they make their money first…They are dropping like flies and with them go their propaganda.
They have become irrelevant.
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fix
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Moyers should have left decades ago. He is a sly bigot who is always pushing his morally relativistic propaganda. He fitted in well with PBS. Just another limousine liberal.
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