Binary Universe Theory

[Vindictive]

So I’ve been having a rough few weeks of it. I’ve recently spent a great deal of time thinking about the nature of the universe, the purpose of existence and my own relationship with eternity and I need to vent it somewhere someone can reality check me. So, to you dear reader, falls the consequence. I was raised Catholic, so I think most of the consequences of that are born out in my thought processes as I worked through my dilemma.

God created the universe in a dualistic manner. Reality, both physically and existentially are divided into two fundamental elements: light and dark.

In the physical realm, this is born out somewhat by quantum theory. All of the universe is fundamentally either “space/time” or “light”/ Biblically, this is born out in the scripture as what happened in the beginning… The very essence of the physical creation of the universe was the mechanical result of nothingess colliding with god’s will. In that first eternal moment after the big bang, all was vacuum and light. Light literally became matter by the mechanical processes of gravity. Gravity is the ONLY force in the universe other than the will of god and the will of man. The rest of the universe is essentially light, molded into a physical form that we call matter.

God created the universe for a purpose that is only expressible as love. God’s love for us and our love for god is the only purpose for existence. If individuals accept god’s love and recognize their own relationships are all reflections of that love everything else… literally… will become irrelevant. Choosing to share love with god or withhold it is the only decision you will make, both on earth, and in heaven and every action you take reflects that.

The more people who recognize this truth, the more people will be able to join with god in love both during their life and after it.

Any person who does not dedicate themselves fully to making others aware of this ultimate responsibility to god is decreasing the number of souls available to share god’s love.

The most fundamental truth of god’s law is to love the neighbor as thyself and love god above all others.

In the end, there is only yes or no. Do you want love or not? Hell is knowing that you did not do everything you could to bring everyone you love with you into the eternal bliss of shared existence in heaven. Heaven is absolute rapture.

If you are not saving souls with your actions every day, you are allowing more souls to say no to joining with god and with yourself in eternal bliss. Failure to commit to that goal with every action is abandoning the fundamental purpose of existence and is denial of the very nature of god.

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

 

[Ybglty]

Kudos, and bravo to you! I have only a few comments to add. Perhaps the only thing that separates light from darkness is blood. Jesus poured out his blood for us on the cross of Calvery. Think about it! How can our robes become white when washed in the blood of the lamb, that Revelations talks about. The river still flows! Thanks for your insight! I think that someday it will be to just do the will of God in your life. We must conform our wills to the will of God in our life. Having said that, sometimes I’m a conformist, and sometimes I’m a non-conformist. I blaze my own trail and leave a path for others to follow!

 

[Touchstone]

So I’ve been having a rough few weeks of it. I’ve recently spent a great deal of time thinking about the nature of the universe, the purpose of existence and my own relationship with eternity and I need to vent it somewhere someone can reality check me. So, to you dear reader, falls the consequence. I was raised Catholic, so I think most of the consequences of that are born out in my thought processes as I worked through my dilemma.

God created the universe in a dualistic manner. Reality, both physically and existentially are divided into two fundamental elements: light and dark.

In the physical realm, this is born out somewhat by quantum theory. All of the universe is fundamentally either “space/time” or “light”/ Biblically, this is born out in the scripture as what happened in the beginning… The very essence of the physical creation of the universe was the mechanical result of nothingess colliding with god’s will. In that first eternal moment after the big bang, all was vacuum and light. Light literally became matter by the mechanical processes of gravity. Gravity is the ONLY force in the universe other than the will of god and the will of man. The rest of the universe is essentially light, molded into a physical form that we call matter.

God created the universe for a purpose that is only expressible as love. God’s love for us and our love for god is the only purpose for existence. If individuals accept god’s love and recognize their own relationships are all reflections of that love everything else… literally… will become irrelevant. Choosing to share love with god or withhold it is the only decision you will make, both on earth, and in heaven and every action you take reflects that.

The more people who recognize this truth, the more people will be able to join with god in love both during their life and after it.

Any person who does not dedicate themselves fully to making others aware of this ultimate responsibility to god is decreasing the number of souls available to share god’s love.

The most fundamental truth of god’s law is to love the neighbor as thyself and love god above all others.

In the end, there is only yes or no. Do you want love or not? Hell is knowing that you did not do everything you could to bring everyone you love with you into the eternal bliss of shared existence in heaven. Heaven is absolute rapture.

If you are not saving souls with your actions every day, you are allowing more souls to say no to joining with god and with yourself in eternal bliss. Failure to commit to that goal with every action is abandoning the fundamental purpose of existence and is denial of the very nature of god.

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

That’s a tragic view of life and the universe, I think. It may be correct, but the practical implications of that are dark indeed. I imagine you’d be a wonderful person to get to know – you clearly are passionate person and a “big picture” person, both attributes I’m attracted to in people. But I think your convictions separate you from me, now, and corrupt an organic, genuine friendship, replacing it with efforts to “bring me with you”. I’m now a “mark” for your overarching worldview imperatives, and so you can’t see me or love me in a direct, authentic sense; you do what you must to love me, encourage me, convince me, show-the-way-by-example, etc. all in service of bringing me with you.

That seems a strong, clear act of devotion and love for God is seeking his will, but it reduces me to a mark, which I find terribly sad. It’s a barrier that will now divide us, because you have conflicted interests. Everything you do for yourself and in talking to me is tainted by your pursuit of “rapture” for yourself, and for me, and we are thus divided, alienated.

Duty is duty, and so I can respect the sense of duty and purpose your plan embodies, but lament how it steals you away from real community and loving friendship with others and me, for its own sake, rather than as part of your cosmic evangelical agenda.

I shall never get to know the real you, as it is now hidden away, inaccessible behind a foreign agenda you’ve taken on, I’m afraid.

-TS

 

[Vindictive]

This is the mystery of god… that in experiencing the absolute fullness of love in god, you find happiness only in wishing that others could find the same happiness. There is a sense of knowing that all good things are part of loving god. It is complete happiness to dedicate yourself to the goal of sharing god’s love.

 

[greylorn]

So I’ve been having a rough few weeks of it. I’ve recently spent a great deal of time thinking about the nature of the universe, the purpose of existence and my own relationship with eternity and I need to vent it somewhere someone can reality check me. So, to you dear reader, falls the consequence. I was raised Catholic, so I think most of the consequences of that are born out in my thought processes as I worked through my dilemma.

God created the universe in a dualistic manner. Reality, both physically and existentially are divided into two fundamental elements: light and dark.

In the physical realm, this is born out somewhat by quantum theory. All of the universe is fundamentally either “space/time” or “light”/ Biblically, this is born out in the scripture as what happened in the beginning… The very essence of the physical creation of the universe was the mechanical result of nothingess colliding with god’s will. In that first eternal moment after the big bang, all was vacuum and light. Light literally became matter by the mechanical processes of gravity. Gravity is the ONLY force in the universe other than the will of god and the will of man. The rest of the universe is essentially light, molded into a physical form that we call matter.

God created the universe for a purpose that is only expressible as love. God’s love for us and our love for god is the only purpose for existence. If individuals accept god’s love and recognize their own relationships are all reflections of that love everything else… literally… will become irrelevant. Choosing to share love with god or withhold it is the only decision you will make, both on earth, and in heaven and every action you take reflects that.

The more people who recognize this truth, the more people will be able to join with god in love both during their life and after it.

Any person who does not dedicate themselves fully to making others aware of this ultimate responsibility to god is decreasing the number of souls available to share god’s love.

The most fundamental truth of god’s law is to love the neighbor as thyself and love god above all others.

In the end, there is only yes or no. Do you want love or not? Hell is knowing that you did not do everything you could to bring everyone you love with you into the eternal bliss of shared existence in heaven. Heaven is absolute rapture.

If you are not saving souls with your actions every day, you are allowing more souls to say no to joining with god and with yourself in eternal bliss. Failure to commit to that goal with every action is abandoning the fundamental purpose of existence and is denial of the very nature of god.

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

Try, None of the Above. If you want to understand the questions you ask, put down your Bible, swear off pop-science TV, and seriously study mathematics and physics. Else, since all the stuff you bring up is equally silly, pick one of your questions, choose an answer by throwing darts, and live by it. You’ll have a silly but consistent life.

Finally, may I respectfully suggest that you never again use the word “quantum” in a sentence?

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Note that* Dark, Cold*, and Evil are not created things. They are just the absence of created things: Light, Heat and Good/Virtue. God created things; not the absence of things.

A colleague once developed a mechanism which would project a moving light spot on the edge of a swimming pool. By controlling the rate at which it moved a coach could pace his swimmers. The coach liked it, but found the light was not very visible in the well lit pool area. So he asked my colleague to make the spot dark. If you can find a way to create a moving spot of dark a fortune awaits.

 

[Anselm33]

Note that* Dark, Cold*, and Evil are not created things. They are just the absence of created things: Light, Heat and Good/Virtue. God created things; not the absence of things.

A colleague once developed a mechanism which would project a moving light spot on the edge of a swimming pool. By controlling the rate at which it moved a coach could pace his swimmers. The coach liked it, but found the light was not very visible in the well lit pool area. So he asked my colleague to make the spot dark.

If you can find a way to create a moving spot of dark a fortune awaits

.

How about a moving shadow in a circle of light?

 

[JDaniel]

That’s a tragic view of life and the universe, I think. It may be correct, but the practical implications of that are dark indeed. I imagine you’d be a wonderful person to get to know – you clearly are passionate person and a “big picture” person, both attributes I’m attracted to in people. But I think your convictions separate you from me, now, and corrupt an organic, genuine friendship, replacing it with efforts to “bring me with you”. I’m now a “mark” for your overarching worldview imperatives, and so you can’t see me or love me in a direct, authentic sense; you do what you must to love me, encourage me, convince me, show-the-way-by-example, etc. all in service of bringing me with you.

That seems a strong, clear act of devotion and love for God is seeking his will, but it reduces me to a mark, which I find terribly sad. It’s a barrier that will now divide us, because you have conflicted interests. Everything you do for yourself and in talking to me is tainted by your pursuit of “rapture” for yourself, and for me, and we are thus divided, alienated.

Duty is duty, and so I can respect the sense of duty and purpose your plan embodies, but lament how it steals you away from real community and loving friendship with others and me, for its own sake, rather than as part of your cosmic evangelical agenda.

I shall never get to know the real you, as it is now hidden away, inaccessible behind a foreign agenda you’ve taken on, I’m afraid.

-TS

But, TS, love really is doing all that you can to bring your friends, loved ones and others with you into Eternity. If Happiness is the primary Final Cause, or Purpose, for man, then that act is what provides our maximum happiness. Enough are already on their way to Hell, TS.

God bless,
jd
jd

 

[greylorn]

Note that* Dark, Cold*, and Evil are not created things. They are just the absence of created things: Light, Heat and Good/Virtue. God created things; not the absence of things.

A colleague once developed a mechanism which would project a moving light spot on the edge of a swimming pool. By controlling the rate at which it moved a coach could pace his swimmers. The coach liked it, but found the light was not very visible in the well lit pool area. So he asked my colleague to make the spot dark. If you can find a way to create a moving spot of dark a fortune awaits.

There are 3 black cats living around here which seem to qualify. But I doubt that I could get more than two bucks for the lot, if I could catch them.

Comparing cold and dark with evil is not good philosophy. They are unrelated. Cold and dark are physical. Although we use these terms casually, they are related to measurable aspects of physical reality. Both have physical lower limits at the same point, 0-degrees Kelvin.

Evil is not physical, and is only perceived relatively. Evil people generally regard themselves as good. There is neither a lower nor an upper bound to it. Moreover, it is very difficult, perhaps impossible to define. I once gathered about 20 very intelligent people together for a discussion of evil, but although we all agreed that it exists, none could devise a rigorous definition.

“The absence of good,” does not mean anything. I know some people who think that they are being good by not expressing their real feelings about someone. Good is not, in this context, a synonym for polite. Is a person who obeys the law and consumes resources, and does not have to steal them personally because the government does that for him, yet who contributes nothing, “good?” Good for what?

IMO your insight that cold and dark are not created is excellent. I agree with you about evil, but for different reasons.

 

[inocente]

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

Vindictive - having or showing a desire to harm someone because you think that they have harmed you; unwilling to forgive - Cambridge

Why choose that name?

 

[Vindictive]

@ Greylorn - I’ll start taking you to heart AFTER you say something insightful and original about quantum theory. I try not to take advice about science from people who can’t read a feynman diagram.

@ Inocente - Forgiveness is not always external.

 

[JohnDamian]

Good greif! Let’s untangle this mess. I am sincerely curious as to your answers; enlighten me.

In the physical realm, this is born out somewhat by quantum theory. All of the universe is fundamentally either “space/time” or “light”/ Biblically, this is born out in the scripture as what happened in the beginning… The very essence of the physical creation of the universe was the mechanical result of nothingess colliding with god’s will. In that first eternal moment after the big bang, all was vacuum and light. Light literally became matter by the mechanical processes of gravity. Gravity is the ONLY force in the universe other than the will of god and the will of man. The rest of the universe is essentially light, molded into a physical form that we call matter.

Point 1: How is Quantum Theory relevant?
Point 2: Why the dichotomy of Light/Biblically or Space/Time?
Point 3: What supports this dichotomy
Point 4: How can “nothingness” collide with anything; by definition nothingness is nothing. No space; no time; no energy; no matter. Nothing. It cannot exist; and therefore it cannot collide. If you disagree; why?
Point 5: Describe how Light can become matter?

I am finding it difficult to understand what you are saying.

 

[Anselm33]

]Good greif! Let’s untangle this mess. I am sincerely curious as to your answers; enlighten me.

I’m not sure what his question meant either.

Point 1: How is Quantum Theory relevant?

Since quantum theory (thanks for the upper case) is a postulated theory for “physical reality”, I guess it has to be relevant to everything.

Point 2: Why the dichotomy of Light/Biblically or Space/Time?

I don’t understand what that means.

Point 3: What supports this dichotomy

see above.

Point 4: How can “nothingness” collide with anything; by definition nothingness is nothing. No space; no time; no energy; no matter. Nothing. It cannot exist; and therefore it cannot collide. If you disagree; why?

I don’t know what was meant by the statement.

]Point 5: Describe how Light can become matter?

Aha!!! the only thing I can try to answer; there is the Einstein mass/energy relation:
E=mc^2 … you can get “spontaneous” particle/antiparticle generation from photons, in fact that is the mechanism posited for matter to have been created at the beginning of the universe. Note: E=hf (f is frequency of the radiation or photons of “light” (wavelengths much, much, much shorter than visible light so f is sufficiently high to generate matter.)

I am finding it difficult to understand what you are saying

.
me too.

 

[fhansen]

So I’ve been having a rough few weeks of it. I’ve recently spent a great deal of time thinking about the nature of the universe, the purpose of existence and my own relationship with eternity and I need to vent it somewhere someone can reality check me. So, to you dear reader, falls the consequence. I was raised Catholic, so I think most of the consequences of that are born out in my thought processes as I worked through my dilemma.

God created the universe in a dualistic manner. Reality, both physically and existentially are divided into two fundamental elements: light and dark.

In the physical realm, this is born out somewhat by quantum theory. All of the universe is fundamentally either “space/time” or “light”/ Biblically, this is born out in the scripture as what happened in the beginning… The very essence of the physical creation of the universe was the mechanical result of nothingess colliding with god’s will. In that first eternal moment after the big bang, all was vacuum and light. Light literally became matter by the mechanical processes of gravity. Gravity is the ONLY force in the universe other than the will of god and the will of man. The rest of the universe is essentially light, molded into a physical form that we call matter.

God created the universe for a purpose that is only expressible as love. God’s love for us and our love for god is the only purpose for existence. If individuals accept god’s love and recognize their own relationships are all reflections of that love everything else… literally… will become irrelevant. Choosing to share love with god or withhold it is the only decision you will make, both on earth, and in heaven and every action you take reflects that.

The more people who recognize this truth, the more people will be able to join with god in love both during their life and after it.

Any person who does not dedicate themselves fully to making others aware of this ultimate responsibility to god is decreasing the number of souls available to share god’s love.

The most fundamental truth of god’s law is to love the neighbor as thyself and love god above all others.

In the end, there is only yes or no. Do you want love or not? Hell is knowing that you did not do everything you could to bring everyone you love with you into the eternal bliss of shared existence in heaven. Heaven is absolute rapture.

If you are not saving souls with your actions every day, you are allowing more souls to say no to joining with god and with yourself in eternal bliss. Failure to commit to that goal with every action is abandoning the fundamental purpose of existence and is denial of the very nature of god.

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

Darkness is an option; we don’t have to choose light-and we’re born kind of neutral but with a certain proclivity towards darkness or at least not opposed to it to the extent we ought if the world were to be as good as it could be. Recognizing the difference and getting on board with light/love is the one positive step we can make.

 

[greylorn]

@ Greylorn - I’ll start taking you to heart AFTER you say something insightful and original about quantum theory. I try not to take advice about science from people who can’t read a feynman diagram.

Good to know that. Then I shall make it a point never to say anything insightful and original about QM.

 

[greylorn]

Aha!!! the only thing I can try to answer; there is the Einstein mass/energy relation:
E=mc^2 … you can get “spontaneous” particle/antiparticle generation from photons, in fact that is the mechanism posited for matter to have been created at the beginning of the universe. Note: E=hf (f is frequency of the radiation or photons of “light” (wavelengths much, much, much shorter than visible light so f is sufficiently high to generate matter.)

Interesting notion. I couldn’t Google a suitable reference on photons spontaneously becoming particles, so would appreciate it if you can provide one. I’m interested in ideas about how things came to be.

For the fun of it I ran the numbers and figured out that for a photon to produce an electron/positron pair it would need a frequency of about 1.24 x 10exp 20, an energy of about 3.1 MeV. That would make the photon 2 orders of magnitude harder than gamma radiation. It hardly seems fair to call it a photon anymore.

 

[Anselm33]

Interesting notion. I couldn’t Google a suitable reference on photons spontaneously becoming particles, so would appreciate it if you can provide one. I’m interested in ideas about how things came to be.

For the fun of it I ran the numbers and figured out that for a photon to produce an electron/positron pair it would need a frequency of about 1.24 x 10exp 20, an energy of about 3.1 MeV. That would make the photon 2 orders of magnitude harder than gamma radiation. It hardly seems fair to call it a photon anymore.

Don’t forget, at the beginning of the universe (less than nanoseconds after the beginning) temeratures were very very high, so energies would have been enough for pair production.
here are some web sites:
here’s one (primarily talking about pair production near black holes):
zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/cosmo/lectures/lec20.html
here’s another pertaining to early universe:
astro.cornell.edu/academics/courses/astro101/herter/lectures/lec32.htm
and another pertaining to early universe:
ph.surrey.ac.uk/astrophysics/files/earlyphysics.html
I was wrong about one thing; in order to maintain conservation of momentum, one needs a collision of two photons to produce two particles. The other point is that there is a selection rule that leaves a slight preponderance of matter (one part in 10 ^20 ??); otherwise the particle/antiparticles would have eventually annhilated each other.
here’s a reference:
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_13_177/ai_n54223901/
Hope these are helpful.

 

[Vindictive]

Gee Greylorn… you’re exactly right. Anything with that level of energy WOULDN’T be a photon anymore. IT would be matter.

 

[inocente]

The question is simple… Yes or No? Darkness or light? Now or never?

I’m having a hard time distinguishing your OP from Taoist yin yang. Perhaps you could point out any differences.

 

[Vindictive]

Inocente… I believe their is an intrinsic value in choosing the light. Beyond that, there really isn’t much difference.

In my opinion, existence is a much simpler thing than most people make it out to be. If you believe either the book of genesis or the theory of evolution, human beings were not designed for what we experience as modern “civilized” life.

If you believe in evolution, then we are animals with a high opinion of ourselves and we are not designed, but evolved. The fundamental purpose of evolution is the propagation of genetic material to the next generation and all acts are a consequence of that need, regardless of how we dress them up. Evolutionarily, there is one imperative to which all others are subject and over recorded history, that imperative has not changed. We survive so that we can reproduce.

God’s plan, according to the Bible, we were designed for the same purpose, but for the addition of loving god. In essence, accepting god as part of the equation elevates the purpose of mankind beyond merely the physical principles of his or her make-up and introduces the concept of will. If you reject the existence of an outside will capable of shielding you from the mechanical processes of the universe (god), but pretend that your decisions are the result of any action on your part, you choose a fundamentally disordered view of the universe as the foundations of your own existence.

Taoism and the Yin Yang express that balance in all things is perfection, and assigns merit in acts that would appear disordered to a rational mind because they help to establish balance.

From a purely physical perspective, light and darkness are both necessary to create physical existence, but spiritually I see darkness as an abandonment of order and an embrace of chaos. Good and evil are choices, but choosing evil represents the personal failure to interpret the universe as it was designed.

That was way longer of an explanation than I intended.