A prime example of cognitive dissonance:All very interesting.
However it is sorely lacking as a rational (logical) defense of the claim that abc is moral.
Not many married women in the workforce then! Will teachers and nurses have to take their babies to work?It has been said here that the only practical answer to avoid having 18 children is birth control. That is false. The only practical and healthy answer is ecological breastfeeding. Among the Inuit Eskimos in Canada, families only had 3 to 4 children due to traditional nursing. It was only when they took up bottle-feeding obtained at the trading posts and shortened lactation that they begin having babies every year. God has a natural plan to space babies without abstinence and it all involves the maternal behaviors of the mother. To have menstruation return within 3 months after childbirth should be the rare exception if you take nature as the norm. To go one, two or even three years without menstruation is normal if the mother is following the Seven Standards of Ecological Breastfeeding. The Church needs to promote this form of natural family planning as it is God’s way. It is healthier for both mother and baby and the research shows the benefits last years after the breastfeeding has ceased.
I did say I’d leave the subject…but I forgot the elephant in the room - AIDS.A prime example of cognitive dissonance:
“Cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values” (Wikipedia)
One way of getting rid of cognitive dissonance is to ignore new incoming information.
Another red herring.I did say I’d leave the subject…but I forgot the elephant in the room - AIDS.
In Africa AIDS has caused a huge, huge problem. We could go into the reasons it’s got so bad and play blame games but as Tony Blair is so fond of saying…we are where we are.
Cultural beliefs and/or practices have something to do with its getting so bad and they are often part of the reason it’s still a huge problem. Let’s not confuse countries…in the west, AIDS is generally no longer a death sentence. But in Africa it is. There are young orphans looking after their siblings and there are young children looking after their dying parents. Many of these children are infected themselves through birth. The young girls marry an infected widower etc etc. please use your imagination or just look it up on charity websites.
medwiser.org/hiv-aids/around-the-world/aids-in-africa/
You are NOT going to persuade African men and women to never have sex again - so many are infected or don’t know if they are or not, that this is, in effect, what you are suggesting to a large percentage of the population. Such is the hugeness of this epidemic…how can anyone know who is infected? Abstinence is a concept which is not easily understood in African cultures. An abstinence campaign will not stop AIDS. Safe sex education will protect innocent victims being infected…some before they are even born. If you take the view - better a soul created with AIDS than a soul not being conceived …well…words and understanding fail me.
Get a grip on this epidemic before you go in and try to change the culture that has made this problem. By all means encourage fidelity but don’t ignore reality.
From the luxury of a world without AIDS people can be free to make up their OWN minds about the morality of contraception.
Do you know so little on the fight against AIDS?Another red herring.
How does taking a pill (abc) prevent AIDS?
This is, of course, how we evolved - like other mammals. Offspring stay close with their mother, continually feeding on demand until they are weaned. Primates carry their offspring all the time as they forage etc, they don’t put them down and go off anywhere - that would be too dangerous. Women in primitive society would have strapped their babies to them, where the baby had the continual comfort and food. Some societies still do that. In the society the extended family group would help out with any difficulties a new mother might have - the grandmother was probably still suckling a child and could wet-nurse for her daughter. Our society has moved on in many ways so that this constant demand of the child cannot be met by most women ( primitive societies still do it but don’t have much choice, but then again they may get a lot of satisfaction from it - not having the demands of a modern society).It has been said here that the only practical answer to avoid having 18 children is birth control. That is false. The only practical and healthy answer is ecological breastfeeding. Among the Inuit Eskimos in Canada, families only had 3 to 4 children due to traditional nursing. It was only when they took up bottle-feeding obtained at the trading posts and shortened lactation that they begin having babies every year. God has a natural plan to space babies without abstinence and it all involves the maternal behaviors of the mother. To have menstruation return within 3 months after childbirth should be the rare exception if you take nature as the norm. To go one, two or even three years without menstruation is normal if the mother is following the Seven Standards of Ecological Breastfeeding. The Church needs to promote this form of natural family planning as it is God’s way. It is healthier for both mother and baby and the research shows the benefits last years after the breastfeeding has ceased.
Do you know so little of what I know?Do you know so little on the fight against AIDS?
How effective are they? Aren’t these even more available than the pill?Condoms.
Your question suggested to me that you don’t know much about AIDS prevention and the use of condoms. If you do know about it then I assume you are just using a style of questioning to be provocative.Do you know so little of what I know?
The ABC method stands for “Abstinence, Be faithful, and Condom use”. It seeks to promote a different cultural view regarding safer sexual behavior, with an emphasis on fidelity, fewer sexual partners, and a later age of sexual debut. One successful example statistically demonstrates that the ABC method assisted in a 10% drop in the percentage of HIV cases in Uganda between the years 1990-2001. Thus, it seems that the foundation for an effective national response is a strong prevention program. For this to occur, there are necessary changes in the health sector, both cultural and monetary, which currently present huge challenges. Still, the global response to HIV/AIDS has recently seen a substantial improvement, as funding has come from many sources, largely the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the US initiative known as PEPFAR.How effective are they? Aren’t these even more available than the pill?
After reading this article - virtually anything should be given green light which can reduce that amount of suffering!
When did this definition of abc arrive. On these fora, abc = artificial birth control. My comments were made with this in mind.Your question suggested to me that you don’t know much about AIDS prevention and the use of condoms. If you do know about it then I assume you are just using a style of questioning to be provocative.
The ABC method stands for “Abstinence, Be faithful, and Condom use”. It seeks to promote a different cultural view regarding safer sexual behavior, with an emphasis on fidelity, fewer sexual partners, and a later age of sexual debut. One successful example statistically demonstrates that the ABC method assisted in a 10% drop in the percentage of HIV cases in Uganda between the years 1990-2001. Thus, it seems that the foundation for an effective national response is a strong prevention program. For this to occur, there are necessary changes in the health sector, both cultural and monetary, which currently present huge challenges. Still, the global response to HIV/AIDS has recently seen a substantial improvement, as funding has come from many sources, largely the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the US initiative known as PEPFAR.
Religious factors
In Kenya, safe-sex commercials are banned. In addition, in 2009, the Pope Benedict, on a trip through Africa, banned the use of condoms in general. In 2013 the catholic church renewed banning of condoms in catholic schools. Muslim leaders have taken a similar stance in 2008. These are just a few examples demonstrating the significant pressure – and in some cases, condemnation – from both Christian and Muslim religious leaders in regard to AIDS and preventative-care education. Unfortunately, these stances have significantly impeded progress of a variety of safe-sex campaigns.
medwiser.org/hiv-aids/around-the-world/aids-in-africa/
I too took ABC to mean artificial birth control too, but abc is not limited to pills so when the discussion was on AIDs I knew Kelt was talking about condoms.When did this definition of abc arrive. On these fora, abc = artificial birth control. My comments were made with this in mind.
“safe sex” in another distracting phrase in the sex crazed society in which we live. It is one of many rationalizations use to justify sin.
Yes, we have all been taking abc to mean artificial birth control in these posts. We can all see the difference in the A BC on the posted website quote, as it is explained in the text.When did this definition of abc arrive. On these fora, abc = artificial birth control. My comments were made with this in mind.
“safe sex” in another distracting phrase in the sex crazed society in which we live. It is one of many rationalizations use to justify sin.