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I read a newspaper article today about birth control pills preventing ovarian cancer. I have read about that before and I think it’s probably true. So if a woman wants to take birth control pills to prevent ovarian cancer would Catholics think that was sinful?
 
Namesake said:
I read a newspaper article today about birth control pills preventing ovarian cancer. I have read about that before and I think it’s probably true. So if a woman wants to take birth control pills to prevent ovarian cancer would Catholics think that was sinful?
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I think it would be allowed as long as she were not sexually active. I think, similarly, that young girls are allowed to take them to regulate their periods, help acne, etc etc (whatever else they do), but if they become sexually active (i.e. maried, hopefully) they are to stop taking them.
 
While they may indeed protect against ovarian cancer, does that effect outweigh the other health risks not just cancer, (I believe the article dealt with that) but clots, strokes etc?
 
I think a similar question was asked and answered on the “Ask an Apologist” forum a few days ago. You might want to have a look, it may help.
 
belgianwaffles9 said:
I think it would be allowed as long as she were not sexually active. I think, similarly, that young girls are allowed to take them to regulate their periods, help acne, etc etc (whatever else they do), but if they become sexually active (i.e. maried, hopefully) they are to stop taking them.
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It is not required to remain chaste while taking birth control for medical reasons, assuming that the person in question is married. I have been researching this topic rather extensively as my wife has recently been put on a one-month cycle of birth control pills to treat ovarian cysts which are contributing to infertility. Ironically, in this case, the birth control serves as a fertility treatment rather than a contraceptive (although of course its contraceptive properties are still present). All sources that I have seen say that the Church does not require chastity in this case. If you really look into Catholic doctrine, the Church does not even require celibacy when the woman is taking birth control with the intention of contracepting, as long as the husband states his objection and does his best to get her to stop. In this case chastity is virtuous and noble, but again, not required.
 
Fuerza said:
It is not required to remain chaste while taking birth control for medical reasons, assuming that the person in question is married. I have been researching this topic rather extensively as my wife has recently been put on a one-month cycle of birth control pills to treat ovarian cysts which are contributing to infertility. Ironically, in this case, the birth control serves as a fertility treatment rather than a contraceptive (although of course its contraceptive properties are still present). All sources that I have seen say that the Church does not require chastity in this case. If you really look into Catholic doctrine, the Church does not even require celibacy when the woman is taking birth control with the intention of contracepting, as long as the husband states his objection and does his best to get her to stop. In this case chastity is virtuous and noble, but again, not required.
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This is absolutely wrong. You can conceive a child and The Pill can terminate the pregnancy. I know a woman who went on ABC for some medical reason and her husband asked the priest what he should do. He told him he had to abstain.
“It is not licit, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil so that good may follow therefrom” (Humanae Vitae, 14).

On September 17, 1983, Pope John Paul II told priests in Rome that “contraception is to be judged objectively so profoundly unlawful as never to be, for any reason, justified. To think or to say the contrary is equal to maintaining that, in human life, situations may arise in which it is lawful not to recognize God as God.”
  • quotation from “The Papal Talk of 17 Sept.,” The [Hartford] Catholic Transcript, David Q. Liptak, January 20, 1984
The truth is that there is absolutely no doubt about how the Plan B pills work. Just ask the manufacturer, Barr Pharmaceuticals, whose product insert states: “This product works mainly by preventing ovulation (egg release). It may also prevent fertilization of a released egg (joining of sperm and egg) or attachment of a fertilized egg to the uterus (implantation).” It’s that third item that makes Plan B an abortion-causing drug. The same can be said for every chemical contraceptive.
  • Human Life International President: “Plan A: Keep ‘Plan B’ out of Catholic hospitals”, LifeSiteNews.com,
    October 5, 2007.
I went to a Dr. Chris Kahlenborn talk a few years ago. He has alot of info that the Pill causes breast cancer. Many studies have been done to prove this. Go to One More Soul and there is a wealth of information there about the effects of Artificial Birth Control Pills.

omsoul.com/ThePillandBreastCancer-ChrisKahlenborn.php
 
Who would want to be in a situation where their spouse is obstinately denying the salvific truths of the Church? The one you love more than anyone else is putting her soul in eternal harm’s way. I would be depressed and be making daily spiritual sacrifices for their conversion if I were in that situation.
 
marymonde said:
This is absolutely wrong. You can conceive a child and The Pill can terminate the pregnancy. I know a woman who went on ABC for some medical reason and her husband asked the priest what he should do. He told him he had to abstain.
“It is not licit, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil so that good may follow therefrom” (Humanae Vitae, 14).

On September 17, 1983, Pope John Paul II told priests in Rome that “contraception is to be judged objectively so profoundly unlawful as never to be, for any reason, justified. To think or to say the contrary is equal to maintaining that, in human life, situations may arise in which it is lawful not to recognize God as God.”
  • quotation from “The Papal Talk of 17 Sept.,” The [Hartford] Catholic Transcript, David Q. Liptak, January 20, 1984
The truth is that there is absolutely no doubt about how the Plan B pills work. Just ask the manufacturer, Barr Pharmaceuticals, whose product insert states: “This product works mainly by preventing ovulation (egg release). It may also prevent fertilization of a released egg (joining of sperm and egg) or attachment of a fertilized egg to the uterus (implantation).” It’s that third item that makes Plan B an abortion-causing drug. The same can be said for every chemical contraceptive.
  • Human Life International President: “Plan A: Keep ‘Plan B’ out of Catholic hospitals”, LifeSiteNews.com,
    October 5, 2007.
I went to a Dr. Chris Kahlenborn talk a few years ago. He has alot of info that the Pill causes breast cancer. Many studies have been done to prove this. Go to One More Soul and there is a wealth of information there about the effects of Artificial Birth Control Pills.

omsoul.com/ThePillandBreastCancer-ChrisKahlenborn.php
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I didn’t say that it wasn’t prudent to remain chaste, I simply said it’s not required. Do a search on the “Ask an Apologist” section. You may be surprised at what you find.
 
Fuerza said:
It is not required to remain chaste while taking birth control for medical reasons, assuming that the person in question is married. I have been researching this topic rather extensively as my wife has recently been put on a one-month cycle of birth control pills to treat ovarian cysts which are contributing to infertility. Ironically, in this case, the birth control serves as a fertility treatment rather than a contraceptive (although of course its contraceptive properties are still present). All sources that I have seen say that the Church does not require chastity in this case. If you really look into Catholic doctrine, the Church does not even require celibacy when the woman is taking birth control with the intention of contracepting, as long as the husband states his objection and does his best to get her to stop. In this case chastity is virtuous and noble, but again, not required.
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Chastity is required of everyone at all times and is always virtuous. You are confusing chastity with continence and abstention. Also, celibacy refers to the condition of being unmarried, not to sexual activity. A married person is by definition not celibate. Please get your terms straight before pronouncing on such important matters.

JSA+
 
blackrobe said:
Chastity is required of everyone at all times and is always virtuous. You are confusing chastity with continence and abstention. Also, celibacy refers to the condition of being unmarried, not to sexual activity. A married person is by definition not celibate. Please get your terms straight before pronouncing on such important matters.

JSA+
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blackrobe,

I made no pronouncement. I simply reiterated what I was told by my priest and what I read on the Ask an Apologist forum and the USCCB website.

I slipped up with the use of the term celibacy. It was a mistake. As to chastity, it can be defined as a state of abstinence from sexual relations. Perhaps it was not the most appropriate given the context, but it was not incorrect. Your post was unnecessary.
 
Fuerza said:
blackrobe,

I made no pronouncement. I simply reiterated what I was told by my priest and what I read on the Ask an Apologist forum and the USCCB website.

I slipped up with the use of the term celibacy. It was a mistake. As to chastity, it can be defined as a state of abstinence from sexual relations. Perhaps it was not the most appropriate given the context, but it was not incorrect. Your post was unnecessary.
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Chastity means chastity and abstinence means abstinence and they are not the same thing. Your mistaken use of chastity rendered your observations misleading at best and in this case erroneous.

If you wish to avoid responsibility for your statements by ascribing them to someone else you should provide their exact words or a citation to the source. Otherwise you are merely paraphrasing or making allusions which cannot be confirmed. “I read it on Ask an Apologist” or “I heard it from a priest” are not indicators of authoritative information.

By a careless misuse of words you asserted something contrary to the teaching of the Church. Perhaps my pointing that out was unnecessary but it was appropriate.

JSA+
 
marymonde said:
This is absolutely wrong. You can conceive a child and The Pill can terminate the pregnancy.
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Depends on the mode of action of the “Pill”. If it inhibits ovulation, there is no pregnancy. If it impedes implantation, you are correct. Most hormone suppliments used to treat ovarian conditions inhibit ovulation, either as a primary (contraceptive) or secondary (medical treatment for ovarian disease) function, as I understand their use.

PS Shouldn’t this be moved to Moral Apologetics? 😉
 
In regards to the OP, I would pursue other, less toxic avenues of preventing ovarian cancer than washing my body in a cocktail of chemicals, moral stance notwithstanding.
 
blackrobe said:
Chastity means chastity and abstinence means abstinence and they are not the same thing. Your mistaken use of chastity rendered your observations misleading at best and in this case erroneous.

If you wish to avoid responsibility for your statements by ascribing them to someone else you should provide their exact words or a citation to the source. Otherwise you are merely paraphrasing or making allusions which cannot be confirmed. “I read it on Ask an Apologist” or “I heard it from a priest” are not indicators of authoritative information.

By a careless misuse of words you asserted something contrary to the teaching of the Church. Perhaps my pointing that out was unnecessary but it was appropriate.

JSA+
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blackrobe,

I’m really not in the mood to go back and forth over something so silly. I agree that I misused the word “celibacy”. Again, it was a mistake. The context makes clear what I actually meant. With regard to “chastity”, I agree that in a religious the context the word was probably not the best choice. However, it can be used as a synonym for abstinence. Holding a graduate degree in Linguistics and working as a professional linguist, you tend to learn that words can be used in uncommon ways. My work has resulted in cocaine busts and prevented murders. If I were so “careless” as you say that would certainly not be the case.

Now back to the point. If you subtitue the word “abstinence” then what I said is completely correct assuming that the birth control is non-abortifacient. I feel no need to post sources as what I said is common knowledge and has been discussed extensively on this website. If you doubt me, do a search for yourself.

I do not mean this post to come off as rude, but I can’t stand when people make assumptions after reading one post.
 
Namesake said:
I read a newspaper article today about birth control pills preventing ovarian cancer. I have read about that before and I think it’s probably true. So if a woman wants to take birth control pills to prevent ovarian cancer would Catholics think that was sinful?
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The pill increases the risk for other cancers and illness. So while it might not be sinful it also might not be prudent or wise.

cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/oral-contraceptives
 
marymonde said:
This is absolutely wrong. You can conceive a child and The Pill can terminate the pregnancy. I know a woman who went on ABC for some medical reason and her husband asked the priest what he should do. He told him he had to abstain.
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The pill itself is not contraception. An example would be in prostate problems with men. The pill can reduce the inflammation of the prostate.

You are using the compound progestin and estrogen and labeling it a contraceptive. Contraception is a behavior not a substance.

your quotes (that I left out) used the word contraception . (which is a behavior not a pill)… It is lawful for any woman to use the substance known as birth control pills as a medical treatment. And they do not have to abstain form marital relations.

There is no church document or teaching that says a validly married man and woman living in a faithful relationship cannot have marital relations…NOT A SINGLE DOCUMENT.
The priest gave bad advice. In fact very bad advice to tell a man and woman they cannot participate in the intimate marriage act.
 
Namesake said:
I read a newspaper article today about birth control pills preventing ovarian cancer. I have read about that before and I think it’s probably true. So if a woman wants to take birth control pills to prevent ovarian cancer would Catholics think that was sinful?
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if you are having a problem with mice in your house, you can fix it with an Uzi but it is overkill, and will cause a lot of collateral damage. the side effects of the pill are so grave, and affect the entire system that it should not be recommended on the statistical off-chance that you might avoid one form of cancer, esp. as it is suspected of increasing chance of other cancers, even w/o the grave and proven risk of blood clots, stroke, embolism, and the disorders committant with hormonal disruption.

it is the same consideration as using the pill for other off label uses ie. to regulate periods and periodic symptoms, and does not address the underlying causes and prevention of cancer, or of the other conditions.

all that being said, using the BC pill for a specific therapy or treatment is not sinful as long as any side effect that could be objectively sinful is not intended. but the patient has the obligation to inform himself of side effects and make a prudential judgement accordingly. doctors have been warning us since the pill was introduced in th 60s, and with each of its successive reformulations and reincarnations, of the evil side effects and have been proven right. you play you pay

why is this discussion on the wrong forum?
 
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