Birth Control Rule Clarified

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The Obama administration announced a final rule Friday afternoon dealing with the controversial issue of how the healthcare reform law would deal with birth control coverage of students at religious universities. Under Friday’s final rule, religious colleges and universities that object to contraception will not be required to pay, arrange or refer for contraceptive coverage for their students, according to the HHS. Instead, the students will get such coverage directly from their insurer as a separate policy. In addition, the rule gives all students consumer protections identical to those for the individual market, such as a ban on lifetime limits and coverage of preventive services without cost-sharing.
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One more Catholic Victory in the Birth Control and Young Adult issue!
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When is says, “Instead, the students will get such coverage directly from their insurer as a separate policy”, as opposed to Can get such coverage…It appears that this is not a “separate policy” (something the student can contract for separately) but rather something like a “rider” on an existing policy.

And what about religious institutions etc that are NOT colleges or universities? Where does Catholic Charities, or Catholic Hospitals, or “Catholic Answers”, for instance, fall in this matter.

Sounds like another semantic shell game to me.

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James
 
Kara,

It would be nice if it were a victory, and your optimism is refreshing, but it seems that this is another example of the way the administration is twisting the issue. As in the original question, the response of the administration is “ok, we won’t force ‘you’ to provide the coverage and pay for it: we’ll just force your insurer to provide and pay”! In other words, the moral objection is completely ignored, and responded to as if the issue were simply financial.

Worse yet, it doesn’t really get rid of the financial implications: if the insurer is the one who is paying for the coverage, do you expect them to simply open their wallet and absorb the costs? Or isn’t it more reasonable to think that they’ll simply raise premiums, so that the institution ends up paying for it (indirectly) in the end, anyway?

Blessings,

G.
 
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So basically they lied to the Federal Court in their brief saying that coverage to students wasn’t covered under ObamaCare.
Neither the preventive services coverage regulations nor
any other federal law requires plaintiff to provide health insurance to its students – much less health insurance that covers contraceptive services. The preventive services coverage
regulations only apply to “group health plan” and “health insurance issuer.”
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Right. These organizations will be self-insured until Obamacare gets going and their premiums go through the roof. This is a total misdirect.
 
Can a Knight of Columbus tell me where they fall in this? Don’t they provide certain insurance policies? Do they provide health insurance or just life insurance???

Because if they provide health insurance, or there are other Catholic Insurance providers out there… then what about them? Their consciences will still be violated.
 
karaleigh said:
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One more Catholic Victory in the Birth Control and Young Adult issue!
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MedPage Today released this only a few minutes ago. The lead post to this thread must have been an early release. To me this is something postive for religious universities.

HHS Addresses Birth Control Coverage at Colleges
Under Friday’s final rule, religious colleges and universities that object to contraception will not be required to pay, arrange or refer for contraceptive coverage for their students, just as they will not have to do for employees, according to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Instead, the students will get such coverage directly from their insurer as a separate policy
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karaleigh said:
MedPage Today released this only a few minutes ago. The lead post to this thread must have been an early release. To me this is something postive for religious universities.
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The heart of the problem is that if a college/university is self-insured they’re paying for it directly. If they participate in an insurance plan then while they don’t pay for it directly the cost is most definitely rolled into their premium.
 
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration took another step on Friday to enforce a federal mandate for health insurance coverage of contraceptives, announcing how the new requirement would apply to the many Roman Catholic hospitals, universities and social service agencies that insure themselves.

In such cases, the administration said, female employees and students will still have access to free coverage of contraceptives.

The coverage will be provided by the companies that review and pay claims — “third-party administrators” — or by “some other independent entity,” it said.

Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, said the government would guarantee women access to contraceptives “while accommodating religious liberty interests.”

nytimes.com/2012/03/17/health/policy/obama-administration-says-birth-control-mandate-applies-to-religious-groups-that-insure-themselves.html?_r=2
Additional Sources:
catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=13713

washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/white-house-proposal-gives-religious-groups-more-say-in-birth-control-mandate/2012/03/19/gIQA3cMbNS_story.html

lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-obama-admin-widens-abortifacient-birth-control-mandate-to-college
 
I sincerely hope and pray that this whole birth control mandate is declared unconstitutional. It just absolutely sickens me that Obama is willing to eliminate some of our freedoms just so he can further his own liberal agenda and get all nice and cozy with Planned Parenthood! :(:mad:
 
If he was smart, Obama would just give the full exemption, and then either have a separate, government-funded coverage, or allow insurance companies to sell such additional coverage directly to individuals. As long as you have the religious institutions involved in offering such coverage, even if they don’t directly pay for it, then you are still causing a problem of religious conscience.

Disclaimer: I’m not in favor of above proposed solutions…just saying it would be the smart way to go for Obama and all of the liberals who support him, Catholic or otherwise…

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I sincerely hope and pray that this whole birth control mandate is declared unconstitutional. It just absolutely sickens me that Obama is willing to eliminate some of our freedoms just so he can further his own liberal agenda and get all nice and cozy with Planned Parenthood! :(:mad:
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What’s scary is the precedent this sets for future Presidents.
 
lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-obama-admin-widens-abortifacient-birth-control-mandate-to-college
In a move that is likely to reignite the ire of religious leaders, late Friday afternoon the Obama administration announced a proposal that would require universities, including religious universities, to provide contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs to their students, as well as their employees, without a co-pay. This appears to significantly widen the originally-announced HHS mandate, which had only applied to employees.
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The White House released the 32-page proposal late Friday afternoon. It outlines three different options to ensure that the health plans for employees and students of religious organizations cover birth control, including abortifacient drugs, and sterilizations, without co-pay.
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The proposal, particularly the widening of the mandate to cover students, was met with simultaneous statements of support from members of the abortion lobby.
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Ever since Adam and Eve thought they could become like God, man has been interupting the process of creation. That is the true horor of birth control. What God has joined together, man must not seperate. So is this a case of religious persecution, or is man once again screwing with God and his perfection?:confused:

May almighty God have mercy on us and forgive us of all our sins!
 
This twisty maze of policies and exceptions is too complicated for me to understand, and I have learned that it is too dangerous to allow any politician tell me what it is supposed to mean. I guess I will just withhold judgement until the bishops review it again.
 
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