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Lone Catholic:
Just one point I wanted to make here to all of us mommies. I know we like to share our battle stories of birth. But I don’t think it is very helpful to ladies who have not had children yet to tell how horrible childbirth is, and in a way, I think it is not very pro-life. Think about it. Are you encouraging people to be open to life and have children when you tell them it is the worst pain they can imagine, etc.? Believe me, I’ve been guilty of it as well. Now I try to only say that yes it hurts, but everyone is different, but whatever pain you go through will be totally worth it when you see your child’s face. I remember before I had children hearing all these horrible stories and I thought anyone who would try to go all natural would be just crazy, and for my first birth, I didn’t even consider the option. I did aLOT of research before my 2nd birth and found that natural (for me) was the way to go. Another thing to remember, and I think someone else pointed this out–epidurals or pain medication does NOT equal a pain-free birth! To me, the pain in a natural birth was easier to deal with than the pain involved with IVs, epidural needs, novocaine shots for sewing up afterwards (not necessary for most natural births), not to mention most people are half way through labor by the time they get the epidural anyway, so you DO have to go through some labor without it!
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Although I see your point, I absolutely hate it when a woman who hasn’t had a baby, who’s not even been pregnant, comes with all these ‘It’ll all be fine, just offer it up, my birthing book says…’ statements …I was a bit like that, I guess…and only because nobody told me that yes, labour is hard, yes things go wrong, yes, you may want pain relief. I totally underestimated it… I really think that type of ‘rose-tinted spectacles’ stuff isn’t very helpful, and for the same reason I get really annoyed when a man says something to that effect. Now, when I tell someone (if asked) about my births, I hear this happens a lot…why then not talk about it?! I think we need to be informed, and just reading all the wonderful things is not being informed, it’s being biased. Anyway, childbirth is not ‘horrible’, it’s a wonderful miracle! But pain is easier to bear if you know roughly what’s coming, so you can prepare yourself for it! And yes, some women are very lucky: my mom always said she barely felt the contractions and I just slided out. So , either she had a very high pain thresh-hold or she was a very lucky woman 😃

Anna x
 
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anna1978:
Although I see your point, I absolutely hate it when a woman who hasn’t had a baby, who’s not even been pregnant, comes with all these ‘It’ll all be fine, just offer it up, my birthing book says…’ statements …I was a bit like that, I guess…and only because nobody told me that yes, labour is hard, yes things go wrong, yes, you may want pain relief. I totally underestimated it… I really think that type of ‘rose-tinted spectacles’ stuff isn’t very helpful, and for the same reason I get really annoyed when a man says something to that effect. Now, when I tell someone (if asked) about my births, I hear this happens a lot…why then not talk about it?! I think we need to be informed, and just reading all the wonderful things is not being informed, it’s being biased. Anyway, childbirth is not ‘horrible’, it’s a wonderful miracle! But pain is easier to bear if you know roughly what’s coming, so you can prepare yourself for it! And yes, some women are very lucky: my mom always said she barely felt the contractions and I just slided out. So , either she had a very high pain thresh-hold or she was a very lucky woman 😃

Anna x
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I totally agree with you. And I don’t think “rose-tinted spectacles” is helpful at all. That’s not really what I was insinuating. I think one should be informed–in fact, my ability to go natural with the rest of my babies hinged on being prepared. I studied that Bradley book like I had a final exam coming! When the time came, I was ready! Oh, and I am not one of those who sets herself as being oh-so-righteous by having a natural childbirth–I have to admit that I choose natural childbirth first and foremost for myself! I have had both experiences and I prefer the natural approach! So maybe I’m the sinner, hahaha. And yeah… men should stay away from this subject completely! It’s a no-win situation!
 
And OH YEAH… No one should tell anyone else to offer something up!! IMO
 
Lone Catholic:
I totally agree with you. And I don’t think “rose-tinted spectacles” is helpful at all. That’s not really what I was insinuating. I think one should be informed–in fact, my ability to go natural with the rest of my babies hinged on being prepared. I studied that Bradley book like I had a final exam coming! When the time came, I was ready! Oh, and I am not one of those who sets herself as being oh-so-righteous by having a natural childbirth–I have to admit that I choose natural childbirth first and foremost for myself! I have had both experiences and I prefer the natural approach! So maybe I’m the sinner, hahaha. And yeah… men should stay away from this subject completely! It’s a no-win situation!
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If you CAN do a natural birth, I think that’s GREAT…but you won’t know until you’re in labour, really…Which is why preparedness and knowledge is very important, but flexibility and the ability to adapt to the situation is too 😃

Anna x
 
Here is something interesting. My grandma was born in 1919. Her mother already had several children of her own and was the local midwife.(I am just trying to give an idea of time period with these dates) My grandmother’s grandmother was also a midwife.

My grandmother told me that her mother and other midwives had a saying that when a woman went into labor she was 'a hair’s breadth away from death.":eek:

Regardless of whether you use pain medicine or not, aren’t we just very blessed to live in a time period when death is not a major worry for most mothers?
 
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deb1:
Regardless of whether you use pain medicine or not, aren’t we just very blessed to live in a time period when death is not a major worry for most mothers?
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And where, if you come that hair’s breath close to it…there is the medical skill to pull you back from it!Absolutely 👍

Anna x
 
Lone Catholic:
Just one point I wanted to make here to all of us mommies. I know we like to share our battle stories of birth. But I don’t think it is very helpful to ladies who have not had children yet to tell how horrible childbirth is, and in a way, I think it is not very pro-life. Think about it. Are you encouraging people to be open to life and have children when you tell them it is the worst pain they can imagine, etc.? Believe me, I’ve been guilty of it as well. Now I try to only say that yes it hurts, but everyone is different, but whatever pain you go through will be totally worth it when you see your child’s face. I remember before I had children hearing all these horrible stories and I thought anyone who would try to go all natural would be just crazy, and for my first birth, I didn’t even consider the option. I did aLOT of research before my 2nd birth and found that natural (for me) was the way to go. Another thing to remember, and I think someone else pointed this out–epidurals or pain medication does NOT equal a pain-free birth! To me, the pain in a natural birth was easier to deal with than the pain involved with IVs, epidural needs, novocaine shots for sewing up afterwards (not necessary for most natural births), not to mention most people are half way through labor by the time they get the epidural anyway, so you DO have to go through some labor without it!
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I"m not a mother, so I really appriciate your statement. it seems to me that when ever I say anything to my friends about my desier to have a midwife, they feel it is their goal do to anything and everything to talk me out of it. they discuss the horrable pain they experiance and the agony and sometimes, it scares the you know what out of me and I don’t appriciate it! you are right, it’s not very pro-life to be so negative about it all the time. as I said earlier, my sister is having her labor induced and an epadural in april, do I aggree with it? no. but I love her and havn’t said ditly to her about it because heis her business and all I care about is the fact that I"m going to have a new niece or nephiew this spring! but when it comes time for me to have a child of my own (if it be the Lord’s will) I would love it if my loved ones would extend me the same courticy of not telling me what to do based on their experiances!

I guess this is such a touchy subject for us ladies becuase child bearing is so personal and is at the very chore of our femonin nature. I guess I Realy didn’t think about that until now and when someone attacks our way of having a child, or how we deal with it, we see it as an attack of how God made us and on our very gender.
 
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vluvski:
I have yet to hear any woman claim childbirth was a breeze due to using birth drugs.
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It was for me…
well, maybe it was because I had general anesthesia. 😃
No matter what, childbirth was an incredible experience.
 
SueKrum, here in Britain EVERYBODY has a midwife assisting at the birth, you get one assigned by your GP the moment you find out you’re pregnant. Mine happens to be called Sue also, she’s 62 and has delivered or helped deliver half the village in the past 35 years! She’s fantastic! But one thing she told me was ‘never decide on one particular type of birth until you’re in labour, never say never to anything…because you just don’t know how your body copes with labour until it happens, even we (the midwifes and OB/GYNs) don’t…so keep an open mind!’ And I think that is the key! An open mind and the willingness to be flexible and adapt to the situation. I’d never ‘attack’ anyone for wanting a natural birth-one of my best friends gave birth to her 3rd in the bath-tub yesterday without ANY form of pain-relief, good for her! Her body copes well with labour, and she loved the whole experience. But, she still made sure there was a ‘Plan B’ incase of complications, okay the first 2 births went fine-but you never know. What annoys me is, women who have never given birth but already ‘know’ what they want…Trust me, until you actually go into labour, you can read all the books in the world and talk to every mother you know…it won’t be the same as actually doing it yourself! And…I don’t know your sister, but she may have very good reasons for giving birth the way she will, that she may not be sharing with the family. When I had had my c-section I didn’t tell anybody WHY…and even when I had my first one, which was a near-death experience for both me and baby, I didn’t go into detail with anybody apart from my husband (who was there) and my midwife and OB/GYN…A lot of people probably thought it was a ‘choice’ second time round to have a c-section, it wasn’t, but I left it at that. Not pro-life to talk about birth-experiences? I’m not sure…I believe that if someone is going to have a baby, they’re going to have that baby anyway-no matter what they’re told and no matter what the risks. I know a few women who suffered severe depression after giving birth ‘because nobody told them what it’d be like’, and they were so disappointed they didn’t have the perfect, empowering, pain-relief free experience they had pictured in their mind…They all said ‘If only I had been told it may not go how I wanted it’. That’s why my midwife, for the past 15 years holds classes for every pregnant woman in the village (and that’s a lot, because 80% is under 35 here!), and it includes ANYTHING from miscarriage, stillbirth, c-section, forceps, ventouse, uterine rupture, hysterectomy to the perfect birth. And most women find it very helpful, and it doesn’t put them off having more children. Infact, most women here have 4 or 5 children, and want more. So, I don’t think telling it like it is is ‘anti-life’…my midwife is proving that 'to be forewarned is to be fore-armed. She assists at homebirths, hospital-births, even holds your hand when you’re in for a c-section. But in 35 years she has seen so much, like what one lady here said about her grandmother who was a midwife: we’ve made birth this ‘perfect experience’ where my Sue can still remember the days when the risks to mother and baby were very, very real indeed.

Anna x
 
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anna1978:
one lady here said about her grandmother who was a midwife: we’ve made birth this ‘perfect experience’ where my Sue can still remember the days when the risks to mother and baby were very, very real indeed.

Anna x
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It was my great grandmother and my great great grandmother. I got the stories second hand from my grandma.
 
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