Birth of Christ/ young Christ in temple

[john78]

I remember a homily from this past year or so on the birth of Christ, the three wise men, king herod, an a mix of the old testament. Hang with me while i try to put this together…

So basically in the old testament, the Jewish people were waiting for the messiah ( Christ ), that they had all these signs to look for His coming into the world… yet at his birth, no one shows up except for the three wise men an the shepherds. The shepherds were told my the angel where to go, yet where did the three wise men get their information from ? If the three wise men were reading the same information or scriptures that the Jewish people had at the time, an for what ever reason followed the star; why then wouldn’t the Jewish people at that time at least be curious enough to want to go an see what is going on…? King Herod was at least threatened enough to want to kill the infant Christ before he had a chance to do anything.

I am a bit lost on why there wouldn’t be some at the very least big curiosity of what was going on, an why history did not record the people at that time going to at least see the infant Christ…

If one has all these prophecies of a messiah to come, to me I would at least want to check things out instead of sitting at home an ignoring it or just scoffing it off… or perhaps for what ever reason the birth of Christ was only revealed to the three wise men in what ever fashion it was, an to the shepherds an king herod for a specific reason… ?

Next I had remembered the Scripture of Christ leaving Mary an Joseph when they were traveling an Christ ended up n the temple talking to the pharises an elders, there was a dialogue between everyone an scripture says everyone was amazed by what was being said an responded from the young Child.

Well my next thought is, it would make sense to me that at some point in this dialogue that the pharises/elders who ever these adults were, would have asked what His name is… and would would want to know more about Him, where He came from etc… so now at an early age, Christs’ " reputation " has already begun… So it would seem to me that these same people who talked to Christ at such an early age, would then in turn remember Him as he began his adult ministry, or i guess that is my question,

would it make sense that these people would have remembered the young Christ from that point in time an have seen Him in His adult ministry an there for come to believe ?

Or perhaps they were just so old that they died before His adult ministry ever happened an there fore could not testify to that point in time…

It would seem to me that if anyone lived from that moment in time to see Him as an adult would have mentioned it an made a record of it to some degree, some where…

probably no real answer to that…

anyhow , just some thoughts, hopefully this is in the right section of the forum.

 

[jilly4ski]

Something to keep in mind is that there were many people claiming to be the messiah in the time period right before and even after Jesus’ public ministry. So even if they were paying attention to the signs they wouldn’t necessarily known to whom the signs were pointing. The Jews were also going through some rough times, occupied, governed and to a certain extent persecuted by the Romans, perhaps they were not paying much attention.

 

[AndyF]

Some aspects of Jesus’s identity were kept from people altogether, and some were uncertain, and others were given the gift of realizing what was occurring before their eyes. Such is the importance of this three decades in the era of these times.

The events that played out were steered in ways that involved keeping the demons restrained. In the event of miracles that were happening, the demons were forbidden to speak. Other individuals were so well disposed they were given first hand knowledge. For instance John the Baptist, and Simeon (Luke 2,25). The Pharisees did not see it because their hearts were hardened and God would not let them realize it. Thomas was uncertain for a long while.

It depended on how God felt some were worthy of knowing. To some their disposition would mean the loss of experiencing the greatest event in the life of mankind.

Of all people who were given a revelation, the centurion in charge of the crucifixion realized that for sure Jesus was the Messiah.