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A really good friend of mine is Bisexual. She knows I’m catholic and where I stand on this. After explaining the Catholic position, she accepted that I disagree with her, since I, in her words “am not a jerk about it”. It really doesn’t interfere with our friendship. Except that she keeps sending me these pictures and videos and stuff about some of the more radical pro-marraige people, you know the type. the guys with the “God hates you signs” and while I express my disgust at them, and say that it’s wrong to talk about people, any people that way. She has lately taken it further, showing me pretty much anything that goes against gay marriage. It puts me in an awkward position, since I’m not sure how I’m supposed to respond (a recent example had her saying that she sees the pro-marriage protesters as being like the pro-segregation protestors during the 60’s). On one hand I don’t agree with how some people are being treated, but on the other I’m not about to back down on what I believe.

So I guess my question is, how do I respond?
 
Gricken said:
A really good friend of mine is Bisexual. She knows I’m catholic and where I stand on this. After explaining the Catholic position, she accepted that I disagree with her, since I, in her words “am not a jerk about it”. It really doesn’t interfere with our friendship. Except that she keeps sending me these pictures and videos and stuff about some of the more radical pro-marraige people, you know the type. the guys with the “God hates you signs” and while I express my disgust at them, and say that it’s wrong to talk about people, any people that way. She has lately taken it further, showing me pretty much anything that goes against gay marriage. It puts me in an awkward position, since I’m not sure how I’m supposed to respond (a recent example had her saying that she sees the pro-marriage protesters as being like the pro-segregation protestors during the 60’s). On one hand I don’t agree with how some people are being treated, but on the other I’m not about to back down on what I believe.

So I guess my question is, how do I respond?
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There are probably about 40,000 Christian denominations and only one is like the “Westboro Baptists”, the number of whom can be counted on one or two hands. I personally believe that they are a fake Christian group organized for the purpose of making Christians look bad so that they can be used as the poster for the “gay” agenda. There is also something called Landover Baptist Church which isn’t a real Baptist congregation but is in reality a fake Christian website invented by atheists to make Christians look bad. I think WBC is the same as this. WBC also get their money the same way that “gay” activists do which is to go out of their way to offend someone, get a reaction from them, and then sue them. It’s the same pattern. That’s why I believe that, like the “Landover Baptists” the WBC is likely a fake Christian group that secretly works to promote the “gay” agenda by promoting a false public perception that Christians are a bunch of bigots who hate “gays”. I also think that’s why WBC activity is tolerated and protected by the ACLU who normally go after Christians for little things like displaying a cross in public.
 
Well, as far as the pro-marriage is pro segregation standpoint goes, that one is easy to respond to: First off, remind her that racism is forbidden by the Catholic Church, second point out that, while there are obvious skin-tone differences between races, these differences are ultimately superficial as the maritial act can still be completed and be ordered towards life regardless of race, whereas the homosexual act can not, thus the difference is between a protest of superficial differences on one act, and inherent differences between two acts, making it an invalid comparison.

Do you respect her enough to not barrage her with the Church’s standpoint? Ask her to show you the same respect. If not, start responding and expressing these feelings of awkwardness about it.
 
Aeden said:
Well, as far as the pro-marriage is pro segregation standpoint goes, that one is easy to respond to: First off, remind her that racism is forbidden by the Catholic Church, second point out that, while there are obvious skin-tone differences between races, these differences are ultimately superficial as the maritial act can still be completed and be ordered towards life regardless of race, whereas the homosexual act can not, thus the difference is between a protest of superficial differences on one act, and inherent differences between two acts, making it an invalid comparison.

Do you respect her enough to not barrage her with the Church’s standpoint? Ask her to show you the same respect. If not, start responding and expressing these feelings of awkwardness about it.
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Thank you. That sounds like a good idea.
 
Gricken said:
A really good friend of mine is Bisexual. She knows I’m catholic and where I stand on this. After explaining the Catholic position, she accepted that I disagree with her, since I, in her words “am not a jerk about it”. It really doesn’t interfere with our friendship. Except that she keeps sending me these pictures and videos and stuff about some of the more radical pro-marraige people, you know the type. the guys with the “God hates you signs” and while I express my disgust at them, and say that it’s wrong to talk about people, any people that way. She has lately taken it further, showing me pretty much anything that goes against gay marriage. It puts me in an awkward position, since I’m not sure how I’m supposed to respond (a recent example had her saying that she sees the pro-marriage protesters as being like the pro-segregation protestors during the 60’s). On one hand I don’t agree with how some people are being treated, but on the other I’m not about to back down on what I believe.

So I guess my question is, how do I respond?
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You need to draw the line here and tell her that she needs to stop sending you pictures and videos. You made it clear to her that you accept her as a friend even though you do not agree with the life style. She needs to show the same respect towards you.
 
Aeden said:
Well, as far as the pro-marriage is pro segregation standpoint goes, that one is easy to respond to: First off, remind her that racism is forbidden by the Catholic Church, second point out that, while there are obvious skin-tone differences between races, these differences are ultimately superficial as the maritial act can still be completed and be ordered towards life regardless of race, whereas the homosexual act can not, thus the difference is between a protest of superficial differences on one act, and inherent differences between two acts, making it an invalid comparison.

Do you respect her enough to not barrage her with the Church’s standpoint? Ask her to show you the same respect. If not, start responding and expressing these feelings of awkwardness about it.
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Continuing this though, no thinkers have advocated for SSM in the past. Also, interracial marriage was already accepted. Society just took a step back when we decided not to allow it. No cultures in the past have had SSM
 
If this person is a “really good friend,” I wonder how your enemies would act!
 
Any time you feel you are in an awkward position you must take action. If you stay silent you make her think you approve but you don’t. Be a good friend and ask her to limit what she sends to things that are funny, charitable or for information, but the others are not something you feel right about reading. Sometimes it just has to be said, “you are making me uncomfortable,”
 
livingwordunity said:
There are probably about 40,000 Christian denominations and only one is like the “Westboro Baptists”, the number of whom can be counted on one or two hands. I personally believe that they are a fake Christian group organized for the purpose of making Christians look bad so that they can be used as the poster for the “gay” agenda. There is also something called Landover Baptist Church which isn’t a real Baptist congregation but is in reality a fake Christian website invented by atheists to make Christians look bad. I think WBC is the same as this. WBC also get their money the same way that “gay” activists do which is to go out of their way to offend someone, get a reaction from them, and then sue them. It’s the same pattern. That’s why I believe that, like the “Landover Baptists” the WBC is likely a fake Christian group that secretly works to promote the “gay” agenda by promoting a false public perception that Christians are a bunch of bigots who hate “gays”. I also think that’s why WBC activity is tolerated and protected by the ACLU who normally go after Christians for little things like displaying a cross in public.
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Really? You think the WBC is a “fake” group? You don’t know much about Fred Phelps or his history do you? How he was a very well respected civil rights attorney until he slowly lost his mind and got disbarred for some very egregious behavior. You don’t realize that they live on what is essentially a compound in Kansas and that their children are extremely closed off from the outside world. You don’t seem to get that the family members that have defected have been shunned and worse. This is not a fake group, this is a cult that is made up of one family. It’s sad, it’s disgusting, and blaming it’s existence on people who disagree with you is counterproductive and does nothing to further your cause.

And by the way, the ACLU defends Christians often.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
Really? You think the WBC is a “fake” group? You don’t know much about Fred Phelps or his history do you? How he was a very well respected civil rights attorney until he slowly lost his mind and got disbarred for some very egregious behavior. You don’t realize that they live on what is essentially a compound in Kansas and that their children are extremely closed off from the outside world. You don’t seem to get that the family members that have defected have been shunned and worse. This is not a fake group, this is a cult that is made up of one family. It’s sad, it’s disgusting, and blaming it’s existence on people who disagree with you is counterproductive and does nothing to further your cause.

And by the way, the ACLU defends Christians often.
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You entirely ignored the part about the fake group called “Landover Baptist Church” which is a fake Christian website created by atheists with the single goal of making Christians look like ignorant bigots. The fake “Landover Baptist Church” is not unlike WBC. That was my point. The WBC also has a method of making their money that is just like how “gay” activist make theirs which is to go out of their way to offend someone, get a reaction, then sue. Can you give some specific examples of the ACLU protecting Christians (mainstream Christians) religious liberty?
 
livingwordunity said:
You entirely ignored the part about the fake group called “Landover Baptist Church” which is a fake Christian website created by atheists with the single goal of making Christians look like ignorant bigots. The fake “Landover Baptist Church” is not unlike WBC. That was my point. The WBC also has a method of making their money that is just like how “gay” activist make theirs which is to go out of their way to offend someone, get a reaction, then sue.
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Landover is actually a study in Poe’s law, IIRC.
 
livingwordunity said:
What do you recall that from? What is your source?
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A quick google search on “Landover baptist church” and “poe’s law” shows dozens of sites that say much the same thing. You can look yourself, or do you want me to post a few? If yes, how many do you want?
 
Liberals often straw man religious conservatives. On the other hand, conservatives sometimes exaggerate the scope and severity of secular progressivism. It would be really nice if people calmed down and gave each other the benefit of the doubt more often.
 
Havard said:
Liberals often straw man religious conservatives. On the other hand, conservatives sometimes exaggerate the scope and severity of secular progressivism. It would be really nice if people calmed down and gave each other the benefit of the doubt more often.
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Thank you.
 
Gricken said:
A really good friend of mine is Bisexual. She knows I’m catholic and where I stand on this. After explaining the Catholic position, she accepted that I disagree with her, since I, in her words “am not a jerk about it”. It really doesn’t interfere with our friendship. Except that she keeps sending me these pictures and videos and stuff about some of the more radical pro-marraige people, you know the type. the guys with the “God hates you signs” and while I express my disgust at them, and say that it’s wrong to talk about people, any people that way. She has lately taken it further, showing me pretty much anything that goes against gay marriage. It puts me in an awkward position, since I’m not sure how I’m supposed to respond (a recent example had her saying that she sees the pro-marriage protesters as being like the pro-segregation protestors during the 60’s). On one hand I don’t agree with how some people are being treated, but on the other I’m not about to back down on what I believe.

So I guess my question is, how do I respond?
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Point out the section in the Catechism on homosexual persons and that the Catholic belief is that God loves them like everyone else.
 
Gricken said:
A really good friend of mine is Bisexual. She knows I’m catholic and where I stand on this. After explaining the Catholic position, she accepted that I disagree with her, since I, in her words “am not a jerk about it”. It really doesn’t interfere with our friendship. Except that she keeps sending me these pictures and videos and stuff about some of the more radical pro-marraige people, you know the type. the guys with the “God hates you signs” and while I express my disgust at them, and say that it’s wrong to talk about people, any people that way. She has lately taken it further, showing me pretty much anything that goes against gay marriage. It puts me in an awkward position, since I’m not sure how I’m supposed to respond (a recent example had her saying that she sees the pro-marriage protesters as being like the pro-segregation protestors during the 60’s). On one hand I don’t agree with how some people are being treated, but on the other I’m not about to back down on what I believe.

So I guess my question is, how do I respond?
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She’s your friend? Why? Seriously, why befriend someone like that. I’m not saying that one should be disrespectful, but shouldn’t we want friends who lead us to Christ and not away from him?
 
If you are okay because you are not “a jerk about it” why is she sending you all the pictures, etc.? Attempting to change your opinion or pointing out Christians that are not afraid of voicing their opinion? I would not comment on this issue with her any longer, she knows where you stand, that should be the end of it.
 
cargau said:
She’s your friend? Why? Seriously, why befriend someone like that. I’m not saying that one should be disrespectful, but shouldn’t we want friends who lead us to Christ and not away from him?
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Because she’s really nice, we share a lot if interests, have a lot in common, and have known each other for a few years? That’s usually why people are friends.
 
baptismal said:
If you are okay because you are not “a jerk about it” why is she sending you all the pictures, etc.? Attempting to change your opinion or pointing out Christians that are not afraid of voicing their opinion? I would not comment on this issue with her any longer, she knows where you stand, that should be the end of it.
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I agree with this:thumbsup:
 
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