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Bishop Barron to Governor Cuomo claim that “God did not do that”
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Tis_Bearself
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Hooray for Bishop Barron.
Cuomo just lost my vote for all time with that ill-conceived remark. Probably plays well to the atheists of New York City and the media.
Too bad Dolan didn’t have the chutzpah to give him the smackdown instead of it having to come from the opposite coast.
Cuomo just lost my vote for all time with that ill-conceived remark. Probably plays well to the atheists of New York City and the media.
Too bad Dolan didn’t have the chutzpah to give him the smackdown instead of it having to come from the opposite coast.
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poche
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This governor sounds like an unbeliever. I recommend not paying a lot of attention to what he says about religion.
Tis_Bearself
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He’s one of those “raised Catholic” types whose ego seems to have now run away with him.
Also probably gets political mileage out of painting “Christians” as ignorant hicks.
Sad.
Also probably gets political mileage out of painting “Christians” as ignorant hicks.
Sad.
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stpurl
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I had been more impressed with Mr. Cuomo’s secular leadership in the very grim days of his state’s rise and then peak in coronavirus cases where he seemed to have a firm and fair leadership going.
That being said, I think that he misspoke and conveyed poorly an, again secular, view here.
Mr. Cuomo’s state has a fair number of religious people, but also a fair number of non-religious or ‘nones’. The latter group is growing, and has for now a rather disproportionate share in politics and politicking. It is playing the victim card and it is also playing the ‘science’ card.
In the interests of conveying how it is SCIENCE (and no one denies science plays a role, an important one) which needs attention, the idea of faith has been, unfairly and irrationally, portrayed as ‘anti-science’; the whole narrative is on the brave science and the ignorant religious nuts as if no religious person could ever be scientific, and no scientific person could ever be religious. That is pure bilge of course, but for a lot of people, it’s ‘gospel true’. And so Mr. Cuomo, who knows as a person raised Catholic that the average Catholic under age 55 has been raised to be ashamed of his supposedly ‘anti Science’ and ‘hateful’ heritage, and will thus support him rabidly lest they commit the mortal sin of being ‘unkind’, and that as a Catholic the kind ‘grandpa god’ he was raised to believe in will never judge him harshly even if he’s wrong because he was just trying to be kind, will say what the majority of the people want to hear, expect to hear, and will either accept as just deserts for their Catholic badness and anti science, or even if they speak up can be dismissed as cranks, fools, and haters. The strategy has been working for decades now, no reason to think it won’t work again.
That being said, I think that he misspoke and conveyed poorly an, again secular, view here.
Mr. Cuomo’s state has a fair number of religious people, but also a fair number of non-religious or ‘nones’. The latter group is growing, and has for now a rather disproportionate share in politics and politicking. It is playing the victim card and it is also playing the ‘science’ card.
In the interests of conveying how it is SCIENCE (and no one denies science plays a role, an important one) which needs attention, the idea of faith has been, unfairly and irrationally, portrayed as ‘anti-science’; the whole narrative is on the brave science and the ignorant religious nuts as if no religious person could ever be scientific, and no scientific person could ever be religious. That is pure bilge of course, but for a lot of people, it’s ‘gospel true’. And so Mr. Cuomo, who knows as a person raised Catholic that the average Catholic under age 55 has been raised to be ashamed of his supposedly ‘anti Science’ and ‘hateful’ heritage, and will thus support him rabidly lest they commit the mortal sin of being ‘unkind’, and that as a Catholic the kind ‘grandpa god’ he was raised to believe in will never judge him harshly even if he’s wrong because he was just trying to be kind, will say what the majority of the people want to hear, expect to hear, and will either accept as just deserts for their Catholic badness and anti science, or even if they speak up can be dismissed as cranks, fools, and haters. The strategy has been working for decades now, no reason to think it won’t work again.
P
poche
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His father, when he was lieutenant governor cast the deciding vote that brought abortion to New York long before Roe vs Wade.
Tis_Bearself
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I’m not going to hold the sins of the father against the son. Trump’s father wasn’t any prize either.
Besides, these guys can dig plenty big holes for their own selves without me even having to reach whatever their daddies did.
Besides, these guys can dig plenty big holes for their own selves without me even having to reach whatever their daddies did.
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F_Marturana
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No. He was Lt. Governor in 1978. Abortion was legalized in NY in 1970.
Nelson Rockefeller was governor.
Nelson Rockefeller was governor.
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