Bishop calls receiving Communion on the tongue more reverent

[Freshman88]

People should be humble and obey the Church and stop trying to impose their own idea of reverence on others.

A few people agreed with His Excellency, that’s hardly a reason to question anyone’s
A) Humility, B) Obedience

nor is it reason to accuse anyone that has posted so far, of imposing anything on another. Please read through all the posts before you call into question virtues that are as serious as humility and obedience. Your post was truly unfounded.

 

[wow]

Is everything a debate on these forums?

 

[thistle]

A few people agreed with His Excellency, that’s hardly a reason to question anyone’s
A) Humility, B) Obedience

nor is it reason to accuse anyone that has posted so far, of imposing anything on another. Please read through all the posts before you call into question virtues that are as serious as humility and obedience. Your post was truly unfounded.

Anyone who says receiving one way is more reverent than the other should put up or shut up. Show me a Church document that states this. By this I don’t mean the personal opinion of anyone.
If there is no Church document which states this then people should stop pushing the line that one way of receiving is more reverent than the other.

 

[Freshman88]

Anyone who says receiving one way is more reverent than the other should put up or shut up. Show me a Church document that states this. By this I don’t mean the personal opinion of anyone.
If there is no Church document which states this then people should stop pushing the line that one way of receiving is more reverent than the other.

Many express the opinion that there is more reverence in receving on the tongue and so we should put up or shut up?

Let me get this straight… some posters express a mere opinion and you in response attack our obedience and humility and demand that we put or shut up? - nice.
Can’t you just feel the love?

Now try this juicy piece of logic.
We have a choice of either receiving on the tongue or upon the hand. If there is a choice, than it follows that we are allowed to have a preference. What causes one to have a preference? Many things - one posters explained that their dentures causes them to opt for receiving on the hand, another took the same choice because they would want to receive on the tongue if only there was a plate available. Yet another reason for preference could be brought about by devotion since we are expected to receive our Lord as devoutly and intensely as we can - one act incurs more devotion for some more so than the others. Therefore it can only follow that opinion and preference is exactly what determines that moment of choice before we receive the Eucharist. That we express that opinion on this forum by agreeing with a bishop of the Church - means that you can bring into question our obedience and humility?

Tell me, can I draw into question your charity or your understanding?

 

[wow]

I think it’s quite a natural reaction to be offended by irreverent handling of the Host.

Just want to point out Freshman88, it seems to me that you are stating that it’s quite natural to be offended by irreverent handling of the Host because it is received one way or another. I was wondering about humility and charity at this statement which seemed to be an accusation. Please forgive me if I’m wrong.

Like I said, does everything on these forums have to be a debate. It seems some scout the posts looking for a reason to pounce at the chance of an argument not really caring of how their posts are perceived. Some responses seem to be directly aimed at being hurtful which is in itself, non-charitable.

 

[drafdog]

Poor bishop must go into an absolute lather whenever he contemplates the last supper. All those fellows passing a flat bread (pita) around and each tearing off a piece. I would be surprised if the man doesn’t faint at the aspect.

Matthew

 

[MrS]

Poor bishop must go into an absolute lather whenever he contemplates the last supper. All those fellows (BISHOPS) passing a flat bread (pita) around and each tearing off a piece. I would be surprised if the man doesn’t faint at the aspect.

Matthew

 

[planter654]

Many express the opinion that there is more reverence in receving on the tongue and so we should put up or shut up?

Let me get this straight… some posters express a mere opinion and you in response attack our obedience and humility and demand that we put or shut up? - nice.
Can’t you just feel the love?

Now try this juicy piece of logic.
We have a choice of either receiving on the tongue or upon the hand. If there is a choice, than it follows that we are allowed to have a preference. What causes one to have a preference? Many things - one posters explained that their dentures causes them to opt for receiving on the hand, another took the same choice because they would want to receive on the tongue if only there was a plate available. Yet another reason for preference could be brought about by devotion since we are expected to receive our Lord as devoutly and intensely as we can - one act incurs more devotion for some more so than the others. Therefore it can only follow that opinion and preference is exactly what determines that moment of choice before we receive the Eucharist. That we express that opinion on this forum by agreeing with a bishop of the Church - means that you can bring into question our obedience and humility?

Tell me, can I draw into question your charity or your understanding?

Beautifully said and done so with much compassion of others point of views and personal needs. Thank you…God Bless you always.

 

[Walking_Home]

Poor bishop must go into an absolute lather whenever he contemplates the last supper. All those fellows passing a flat bread (pita) around and each tearing off a piece. I would be surprised if the man doesn’t faint at the aspect.

Matthew

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=3370398#post3370398
Jesus didn’t seem to be worried about crumbs when he told the disciples to take and eat.

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Gee --now why doesn’t your response surprise me --Oh yes–it comes from someone who believes the crumbs don’t matter --well----it must send you into an absolute lather – that we as Catholics believe the crumbs are our Lords Body and Blood and do matter.

 

[ProVobis]

“People should be humble and obey the Church and stop trying to impose their own idea of reverence on others.”

Just out of curiosity, how does one become disobedient if either way is allowed?

 

[Brother_John]

“People should be humble and obey the Church and stop trying to impose their own idea of reverence on others.”

Just out of curiosity, how does one become disobedient if either way is allowed?

Ask your favorite traditionalist, they seem to have the answers

 

[puzzleannie]

I travel too, I don’t really understand how that could be. I bend over, stick out my tongue, I pause, the Eucharist is placed on my tongue.

All that needs to be done for perparation is have the Priest tell his EMHC’s that… “EMHC, if a parioshner sticks out his tongue, place the Eucharist upon his tongue”.

There really isn’t much to it.

no there is not much to it, too bad the majority of parishes that we end up in have little or no training for EMHCs on this or any other essential of the job

I can’t bend over w/o the help of a communion rail, I am not a contorionist and should not have to. I am short. If I did bend over and stick out my tongue it would not facilitate reception of holy communion and it would also not be a pretty picture

I would love to be able to receive on the tongue everywhere. It is an offense against Christian charity that I am not when confronted with clueless ministers

 

[Angel_Bradford]

no there is not much to it, too bad the majority of parishes that we end up in have little or no training for EMHCs on this or any other essential of the job

I can’t bend over w/o the help of a communion rail, I am not a contorionist and should not have to. I am short. If I did bend over and stick out my tongue it would not facilitate reception of holy communion and it would also not be a pretty picture

I would love to be able to receive on the tongue everywhere. It is an offense against Christian charity that I am not when confronted with clueless ministers

No disrepect intended; but if you’re short, you wouldn’t bend over to receive Communion, you would lift your chin up.

 

[Freshman88]

Just want to point out Freshman88, it seems to me that you are stating that it’s quite natural to be offended by irreverent handling of the Host because it is received one way or another. I was wondering about humility and charity at this statement which seemed to be an accusation. Please forgive me if I’m wrong.

I’m sorry but I don’t understand what exactly you are objecting to. Someone asked why anyone would care about the way in which another person handles the Eucharist. I pointed out that irreverent handling of the Host will offend many because it is an act of disrespect to our Lord. If I saw anyone mishandle the Eucharist, I would be upset whether or not it was done intentionally or accidentally - interior disposition is irrelevant, a disrespectful act is a disrespectful act and if that person was unaware of what they’ve done then they need to be taught with charity and hopefully by a person in authority (priest).

Some responses seem to be directly aimed at being hurtful which is in itself, non-charitable.

its just the nature of any argument - but I’m sure given the chance, when we reflect on what’s said, we’re sorry. At the end of the day, its through minor discourses like this that we can learn to contain our feelings.
I do apologize for facetious remarks on EMHC training.

 

[Freshman88]

Ask your favorite traditionalist, they seem to have the answers

Every traditionalist I know in person would say that they would prefer if everyone received on the tongue, but there is no wrong in receiving on the hand given current Church practice. Traditionalist are individuals with individual opinions - thus your remarks are a baseless attack

 

[Freshman88]

Poor bishop must go into an absolute lather whenever he contemplates the last supper. All those fellows passing a flat bread (pita) around and each tearing off a piece. I would be surprised if the man doesn’t faint at the aspect.
Matthew

They were right in front of Christ, they had seen Him conduct miracles right in front of them. More importantly they experienced fellowship with the Son of Man, God incarnate.

We, 2000 years later, do not have that luxury. Thus the Church had put in place such devotional acts to help us realize what was going on. The mass isn’t any ordinary supper and the disciples knew that - for us it’s a little bit harder to know this. In order to help us realize this men much wiser then you or I put into place these practices so that we could realize this. If I pass someone a pita, its an act I might do just sitting around with a couple buds while watching the game. I don’t recall however, the last time that I went on my knees, heard my friend say a prayer in latin and place a piece of bread upon my tongue. I use this example to make my point. - The uniqueness of the reception of the Eucharist draws attention to it and this helps us to realize how important it is, thus I think its important to keep reception of the Eucharist as far from an ordinary meal as possible. I’m not passing a pita to my friend, I’m entering into communion with God and His Church.

I grew up Catholic, went to mass every Sunday of my life. I was never taught the Real Presence. Yet, I realized that this was something special for the first time after 18 years of receiving the Eucharist when I went to a Divine Liturgy. It dawned on me for the frist time in my life just how important the Eucharist is - and this happened when I received it from a golden spoon by a man dressed in Golden garments before the most beautiful iconostasis I had ever seen. It didn’t just make me pause, it made me cry. Without knowing the Real Presence, for the first time in my life I had realized that hey - this just isn’t an hour of hearing a sermon and bible reading. Sad really that that’s how casual the Eucharist was at my home parish.

You seem to be suggesting that discarding centuries of tradition put into place and upheld by pious and wise men of the Church is a good idea. Oh well, I guess we know better

 

[Brother_John]

Every traditionalist I know in person would say that they would prefer if everyone received on the tongue, but there is no wrong in receiving on the hand given current Church practice. Traditionalist are individuals with individual opinions - thus your remarks are a baseless attack

In what way was my post an “attack” on anyone?

 

[thistle]

“People should be humble and obey the Church and stop trying to impose their own idea of reverence on others.”

**Just out of curiosity, how does one become disobedient if either way is allowed?/**QUOTE]

The Church allows us to receive in two ways. By stating one way is more reverent than the other you are saying or implying the Church is wrong in allowing two ways to receive.

 

[Freshman88]

In what way was my post an “attack” on anyone?

Then perhaps you should expand on your post - I read it as implying that traditionalists claim that receiving on the tongue is the only proper way to receive the Eucharist - which couldn’t be further from the truth because a true Traditionalist position agrees with the Church.

 

[Freshman88]

By stating one way is more reverent than the other you are saying or implying the Church is wrong in allowing two ways to receive.

That is completely false. I’ll refer you to my previous post addressed to you.