Bishop Morlino criticized over plan to bring in conservative priests

[angelic06]

AWSOME!!!

There is no need for girls to be altar servers. Serving at the altar of God is supposed to be one means of fostering vocations to the Priesthood of Christ…as Christ does not call females into his Priesthood, it is pointless for them to serve at the altar.

There is no need at any time for ANYONE but the Priest to serve the communion.

Every single Latin Rite Mass on earth should be said in Latin. There is no reason for it to not be…we are the LATIN Church. If you want the Mass in English, I hear England has a national Church that is bleeding members where the Mass is said in English.

God bless Bishops like this!

Latin Masses are good for unifying the Church, yes, as well as expressing the awesome mystery of our Lord. But we don’t need to denigrade (sp?) vernacular ones in the process, which can bring many souls to God if reverently said. And for the record, while I’m sure you are referring to the Anglican Church of England, I hear that Latin Catholic Churches in England which celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass in English do a pretty reverent job of doing it. That being said, the last part of my paragraph is off topic—I just had to come to the defense of the vernacular Mass before any other comments of this sort come. I will now return you to the topic at hand which is that regarding Bishop Morlino.

 

[Brendan]

Did you even read the article? He held a meeting to dialogue with people. If he didn’t want to talk about it, he wouldn’t have held a meeting, now would he?

If you read the article it said that he held the meeting to instruct the people to get to know the new priests and to give them a chance.

But I suppose that is beyond a ‘progressive’ Catholics ability to do…

 

[MarkThompson]

If you read the article it said that he held the meeting to instruct the people to get to know the new priests and to give them a chance.

But I suppose that is beyond a ‘progressive’ Catholics ability to do…

I’m not sure what article you were reading, but from the one linked in this thread he was holding a meeting, not giving a speech. I sure hope that people on this board wouldn’t think it’s impermissible to question and disagree with a bishop’s prudential decisions!

 

[ProVobis]

Read this article at WDTPRS.We need more bishops like him!(I really don’t mean the )
host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/article_54cd8b16-7d79-11df-bda4-001cc4c002e0.html

Who assigns these labels on bishops anyway?

The late Cardinal Bernadine set up four Tridentine Masses in the Chicago area soon after the 1988 Ecclesia Dei. And this was the same bishop who was so influential in bringing CITH into the U.S. So go figure.

 

[Brendan]

I’m not sure what article you were reading, but from the one linked in this thread he was holding a meeting, not giving a speech. I sure hope that people on this board wouldn’t think it’s impermissible to question and disagree with a bishop’s prudential decisions!

This is the part that I read

The message from the bishop to parishioners was to get to know the priests and give them a chance to explain why they make the decisions they do, King said.

So are you now saying that a bishop asking the faithful to get to know the priests and give them a chance to explain what they are doing is something that needs to be opposed?

 

[WetCatechumen]

Well, I don’t see any reason that the priests should force the laity to accept the EF Mass if they don’t want to. My personal preference would be a half-Latin half-Vernacular mash up of the EF, a little bit like what my parish does now with the OF.

I’m totally behind those priests doing away with EMHC’s and altar girls. No complaints from me there.

But I personally like having parts of the Mass in the vernacular. I went to a Greek church (Orthodox in communion with other Orthodox ) for a good friend’s chrismation and the Liturgy was great. If I’d been in a Greek church for a year, I’d understand the half of it that was in Greek and could follow along in their . . . Missal/Pew Book or whatever it is. I’d like to see the Latin church do something like that.

 

[wisdomseeker]

Did you even read the article? He held a meeting to dialogue with people. If he didn’t want to talk about it, he wouldn’t have held a meeting, now would he?

that is what happens when you try to explain too much. some people specially now and days, comes to the believe that they are in charge. the laity since VII has been given the impression that they have can do whatever they please in the Church. hecka! they are even calling the Church as their Church. by believing that, the people have the tendency to believe that they are in charge since the Church belongs to them. sad indeed.

 

[ProVobis]

Well, I don’t see any reason that the priests should force the laity to accept the EF Mass if they don’t want to.

Aside from the SSPX, FSSP, ICR parishes, I’d like to know where this happens.

From the comments made on this and the L&S forum, it seems we don’t seem to have enough of the EF. Or enough Latin in the OF, for that matter. We seem to have an overdose of vernacular already.

 

[Seamus_L]

Leaving out the SSPX, there are less than 50 churches in the US that offer the EF daily. So who is it being forced on ?

 

[CatholicLife]

Well, I don’t see any reason that the priests should force the laity to accept the EF Mass if they don’t want to.

Just like they made people learn the Novus Ordo?

 

[Ockham]

Good point. The Novus Ordo was forced upon us, little warning and no option to continue attending the TLM.

 

[WetCatechumen]

Aside from the SSPX, FSSP, ICR parishes, I’d like to know where this happens.

From the comments made on this and the L&S forum, it seems we don’t seem to have enough of the EF. Or enough Latin in the OF, for that matter. We seem to have an overdose of vernacular already.

Well, at those parishes, clearly the laity want the EF. Now as for these priests, one of the things listed in the article was that they started celebrating “Mass only in Latin”, as if it were one of the parishioners’ complaints, but it did not specify. I don’t think the priests should force the EF on a parish that is not desiring it. Now, if there is a community at the parish that desires it, certainly they should have it - even if some busybodies in the parish want all the Masses to be in the vernacular.

As for the Mass of Paul VI being forced upon the church - well, that cannot be helped. But just because it was forced upon us does not mean that we should force the Tridentine Mass on those who wish to retain the Mass of Paul VI

 

[ProVobis]

Now as for these priests, one of the things listed in the article was that they started celebrating “Mass only in Latin”, as if it were one of the parishioners’ complaints, but it did not specify.

Both the EF and the OF were both promulgated in Latin. The intent was that it would be said that way and any priest has the right to say it that way. The vernacular in the OF is only permitted where the bishop sees that it would benefit. But Latin was to remain in the liturgy and Canon Law specifies that all priests be trained in Latin. If you feel this is forced, then take it up with the Pope.