Bishop says Catholics should kneel, receive communion on tongue

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Good article from L’Osservatore Romano. Maybe we can bring this Bishop to the U.S.! Here is a quote (but the whole article is good):

“The awareness of the greatness of the eucharistic mystery is demonstrated in a special way by the manner in which the body of the Lord is distributed and received,” the bishop wrote.

In addition to demonstrating true adoration by kneeling, he said, receiving Communion on the tongue also avoids concerns about people receiving the body of Christ with dirty hands or of losing particles of the Eucharist, concerns that make sense if people truly believe in the sacrament.

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Brennan_Doherty said:
Good article from L’Osservatore Romano. Maybe we can bring this Bishop to the U.S.! Here is a quote (but the whole article is good):

“The awareness of the greatness of the eucharistic mystery is demonstrated in a special way by the manner in which the body of the Lord is distributed and received,” the bishop wrote.

In addition to demonstrating true adoration by kneeling, he said, receiving Communion on the tongue also avoids concerns about people receiving the body of Christ with dirty hands or of losing particles of the Eucharist, concerns that make sense if people truly believe in the sacrament.

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0800122.htm
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There appears to be signs of a return to sanity coming from the hierarchy. Deo gratias.
 
Every man is entitled to his own opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

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drafdog said:
Every man is entitled to his own opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

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Basically kneeling is a pagan custom related to the worship of the king as a god. Judaism and Christianity are covenant religions. The worshipper relates to God via a contract (covenant). How often have you knelt before a person with whom you have a contract? I don’t kneel before my employer or my wife or my mortgage lender. I don’t expect any of them to kneel before me. I don’t need to kneel before God. That’s not how I relate to him.

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And in your case – your words can not be any truer — since you have provided a prime example of that.
 
drafdog said:
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Since you bring up your horrible errors again, I’ll refute them here, too, so that no one falls prey to it.
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belgianwaffles9:
In the Roman Rite, we kneel, because it is the traditional posture in the western world of adoration and worship. We WORSHIP GOD. God IS a King. Jesus is GOD and our KING. Just as you said in your first sentence, KNEELING = WORSHIP. Then, in the last sentence, you said you don’t relate to God this way. The ONLY logical explanation for that is that you don’t worship God.

In the Eastern Rites, they stand because that is THEIR traditional posture of showing respect. We kneel in the West for pretty much the same reasons they stand in the East; there are differences in posture because there are different cultural customs and behavior.

NOWHERE in any of these cusoms is this “its a Contract, so we are all equal” sort of thing that you espouse. Your writing made it seem as if you view yourself to be an equal partener with God in this covenant. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are weak and undeserving, and we show our humility before the awesomeness and majesty that is God. And we do so in the posture that has triditionally shown this attitude in our cultures. In the West, this is kneeling; in the East, this is standing.
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Domine, non sum dignus means something very real to me. If Our Lord walked into a room with you, what? Are you going to stand and say, “Where y’at Jesus?” or will you fall on your knees and say “My Lord and my God!”? I acknowledge your right to adhere to the present custom of standing and receiving in the hand. I’ll stand because I have to. I would far rather kneel. I made my First Communion in 1958 and I have never received in the hand.
 
I was raised in the NO and learned to receive standing and in the hand. When I first found the traditional Mass my reaction was: “finally! This is how I should receive the Body of Christ” It had always seemed that it was a contradiction to be taught that the Mass was this great miracle where Jesus comes to us and then we went up to Communion like we were in a line at Disney World.
 
brotherhrolf said:
Domine, non sum dignus means something very real to me. If Our Lord walked into a room with you, what? Are you going to stand and say, “Where y’at Jesus?” or will you fall on your knees and say “My Lord and my God!”? I acknowledge your right to adhere to the present custom of standing and receiving in the hand. I’ll stand because I have to. I would far rather kneel. I made my First Communion in 1958 and I have never received in the hand.
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Hey Bruh Rolf, where y’at cap? Mardi Gras will soon be upon us and the King Cakes are good.👍 I got the first baby so you know where I’ll be in the morning.🙂

When I went through catechist training they actually told us that we should teach our students to visualize Christ as a friend more than as the savior. The very example you brought up was presented to us and those of us that said we would fall to our knees in worship were derided as being non progressive in our perception of Christ and adhering to a Christology from above model that had been completely de-bunked and was no longer considered acceptable, Christ was to be approached standing as adults on our own two feet, to meet Him as the Apostles, did, as an equal and as a friend.👍

Several of us there objected to this and reminded the instructors, a Master Catechist, a Deacon and a Nun, that when the Apostles approached Christ they called Him Lord or Master, not friend or buddy. Believe it or not, they told us that Master was a poor translation of the Greek and that friend was better and more suited to modern sensibilites as the word Master depicted a servile relationship to Christ.

Pretty good huh?

The sad part is these three instructors have been teachingthis stuff for the past fifteen years or so as a team and have trained hundreds of catechists. Heck maybe thousands, who knows.
 
palmas85 said:
Hey Bruh Rolf, where y’at cap? Mardi Gras will soon be upon us and the King Cakes are good.👍 I got the first baby so you know where I’ll be in the morning.🙂
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Yeah, you right Palmas! Had my first King Cake on Epiphany.

I am reminded of an old hymn we used to sing way back when -

Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All, how should I love Thee as I ought?..Haven’t heard that in years. Yes, I’d fall on my knees and then like Martha and Mary, I’d make Our Lord a good gumbo so he could “pass a good time”. There is a gulf of difference between the two concepts.
 
What about people with knee problems who can’t kneel? Will we look disrespectful? If I kneel down I will not be able to get up. I am an old lady with knee and vision problems. Do I need to show up with a cane or a walker?
 
LaLucia said:
What about people with knee problems who can’t kneel? Will we look disrespectful? If I kneel down I will not be able to get up. I am an old lady with knee and vision problems. Do I need to show up with a cane or a walker?
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Well, i don’t know your specific situation, or how bad your knees are. Heres a few things i can think of.

I’m sure the ushers would be glad to help you kneel, and help you get back up. If there was a real altar rail, one could use that for support.

If going down on one knee is easier than a full kneel, maybe that would be acceptable as the best you can handle.

Perhaps in this instance, a profound bow would be allowed.

Or, tell the ushers that you are unable to kneel, and the priest can bring you the Eucharist at your seat. That is what is done for some eldery and disabled people at my Parish. I love to see it; It shows that no one is exlcuded, and the preist will go to the ends of the earth to serve the needs of every one of his sheep.
 
Thank you for your advise. I am able to walk but not able to kneel. I would need a strong man to pick me up if I kneeled.
 
belgianwaffles9 said:
Or, tell the ushers that you are unable to kneel, and the priest can bring you the Eucharist at your seat. That is what is done for some eldery and disabled people at my Parish. I love to see it; It shows that no one is exlcuded, and the preist will go to the ends of the earth to serve the needs of every one of his sheep.
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This is what is done at my parish as well. I agree with the original concerns about the poster unable to kneel, since I was unable to kneel for a time, following knee surgery. But I agree that this can be easily solved by placing people in the front row, where the priest can give them the Eucharist.
 
I am sure that this bishop is only speaking of Catholics who belong to the Latin Catholic Church, after all, it is a longstanding (no pun intended) Tradition in the Byzantine Churches to receive while standing.

I see nothing wrong with standing and receiving in the hand as long as it is done revently.

But it is nice of this bishop to share his opinion.
 
ByzCath said:
I am sure that this bishop is only speaking of Catholics who belong to the Latin Catholic Church, after all, it is a longstanding (no pun intended) Tradition in the Byzantine Churches to receive while standing.

I see nothing wrong with standing and receiving in the hand as long as it is done revently.

But it is nice of this bishop to share his opinion.
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Yes the bishop was speaking of the Latin rite . Keep something in mind ByzCath—much has been said about the Easterns recovering their own traditions — yet there is a double standard from the Eastern side – when it comes to us Latins recovering ours.
 
LaLucia said:
What about people with knee problems who can’t kneel? Will we look disrespectful? If I kneel down I will not be able to get up. I am an old lady with knee and vision problems. Do I need to show up with a cane or a walker?
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If someone cannot kneel they have never been required to even when I was serving back in the 50’s.

Come on folks get real.
 
palmas85 said:
If someone cannot kneel they have never been required to even when I was serving back in the 50’s.

Come on folks get real.
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How uncaring of you Palmas. I think maybe we should send a request to the USCCB that they absolutely forbid all Catholics from kneeling from now on so as not to offend those who cannot do so. 😉
 
Walking_Home said:
Yes the bishop was speaking of the Latin rite . Keep something in mind ByzCath—much has been said about the Easterns recovering their own traditions — yet there is a double standard from the Eastern side – when it comes to us Latins recovering ours.
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Ah but there is the rub.

Is returning to pre-Vatican II recovering tradition? Especially when something such as reception of Communion in the Hand is something that was done in the early Church?

If we are to pick a date when the Church was “perfect” as to what traditions we are to recover then all needs to be changed to reflect that, yet the Church was never “perfect” in that way.

The reason I brought up that this is only towards Latin Catholics is the choice of words used. It says “Catholics should” which is imprecise language. It implies all Catholics should do this when that is not the case.

My main point though is that this only the bishop’s opinion and many have other opinion which are just as valid as his.
 
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