Bishop Untener To Be Honored

[PiusXIII]

From today’s Saginaw News:

Unity was his legacy

Wednesday, June 08, 2005
BARRIE BARBER
**THE SAGINAW NEWS **

**A group of community leaders wants to memorialize the late Bishop Kenneth E. Untener by dedicating Unity Hall at the The Dow Event Center in his honor. **

**Untener, who died from complications of leukemia at 66 in March 2004, served as bishop of the Catholic Diocese of Saginaw for 24 years. **

**The building would remain named Unity Hall but dedicated to Untener if Saginaw County officials agree. The Event Center would erect a bust and plaque in his honor. **

**“We’ll dedicate it to Ken Untener, not Bishop Ken Untener,” said James Van Tiflin, Saginaw County Vision 2020 chairman and one of nine community leaders backing the plan. **

**“Ken was a very involved citizen in this community as well as being a leader of the Catholic Diocese,” Van Tiflin said. “We all know that he was the Catholic bishop of Saginaw, but we’re attempting to recognize his legacy of leadership as a citizen.” **

**Untener was adept at bringing religious and ethnic factions together, Van Tiflin said. **

**“He was involved in a lot of different aspects of our community,” Van Tiflin said. “I viewed him as a bridge builder, a communicator. It just seemed to us when we talked about it that unity was Ken Untener.” **

**The bishop started the Community Action Committee breakfasts at which community leaders and activists gathered monthly to talk about challenges facing Saginaw. **

**“He just had the ability to bring the people of this community together and sit down and talk about issues,” said Gary L. Shepherd, a United Auto Workers Region I-D international representative and Vision 2020 member. **

**"Often times, when people lost sight of working-class people, it was Bishop Untener there to help me carry the banner. **

**“He understood that many people struggle to make ends meet in today’s society. And often times, community leaders are well-to-do. They don’t struggle to feed their families. Ken never, ever lost sight of those people.” **

**Shepherd listed other traits that endeared Untener to many. **

**“He would listen a lot more than he would speak,” he said. “He would hear all sides, and he was not afraid to take an unpopular stance if he felt it was the right thing to do.” **

**TheDow Event Center Advisory Group and the Saginaw County Board of Commissioners County Services Committee have endorsed dedicating Unity Hall in Untener’s honor. All 15 commissioners will vote on the request this summer. **

**The 10 community leaders who initially pitched the plan will rely on private fund-raising to pay for the bust, said County Controller Marc A. McGill. **

**They are Van Tiflin, Shepherd, Saginaw News Editor Paul Chaffee, community activist Margaret Clark, Saginaw Valley State University President Eric Gilbertson, retired U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. David Hall, Saginaw County Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President Veronica Horn, former Saginaw Mayor Henry G. Marsh, retired business owner Marty Stark and Gene Hamilton, SVSU assistant to the president for government relations. **

**Barrie Barber covers politics and government for The Saginaw News. You may reach him at 776-9725. **

 

[twiztedseraph]

Sorry a bit off topic but whats up with you being named after the schismatic Fr Lucian Pulvermacher (aka Pius XIII of the true catholic church)? Pls tell me its just a joke

 

[PiusXIII]

twiztedseraph:

Sorry a bit off topic but whats up with you being named after the schismatic Fr Lucian Pulvermacher (aka Pius XIII of the true catholic church)? Pls tell me its just a joke

I didn’t name myself after him. I picked the name right before the conclave—hoping the new pope would choose the name Pius.

 

[grotto]

smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_7_7v.gif Call me Ken is going to have a unity hall named after him? Well, that makes sense! The affairs of the world were a high priority with him - you know, labor negotiations, the oppressed, etc. He even sold the Bishop’s residence so he would have travellin’ money and at the same time - hey, keep that location and whats happenin known only to a select few. Some of the proceeds of the real estate sale undoubtedly made their way into the outreached hands of the less fortunate as should be and especially if there was someone present to report it. So, lets get on with the honoring! Maybe somebody can come up with lauding him for all the creative construction done throughout the diocese and staff selection. All those “pastoral assistants/administrators/priestesses” filling in for the lack of ordinations because Ken didn’t want to ordain another priest unless it was a woman! Oh yeah, almost forgot he pointed out that there were way too many masses said other than Sunday. Very innovative if you want to pursue that avenue. A Unity Hall Honoring, WOW!

 

[HagiaSophia]

smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_7_7v.gif Call me Ken is going to have a unity hall named after him? Well, that makes sense! The affairs of the world were a high priority with him - you know, labor negotiations, the oppressed, etc. He even sold the Bishop’s residence so he would have travellin’ money and at the same time - hey, keep that location and whats happenin known only to a select few. Some of the proceeds of the real estate sale undoubtedly made their way into the outreached hands of the less fortunate as should be and especially if there was someone present to report it. So, lets get on with the honoring! Maybe somebody can come up with lauding him for all the creative construction done throughout the diocese and staff selection. All those “pastoral assistants/administrators/priestesses” filling in for the lack of ordinations because Ken didn’t want to ordain another priest unless it was a woman! Oh yeah, almost forgot he pointed out that there were way too many masses said other than Sunday. Very innovative if you want to pursue that avenue. A Unity Hall Honoring, WOW!

Another interesting thread:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=46829&highlight=carlson

 

[PiusXIII]

PiusXIII:

**The 10 community leaders who initially pitched the plan will rely on private fund-raising to pay for the bust, said County Controller Marc A. McGill. **

**They are Van Tiflin, Shepherd, Saginaw News Editor Paul Chaffee, community activist Margaret Clark, Saginaw Valley State University President Eric Gilbertson, retired U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. David Hall, Saginaw County Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President Veronica Horn, former Saginaw Mayor Henry G. Marsh, retired business owner Marty Stark and Gene Hamilton, SVSU assistant to the president for government relations. **

For what it’s worth—I just thought I would mention that I am acquainted with a few of the people mentioned on the list and that the ones that I do know are not Catholic. Just thought it was interesting to point out that the former bishop has such high esteem among so many who are not even Catholic.

 

[grotto]

Pius XIII - Maybe not being Catholic was a vital point in their awarding their “high esteem” - now if they had known better…

 

[frommi]

smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_7_7v.gif Call me Ken is going to have a unity hall named after him? Well, that makes sense! The affairs of the world were a high priority with him - you know, labor negotiations, the oppressed, etc. He even sold the Bishop’s residence so he would have travellin’ money and at the same time - hey, keep that location and whats happenin known only to a select few. Some of the proceeds of the real estate sale undoubtedly made their way into the outreached hands of the less fortunate as should be and especially if there was someone present to report it. So, lets get on with the honoring! Maybe somebody can come up with lauding him for all the creative construction done throughout the diocese and staff selection. All those “pastoral assistants/administrators/priestesses” filling in for the lack of ordinations because Ken didn’t want to ordain another priest unless it was a woman! Oh yeah, almost forgot he pointed out that there were way too many masses said other than Sunday. Very innovative if you want to pursue that avenue. A Unity Hall Honoring, WOW!

This is an early candidate for delusional post of the year…

I don’t know how many more ways to say this, but the bishop never held off on ordinations because of anything to do with women…nor do I recall him limiting daily mass.

Don’t show contempt when you don’t even have your facts straight.

 

[grotto]

Frommi - Do you think you are the only one who had the opportunity to know what was going on - to have heard statements made and quoted, and printed in the newspaper? Do you feel that nothing happened badly to many, rather mostly, to the Catholic Faith in the Saginaw Diocese? Do you choose to deny the obvious? Don’t get smart alecky with me - I make it fundamental to KNOW of what I speak and will SPEAK. I have not been afraid to step forward and provide written correspondence to Ken, hand delivered, and received squat back through the mail. Pleas and prayers were made all thoughout the Saginaw Diocese and still are to rid the corruption of our Catholic Faith. I am suspicious of your opinions and their origin. Enough!

 

[frommi]

grotto:

Frommi - Do you think you are the only one who had the opportunity to know what was going on - to have heard statements made and quoted, and printed in the newspaper? Do you feel that nothing happened badly to many, rather mostly, to the Catholic Faith in the Saginaw Diocese? Do you choose to deny the obvious? Don’t get smart alecky with me - I make it fundamental to KNOW of what I speak and will SPEAK. I have not been afraid to step forward and provide written correspondence to Ken, hand delivered, and received squat back through the mail. Pleas and prayers were made all thoughout the Saginaw Diocese and still are to rid the corruption of our Catholic Faith. I am suspicious of your opinions and their origin. Enough!

Show me a source grotto…when did the late bishop say something to corrupt the catholic faith?

I’m very curious when this stuff happened, because to the best of my knowledge this man never broke communion with Rome.

And I will say that if you think I’m being smart alecky, you are doing nothing more than showing a high degree of elitism that you are not in position to hold over me.