Bishop Williamson and the Jews

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Is this just slander, or does Bishop Williamson think that the Jews made up the Sho’ah (Holocaust) so that they could establish the state of Israel, and generally lord over gentiles? I am especially concerned because my great-grandfather died at Auschwitz, and my great-grandmother and her children, including my grandfather, were lucky enough to be hidden by heroic Catholics from the Nazis. If you think that Bishop Williamson really believes this, please provide real evidence, such as a video of Bishop Williamson, or a link to a statement from the SSPX website.
 
He doesn’t deny the Holocaust. He questions and denies certain details about the Holocaust, such as the number of people killed. The official numbers have been reduced from teh 6 million we have all heard to a lesser figure (not exactly sure what it is).

What I find very interesting is that it is illegal in some countries to even question certain details with respect to the Holocaust. There is no problem with questioning, or denying, that Jesus is God, or that God exists, but if you question any aspect of the Holocaust you are thrown in jail. The only logical reason for this is that there is something to hide. My guess is that the number of people killed is far fewer than the numbers that are thrown around.

Bishop Williamson is one of the very few who are not afraid to question the official story when the facts don’t add up. If there was no problem with the official story; and if it was supported by the facts, why would they forbid people from investigating it? You would think they would encourage investigations in order to confirm the claims. Yet investigating the facts is forbidden. To me this in itself is a cause for suspision. Again, my guess is that the number of people killed (some Jews and some Catholics) is far lower than what they claim.
 
Williamson has done much more than suggest that the Holocaust numbers might be off. He refers to it as the “quote unquote Holocaust” and denies that a single Jew died in a gas chamber. He has also made a number of anti-semitic comments, including endorsing the fraudulent Protocols of Elder Zion and accusing Jews of plotting world domination.
 
Christus_Rex said:
Again, my guess is that the number of people killed (some Jews and some Catholics) is far lower than what they claim.
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It is estimated that 6 million Jews and 4-6 million non-Jews were killed by the Nazi regime during World War II. Shame on you for trying to lessen the horror by reducing the numbers. What is your motivation for such an action?
 
Timothysis said:
It is estimated that 6 million Jews and 4-6 million non-Jews were killed by the Nazi regime during World War II. Shame on you for trying to lessen the horror by reducing the numbers. What is your motivation for such an action?
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Look up Anders Otte Stensager–a Danish Holocaust researcher. His work deals with countering revisionism. Apparently in his research – he found the 6 million figure was inflated and could not be supported.
 
Christus_Rex said:
He doesn’t deny the Holocaust. He questions and denies certain details about the Holocaust, such as the number of people killed.
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He lists the number at around 200,000 - 300,000 and none where killed in gas chanbers. He is on record as not one Jew was ever killed in a gas chamber. He bases this because on person said the door was not air tight. He says in regards to anti-Semitism that if it is true, then it is not a bad thing.

He also supports the conspiracy theory that the twin towers were not destroyed by terrorists but rather by were staged by the US government. 🤷

He has stated that his beliefs are devoided of emotion and based on logic alone. One can judge his ability to add two and two, but his beliefs should not reflect on his society.
 
pnewton said:
He lists the number at around 200,000 - 300,000 and none where killed in gas chanbers. He is on record as not one Jew was ever killed in a gas chamber. He bases this because on person said the door was not air tight. **He says in regards to anti-Semitism that if it is true, then it is not a bad thing. **

He also supports the conspiracy theory that the twin towers were not destroyed by terrorists but rather by were staged by the US government. 🤷

He has stated that his beliefs are devoided of emotion and based on logic alone. One can judge his ability to add two and two, but his beliefs should not reflect on his society.
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I believe you are mixing up two separate sentences. He said –If anti-Semitism is bad, its against truth. If something is true, it’s not bad.

One other thing --the person who said the door was not air tight–from what the Bishop said --the person has expertise in the design of gas chambers.
 
TMC said:
Williamson has done much more than suggest that the Holocaust numbers might be off. He refers to it as the “quote unquote Holocaust” and denies that a single Jew died in a gas chamber. He has also made a number of anti-semitic comments, including endorsing the fraudulent Protocols of Elder Zion and accusing Jews of plotting world domination.
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pnewton said:
He lists the number at around 200,000 - 300,000 and none where killed in gas chanbers. He is on record as not one Jew was ever killed in a gas chamber. He bases this because on person said the door was not air tight. He says in regards to anti-Semitism that if it is true, then it is not a bad thing.

He also supports the conspiracy theory that the twin towers were not destroyed by terrorists but rather by were staged by the US government.
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I read that the Pope is considering lifting the excommunications of the SSPX bishops. I believe that Bishop Fellay is a reasonable man, and further, that there are many good priests in the SSPX; however, I question the soundness of these wild assertions of Bishop Williamson. If these wild statements of Bishop Williamson are allowed to stand, and if the excommunications are lifted, I believe it could prove problematical.
 
pnewton said:
He lists the number at around 200,000 - 300,000 and none where killed in gas chanbers. He is on record as not one Jew was ever killed in a gas chamber. He bases this because on person said the door was not air tight. He says in regards to anti-Semitism that if it is true, then it is not a bad thing.

He also supports the conspiracy theory that the twin towers were not destroyed by terrorists but rather by were staged by the US government. 🤷
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He also said that “for all” was the wrong translation of “pro mulits”. That crazy statement, which was contrary to what Rome said and implied for 37 years, turned out to ebe exactly right.

Another crazy personal belief of his was that the Old Mass was never abrogated. Contrary to what John Paul II the Great and virtually every Bishop in union with him taught, our new Pope admitted that the Bishop was right the whole time, and that the old Mass was never abrogatedt.

And guess what other crazy belief he held? That’s right, Bishop Williamssome believed that the “excommunication” of himself and Archbishop Lefebvre was null and void from the begining. And now what is Rome saying? We’ll find out soon.

Maybe you should start listening to Bishop Williamson. He seems to have the ability to see the truth when almost no one else can. Heck, the entire hierarchy was led into errors that Bishop Williamson could clearly see through the entire time.

Maybe God has given him that gift because he is not afraid to speak the truth. After all, why would God give such a gift to one who was too scared of offending people to speak up? Bishop Williamson doesn’t suffer from such disordered human respect. He has the courage to say what he believes to be true regardless of how politically incorrect it is.
 
bobzills said:
I read that the Pope is considering lifting the excommunications of the SSPX bishops. I believe that Bishop Fellay is a reasonable man, and further, that there are many good priests in the SSPX; however, I question the soundness of these wild assertions of Bishop Williamson. If these wild statements of Bishop Williamson are allowed to stand, and if the excommunications are lifted, I believe it could prove problematical.
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But they aren’t related. The excommunications deal directly with the 1988 consecrations. In no way are they related to his personal views on certain issues. If the excommunications should be lifted / annulled / declared null and void then they should, regardless of unrelated personal statements.
 
Christus_Rex said:
He doesn’t deny the Holocaust. He questions and denies certain details about the Holocaust, such as the number of people killed. The official numbers have been reduced from teh 6 million we have all heard to a lesser figure (not exactly sure what it is).

What I find very interesting is that it is illegal in some countries to even question certain details with respect to the Holocaust. There is no problem with questioning, or denying, that Jesus is God, or that God exists, but if you question any aspect of the Holocaust you are thrown in jail. The only logical reason for this is that there is something to hide. My guess is that the number of people killed is far fewer than the numbers that are thrown around.

Bishop Williamson is one of the very few who are not afraid to question the official story when the facts don’t add up. If there was no problem with the official story; and if it was supported by the facts, why would they forbid people from investigating it? You would think they would encourage investigations in order to confirm the claims. Yet investigating the facts is forbidden. To me this in itself is a cause for suspision. Again, my guess is that the number of people killed (some Jews and some Catholics) is far lower than what they claim.
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Numbers are not thrown around. The murdering Nazis were very good record keepers so we know the numbers are real!
 
thistle said:
Numbers are not thrown around. The murdering Nazis were very good record keepers so we know the numbers are real!
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Many of the companies I have contracted to are very good record keepers as well.

But if the numbers don’t look right for month or year end, its no trouble at all to lose a few million here, and gain it there, or gain it here, from seemingly no-where!

All with a proper audited (and passed with flying colours) audit trail… And that’s on figures that were only generated within the last 12 months.

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Walking_Home said:
Look up Anders Otte Stensager–a Danish Holocaust researcher. His work deals with countering revisionism. Apparently in his research – he found the 6 million figure was inflated and could not be supported.
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Stensager says that his research supports a number closer to 4 million, but his research does not support Williamson’s 200-300,000 number. Stensager’s also concluded that there were gas chambers and crematoriums at Auschwitz.

Williamson quotes and defends revisionists. More importantly, he has said that he believes the Protocols of Elder Zion are true and that there is a world-wide Jewish plot to take over the world. It is hard to understand his statements as anything other than anti-semitism.
 
bobzills said:
If these wild statements of Bishop Williamson are allowed to stand, and if the excommunications are lifted, I believe it could prove problematical.
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The excommunications were based on the disobedience in the ordination of these men. Their mental state or opinion on conspiracy theories should not be a consideration when determining their status with the Church. There could be many possibilities, including an order from the Holy Father that Bishop Williamson cease making public comments outside his role as bishop, reassignment to some far away area or simply lifitng the other excommunication, if Bishop WIlliamson wishes to continue in his disobedience.
 
TMC said:
Stensager says that his research supports a number closer to 4 million, but his research does not support Williamson’s 200-300,000 number. Stensager’s also concluded that there were gas chambers and crematoriums at Auschwitz.

Williamson quotes and defends revisionists. More importantly, he has said that he believes the Protocols of Elder Zion are true and that there is a world-wide Jewish plot to take over the world. It is hard to understand his statements as anything other than anti-semitism.
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Yup --his research supports a number of approx. 4 million – but the point is that his research has already revised and countered the 6 million figure. A researcher who was to counter the revisionists–via research – is now a revisionist himself. Who is to say that further study and research will not again revise the 4 million figure. Are not the revisionists basing themselves on research they have done. Bishop Williamson has opinions --being an eccentric – is not a valid reason to label the man with anti-semitism.
 
TMC said:
Williamson quotes and defends revisionists. More importantly, he has said that he believes the Protocols of Elder Zion are true and that there is a world-wide Jewish plot to take over the world. It is hard to understand his statements as anything other than anti-semitism.
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He also believes wild conspiracy theories about September 11th, but I don’t think that makes him anti-American. We can’t presume to know the man’s soul; he may just be very prone to belief in such theories.
 
Dauphin said:
He also believes wild conspiracy theories about September 11th, but I don’t think that makes him anti-American. We can’t presume to know the man’s soul; he may just be very prone to belief in such theories.
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That’s true, but combining Holocaust denial and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion usually leads one to assume the person in question is anti-Semitic.
 
Lujack said:
That’s true, but combining Holocaust denial and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion usually leads one to assume the person in question is anti-Semitic.
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Holocaust denial --would be denying the concentration existed and no Jews died within them–wouldn’t it. That is not what the Bishop is saying.
 
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