Bishop's Crozier at Ordination

[KnightOfSPUD]

You see our congregation (Claretians) had an ordination of 5 Deacons last December 8 (Thanks be to God!)

Now in the diocese we belonged to, had its Feast Day (the Filipino Fiestas are really something to look into). So the Bishop from the neighboring diocese was the ordaining prelate. During the procession, he was using a crozier.

I was thinking to myself, why did His Excellency bring a crozier when he was not in his territory?

And are nuncios entitled to use croziers in the country they are ministering to?

 

[malphono]

Traditionally, a guest bishop, invited to officiate by the Ordinary of the place, is permitted to use his crozier. The same is true of an auxiliary bishop officiating in lieu of the Ordinary. IIRC, a cardinal may always use a crozier, but a visiting bishop who was not invited by the Ordinary of the place to function in his stead should not use one.

Normally, the crozier is held with the crook facing outward, to symbolize pastoral jurisdiction, but there was a custom (widespread at least in some places) where the bishop in the above cases would hold the crozier with the crook facing inward instead. IIRC, that custom was unofficial, and I’ve no idea if it survives. OTOH, I’ve seen bishops-ordinaries holding the crozier with the crook facing *inward *even within their own dioceses, which is clearly an error (and most likely an unintentional one).

 

[Neofight]

OTOH, I’ve seen bishops-ordinaries holding the crozier with the crook facing *inward *even within their own dioceses, which is clearly an error (and most likely an unintentional one).

I’m not doubting your assessment, because I found it fascinating, but what is the source of the inward facing of the crozier in the case you describe “an error”? Again, I’m just wondering.

Thanks!

 

[malphono]

For one, you’ll find something about it in Fr Z’s blog.

 

[John_Lilburne]

From the liturgical book Ceremonial of Bishops (Liturgical Press, 1989, ISBN 081461819):

“59 The bishop carries the pastoral staff in his own territory as a sign of his pastoral office, but any bishop who, with the consent of the diocesan bishop, solemnly celebrates may use the pastoral staff. [footnote 55: See Sacred Congregation of Rites, Instruction *Pontificales ritus, on the simplification of pontifical rites and insignia, 21 June 1968, no. 19 …] When several bishops are present at the same celebration, only the presiding bishop uses the pastoral staff.
As a rule, the bishop holds the pastoral staff, its curved head turned away from himself and toward the people: as he walks in procession, listens to the gospel reading, and gives the homily; also when receiving religious vows and promises or a profession of faith and when he bestows a blessing on persons, unless the blessing includes the laying on of hands.”

 

[GoGoDiego]

You see our congregation (Claretians) had an ordination of 5 Deacons last December 8 (Thanks be to God!)

Now in the diocese we belonged to, had its Feast Day (the Filipino Fiestas are really something to look into). So the Bishop from the neighboring diocese was the ordaining prelate. During the procession, he was using a crozier.

I was thinking to myself, why did His Excellency bring a crozier when he was not in his territory?

And are nuncios entitled to use croziers in the country they are ministering to?

If I am not mistaken, I think it was the ordination of Frs. Martin Ele, Jay Coching, Aldrin Castillones and two priests I do not know. Our batch from the neighboring school (Claret School, on which Fr. Ele was an almnus) were present and witnessed their diaconal ordination last July 16. The Senior batch witnessed their preistly ordination last Dec. 8

Maybe the Bishop of the Diocese permitted to utilize the crosier. Last year, we planned on asking the bishop of Cubao if the bishop emeritus of the neighboring diocese (Bp. Bacani) to use the crosier for the confirmation of the Senior batch. (I was serving in the Confirmation rite) but we suggested not to ask anymore due to the shortness of time.

As for the nuncios, I observed when they are presiding, they use the crosier…but I do not know if they are to use it in the country they serve

 

[KnightOfSPUD]

If I am not mistaken, I think it was the ordination of Frs. Martin Ele, Jay Coching, Aldrin Castillones and two priests I do not know. Our batch from the neighboring school (Claret School, on which Fr. Ele was an almnus) were present and witnessed their diaconal ordination last July 16. The Senior batch witnessed their preistly ordination last Dec. 8

Maybe the Bishop of the Diocese permitted to utilize the crosier. Last year, we planned on asking the bishop of Cubao if the bishop emeritus of the neighboring diocese (Bp. Bacani) to use the crosier for the confirmation of the Senior batch. (I was serving in the Confirmation rite) but we suggested not to ask anymore due to the shortness of time.

As for the nuncios, I observed when they are presiding, they use the crosier…but I do not know if they are to use it in the country they serve

Salamat sa Diyos! May pinoy!
The two other priests were fathers sunny varquez and thomas kiem. Fr. Thomas was notoriously known to be the “forever deacon” who wasn’t ready.

Back to the case, I was just surprised to see Bishop Tobias using the staff. I also noticed that he didn’t bless the people as he processed.

P.S. Most Rev. Antonio Tobias, DD, JCL, 2nd Bishop of Novaliches, is one of the only Bishops in the Philippines to celebrate the Tridentine Mass. Furthermore, he is the only one to celebrate the mass in his own Cathedral. Not inside any room, oratory or chapel but on the high altar of the cathedral.