Bizarre cases of libido

[Mr_Fausto]

Instead of dancing around the issue, I’ll get right down to it. Whenever one is, for example playing say one of those SimCity games and I am blowing everything up with meteors, earthquakes, etc., or playing the Godfather video games and throwing people off bridges, throttling them, etc. (I gave that up for Lent…all video games that is), or sees a scene (generic rather than exact example) where some imposing villain has tied the hero to the train tracks (or whatever situation you want), and there libido absolutely skyrockets, and I mean, embarrasingly so, what do you do?. Or if the same thing occurs if one is reading Poe’s Pit and the Pendulum or a documentary on the Inquisition (or those stupid CIA-conspiracy ones the History channel loves to show). Do these things become occasions of sin? I am very very very frustrated!

 

[JimG]

The Pit and the Pendulum? I hope this doesn’t presage a run on Edgar Allen Poe books!

Seriously, if it’s a problem I’d find a new hobby. But I’ve known known some adolescents who get turned on by nearly anything.

 

[Leopard]

It’s not necessarily a matter of “getting turned on”, especially among adolescent men. Sometimes it’s just an involuntary physiological occurrence with no more moral significance than a case of the hiccups. If that happens, just ignore it, It will go away.

 

[Mr_Fausto]

Seriously, if it’s a problem I’d find a new hobby. But I’ve known known some adolescents who get turned on by nearly anything.

I avoid any such situation, normally, as much possible, but many times I have that urge to go after something like this, which I find very unfortunate. I dwell on whatever it is, and then afterwards I’m falling to pieces because I feel like I know I’ve committed a grave mortal sin, lust, pride, whatever…what I’m looking for is a precise answer. What do I with situations that provoke this sort of biological response, especially if I might subconsciously be seeking it out (all the same while pretending to deny everything)…grr.

It’s not necessarily a matter of “getting turned on”, especially among adolescent men. Sometimes it’s just an involuntary physiological occurrence with no more moral significance than a case of the hiccups. If that happens, just ignore it, It will go away.

I suppose I’m still in adolescence, though I’ve just recently turned 20, I guess I live in Neverneverland (I get that feeling from those around me). Involuntely physiological occurence? What exactly is the moral implications of libido, in any such case? Do I avoid the situations or what? I don’t suppose I could slide into Opus Dei with this little issue…

 

[JPUSC]

Um, sounds like it could be a bondage fetish.

Do you have feelings of powerlessness or inadequacy that scenes of having power over someone become attractive to you?

 

[whatevergirl]

Is there anything inherently immoral over certain ‘fetishes?’

 

[JPUSC]

Is there anything inherently immoral over certain ‘fetishes?’

 

[whatevergirl]

Mr Fausto;

I think that it could be an adrenaline rush from visually stimulating scenes such as what you describe… I think that due to your age, it could be the reason, but I would probably avoid those things if you feel that it ‘could’ be a near occasion to sin. Not everyone fits a cookie cutter mold of what they find exciting/arousing so that is my guess. I wouldn’t worry over it, but I’d seek maybe different forms of visualization. God bless.

 

[whatevergirl]

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If one is married, and has a fantasy of some sort, or a fetish…let’s say for this discussion it’s bondage, is there anything immoral about that, if a married couple’s sexuality is not devalued or compromised? Mr. Fausto, sorry to go OT. JPUSC brought this up, so I thought I’d ask the question.

 

[JPUSC]

If one is married, and has a fantasy of some sort, or a fetish…let’s say for this discussion it’s bondage, is there anything immoral about that, if a married couple’s sexuality is not devalued or compromised? Mr. Fausto, sorry to go OT. JPUSC brought this up, so I thought I’d ask the question.

Yeah, I’m not sure. I think there have been posts about this in the past, but who knows really.

 

[whatevergirl]

Okay…thanks.

 

[Mr_Fausto]

Do you have feelings of powerlessness or inadequacy that scenes of having power over someone become attractive to you?

I’d never use those exact words, just because its just plain weird…I’m not fully sure what those are, nor am I super eager to know. As for feeling powerless or inadequate…not really, but I do hate when I don’t have control in a situation or if I do, (when I was babysitting my evil little Nazi cousins), I was accused of being too strict…I don’t know.

 

[Mr_Fausto]

If one is married, and has a fantasy of some sort, or a fetish…let’s say for this discussion it’s bondage, is there anything immoral about that, if a married couple’s sexuality is not devalued or compromised? Mr. Fausto, sorry to go OT. JPUSC brought this up, so I thought I’d ask the question.

No, no, you’ve barely scratched the surface. I’m looking for answers here! This is exactly the kind of questions I have in mind, I’m just too stupid (introspectively) to put them to words haha.

 

[whatevergirl]

Like JPUSC said, maybe there is a useful thread somewhere on this. I think as a single man, your best bet would be to avoid things that stimulate your mind/body…in a way that could lead you to sin. If that is ‘bondage’ type scenarios, it’s best to avoid. The thing is even as a married person, I can’t imagine viewing bondage scenes as…edifying to a marriage, lol

But, again, if this is just a foreplay type of thing for a couple, in a loving marriage, I am not so sure if it would be considered immoral. Come to think of it, I’m vaguely remembering a thread on this.

 

[JPUSC]

I’d never use those exact words, just because its just plain weird…I’m not fully sure what those are, nor am I super eager to know. As for feeling powerless or inadequate…not really, but I do hate when I don’t have control in a situation or if I do, (when I was babysitting my evil little Nazi cousins), I was accused of being too strict…I don’t know.

The feeling of wanting control over a situation and/or authoritarianism could be it, but I’m no expert. If you think it’s serious, you can talk to a Catholic psychiatrist or priest about it, but it’s probably nothing.

A quick wikipedia search turned this out:

Alfred Adler provided another perspective, linking the “will to power over others” as a central neurotic trait, usually emerging as aggressive over-compensation for felt and dreaded feelings of inferiority and insignificance. According to this view, the authoritarian need to maintain control and prove superiority over others is rooted in a worldview populated by enemies and empty of equality, empathy, and mutual benefit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality

 

[JPUSC]

I don’t know how reliable this website is, but I found this interesting:

psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/authoritarian_personality.php

According to Adorno’s theory, the elements of the Authoritarian personality type are:

Blind allegiance to conventional beliefs about right and wrong

Respect for submission to acknowledged authority

Belief in aggression toward those who do not subscribe to conventional thinking, or who are different

A negative view of people in general - i.e. the belief that people would all lie, cheat or steal if given the opportunity

A need for strong leadership which displays uncompromising power

A belief in simple answers and polemics - i.e. The media controls us all or The source of all our problems is the loss of morals these days.

Resistance to creative, dangerous ideas. A black and white worldview.

A tendency to project one’s own feelings of inadequacy, rage and fear onto a scapegoated group

A preoccupation with violence and sex

Some of the above statements sounds like the description of a conservative Catholic, LOL.

Are they related? I have no idea.

 

[whatevergirl]

Personally, I think if a person is drawn to that type of visualization/scenarios, there definitely could be cause for concern. The things we continue to watch, over and over, eventually we can become fixated, and a habit forms. I think that is very much the case for men with porn. The images become so ingrained inside of a man’s mind…that a habit forms because of continuously seeking out the visuals. So, a case could be made for someone who is ‘drawn’ to these types of scenes. The thing about video games, Mr Fausto, is that they too are very addicting, and it’s great that you sacrificed that for Lent. I think you will emerge better off for doing so!

But, if you really feel that you’re drawn to a certain type of scenario, and you seek it out, that would be cause for concern. Again, if you are feeling ‘weak’ around such stimulus, better to not view it.

 

[Mr_Fausto]

The feeling of wanting control over a situation and/or authoritarianism could be it, but I’m no expert. If you think it’s serious, you can talk to a Catholic psychiatrist or priest about it, but it’s probably nothing.

A quick wikipedia search turned this out:

What does probably nothing mean? I looked that up and ended up at “Right-wing authoritarianism”. I voted Republican, I have a bizarre (I guess in the modern viewpoint) admiration of Franco, and tend to express “ultraconservative” views (without ever putting them into practice really, but I’m trying, honest!), would that have anything to do with it? Would that be bad then, I guess. Maybe I should cancel an order from Amazon. It’s not that I seek out spoil marriage or anything, and I never see anything sexual in all of this, but…I don’t know. Though if it helps, I would NEVER attempt anything like that in a marriage, not with a woman I’m married too…I don’t know. :banghead:

 

[Mr_Fausto]

Some of the above statements sounds like the description of a conservative Catholic, LOL.

Are they related? I have no idea.

You read my mind EXACTLY haha.

 

[whatevergirl]

What does probably nothing mean? I looked that up and ended up at “Right-wing authoritarianism”. I voted Republican, I have a bizarre (I guess in the modern viewpoint) admiration of Franco, and tend to express “ultraconservative” views (without ever putting them into practice really, but I’m trying, honest!), would that have anything to do with it? Would that be bad then, I guess. Maybe I should cancel an order from Amazon. It’s not that I seek out spoil marriage or anything, and I never see anything sexual in all of this, but…I don’t know. Though if it helps, I would NEVER attempt anything like that in a marriage, not with a woman I’m married too…I don’t know. :banghead:

Aw, stop beating yourself up over this. You are acknowledging things at least. Just avoid these scenes for now, and see how you feel. I don’t think being an ultraconservative makes you predestined to this. LOL! I really don’t see the correlation.