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Never heard of the “Black fast” before your post.

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I’ve heard the term “black fast” used before by a few priests but it was used to refer to the 1st Day of Great Lent and Great Friday as there were days when no meat, eggs or dairy produts were permited.

Have never heard of not permiting the drinking of water…

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There may be more than one use of Black Fast. In my Irish family it referred to a fast that allowed only black tea. I don’t know whether this meaning is common.
 
I saw a Lenten reflection w/ Benedict Groeschel on EWTN this afternoon where he mentioned the black fast. He described as no meat(fish included), dairy products, or eggs.
 
ByzCath said:
Never heard of the “Black fast” before your post.

Wikipedia is not a good source to rely on for information.
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I’ve never heard it before either although the link provided seems to describe the typical Byzantine fast. The term in my mind also seems to contradict the proper spirit of the fast. Fasting should not be “black” as in dreary and gloomy. If it is you are doing something wrong. 🙂

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The term black fast is an old Western term. It refered to the old lenten fasting traditions. Even the Latins used to fast from meat, fish dairy and eggs for all of lent. The term is seldom used anymore, except in some of the more traditional religious congregations.

I have always wondered why among the traditionalist Latins they are so much in favor of bringing back the old mass but not the disapline that went along with it. I havent heard anyone calling for the restoration of the black fast. 🙂

Traditionally in the East one would fast from food and drink until after the ninth hour (about 3 pm), the water part is rarely done any more except in some monasteries.
 
The fasting that we received from our grandparents and they receieved from their grandfathers is:
You eat dinner, and then nothing enter your mouth untill next day noon time, and then when you do eat, you only eat product of the earth,i.e. no meat including fish no dairy no eggs or anything that comes out of animals.
GOD bless you all †††
 
ciero said:
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I have always wondered why among the traditionalist Latins they are so much in favor of bringing back the old mass but not the discipline that went along with it. I havent heard anyone calling for the restoration of the black fast. 🙂
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I haven’t encountered much support for the first centuries’ style of Confession and penance either. You know, the kind with muti-year wearing of sackcloth and ashes and begging for prayers at the church door. Some noted that the VII enthusiasts, who wanted to get back to the original form of the sacraments never supported that either. :rolleyes:
 
Joe_Kelley said:
I haven’t encountered much support for the first centuries’ style of Confession and penance either. You know, the kind with muti-year wearing of sackcloth and ashes and begging for prayers at the church door. Some noted that the VII enthusiasts, who wanted to get back to the original form of the sacraments never supported that either. :rolleyes:
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Let us not forget that absolution was, at one point, considered a non-repeatable sacrament, much like baptism and confirmation.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
I haven’t encountered much support for the first centuries’ style of Confession and penance either. You know, the kind with muti-year wearing of sackcloth and ashes and begging for prayers at the church door. Some noted that the VII enthusiasts, who wanted to get back to the original form of the sacraments never supported that either. :rolleyes:
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Seems to me these trads want all the smells and bells with none of the disapline that goes along with it. I’m not advocating going back to a tradition that has been in disuse for centuries. The black fast was discontinued in the USA in 1914, not all that long ago.
 
Aramis said:
Let us not forget that absolution was, at one point, considered a non-repeatable sacrament, much like baptism and confirmation.
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In those days of long penance you probably wouldn’t live long enough to do it twice. 😉
 
I’d always understood “black fast” to mean a complete 24 hour period with nothing but water or tea (with no cream or sugar - hence the “black”). I think it’s actually Irish, but from what I’ve heard, Irish fasting used to be more “eastern” than most of the latin Church.
 
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