Black Vestments on All Souls Day - in Pictures

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From the GIRM: 346-e

Besides violet, white or black vestments may be worn at funeral services and at other Offices and Masses for the Dead in the Dioceses of the United States of America.

For those at COL I posted these there too. The quality is not too good, but if you never seen black vestments used before, you can see it here.

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Lux_et_veritas said:
From the GIRM: 346-e

Besides violet, white or black vestments may be worn at funeral services and at other Offices and Masses for the Dead in the Dioceses of the United States of America.

For those at COL I posted these there too. The quality is not too good, but if you never seen black vestments used before, you can see it here.

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A novus Ad Ortientem? (Is that the right term?)
 
Yes, black vestments were used at funerals and other times, especially before Vat.2. I served many a funeral Mass, when they were the norm, along with no communion, and no music.
 
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A novus Ad Ortientem? (Is that the right term?)
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Of course!!!

There is a thread dedicated entirely to the subject - with pictures - nice ones!

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=72363
 
My parish had the exact same Solemn High Mass and absolution of the dead ritual (I may post pictures later), but I wondered about the picture from Mater Ecclesiae. Why is the subdeacon at the foot and the celebrant at the head ofn the catafalque? Normally it is the othe other way around, unless it is a burial of a priest. Was this a burial of a priest?
 
I see what you mean on the other thread. My question about the pictures above concerns the black tabernacle veil. It used to be strictly forbidden. Is its use now permitted with the reformed rites?
 
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My parish had the exact same Solemn High Mass and absolution of the dead ritual (I may post pictures later), but I wondered about the picture from Mater Ecclesiae. Why is the subdeacon at the foot and the celebrant at the head ofn the catafalque? Normally it is the othe other way around, unless it is a burial of a priest. Was this a burial of a priest?
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I don’t believe you are seeing a sub-deacon.

Are you thinking Tridentine? This is a Latin Novus Ordo done ad orientem.
 
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pgoings:
I see what you mean on the other thread. My question about the pictures above concerns the black tabernacle veil. It used to be strictly forbidden. Is its use now permitted with the reformed rites?
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Can’t really speak to the black tabernacle veil. I’m actually quite new to tall of this.
 
Our priest was wearing white yesterday (All Souls) and made a big point of saying the Mass was to celebrate the hope we have in eternal life. He was–as always–upbeat. Nothing wrong with that, and some people there were still suffering recent losses. BUT somewhere in there, he extinguished the difference between All Saints Day and All Souls Day (kind of presuming all who died were in heaven). We pray for the souls who haven’t yet made it there…maybe black vestments are more apropos? (I’ve NEVER seen them in my parish; I know some people are offended if they are worn for a loved one’s funeral.)
 
The thing I found most striking about the black chasuble the priest wore was the red stripes (I should know the correct word but I can’t recall it). When I was an altar boy before VII the priest’s chasuble and the cope he wore at graveside as well as the “shroud” covering the coffin were black with white markings. Red was usually reserved for feast days of martyrs and to represent the Holy Spirit (Ghost back then).
 
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Yes, black vestments were used at funerals and other times, especially before Vat.2. I served many a funeral Mass, when they were the norm, along with no communion, and no music.
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no communion? how was it a mass?
 
no communion? how was it a mass?
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presumably Consecration, but no distribution to the assembled faithful, also presumably as a sign of respect for he/she who could no longer receive the Eucharist.
 
… but he or she no longer needs the eucharist, he or she is now in perpetual and perfect communion with god.
 
[EDIT - nevermind - had a question - I seeit’s been answered already.]
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Diane,

Your photos always come out lovely!! Thank you for posting.

To tell the truth, I really didn’t notice what my priest was wearing (white, I believe). I was distracted by the lack of people attending Mass on All Saint’s, althought the first Mass was larger than usual. There were three Masses on All Saint’s and All Soul’s. I went to the noon Mass on All Soul’s and there were only about 8 of us there.

Father chastised (in a very kind way, of course) those who did not attend at the Sunday Mass. Also spoke of the lack of people attending confession on Saturday.

It’s a shame. All the parishoners keep talking about church closings (ours is on the list), but they will do nothing to support our parish when Father does these extra Masses (All Souls not a day of obligation, but he held three Masses anyway).

Anyway Diane, thank you for posting your lovely photes, hope to see more soon.
 
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