Blasphemous Thoughts--Help!

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How long can a blasphemous thought exist in your mind before it becomes a sin & then a mortal sin? Out of nowhere, a blasphemous thought entered my mind, involving desecration of the Eucharist. Although I dismissed it and not certain why I had it, I keep “remembering” having the thought.
 
How long can a blasphemous thought exist in your mind before it becomes a sin & then a mortal sin? Out of nowhere, a blasphemous thought entered my mind, involving desecration of the Eucharist. Although I dismissed it and not certain why I had it, I keep “remembering” having the thought.
It’s not as uncommon as you think, some Saints were tormented with it.

Blessed Alexandrina Maria Da Costa being one example.

She went on:

<There are days when the devil makes me feel so exhausted and puts so many evil suggestions and doubts into my mind, that were it not for the goodness of God, he would have won me already… He has tempted me so much that on some days I feel that Hell itself is about to engulf me. He urges me to kill myself, and says he will give me the means to do this without any cost. He adds that I am suffering here for no recompense, that Our Lord does not love me at all, that my spiritual director does not believe a word of what I write to him, that what I feel in myself when Our Lord speaks to me is caused by the weather, or by my illness.>

Pray pray and pray some more.
 
I doesn’t become sinful until you consent to it. Inability to fight it off is not the same as consent. As long as you do not wish to have the thought, regardless of whether the thought remains with you, you have not sinned.

Betsy
 
Firstly know that you are not alone.

To get better insight on how to handle these thoughts, read

The Three Conversions in the Spiritual Life. In this compact book; the famous Thomist; Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange; sets forth the classic Catholic traditions on the spiritual life as the full flowering of Sanctifying Grace in the soul. He explains the three stages of the spiritual life-the Purgative Way; the Illuminative Way; and the Unitive Way-showing the transitions or conversions from one period to another. How can one become a saint without knowing the way – the pitfalls; common mistakes; and experience of Saints who have gone before? Impr. 112 pgs; PB. Available from TAN books. Then you can go on other works.

Another good book is the GROWTH IN HOLINESS by Fr. William Faber. To under SIN better get DIVINE INTIMACY Meditations on the Interior Life for Every Day of the Liturgical Year
By: Fr. Gabriel of St. Mary Magdalen O.C.D.

Spend time with the Lord in the Blessed Sacraments while you meditate on what is written in these books. Believe me the Holy Spirit will enlighten you.

Taking the effort to read these books will give you greater insight than if you just discuss about it as we often get off-track in our discussions and digress on to other matters. If you really want to overcome these thoughts… you must stay focused and learn from the saints.
 
You are not alone!!!

I have struggled with mild Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) since my teen years. I was able to overcome it via behavior change and awareness for many years. Then, the more religious/spiritual I became, the more blaspehmous thoughts I had. Really haunting ones. For me, it was a case of OCD.anxiety disorder. (I had other problems, too, not just the thoughts.) I take meds now.

I’m sharing this just so you know many of us experience it. Imagine what I was going through- my brain chemicals being out of whack!!! Ugh!!! What comforted me is knowing that I’m not alone in having this affliction. Reading about the saints also helped.

Prayer is a wonderful thing. I think you should start saying the Our Father when the thought enters your mind.
 
I too have these thoughts. They are very troublesome. I don’t know if I am thinking the thought or if the thought is thinking me. Sometimes the thoughts seem to come from me sometimes I just don’t know. When I know that I thought it before I think it again. Wretched man that I am who can save me from these thoughts?

I thank you Lord Jesus for helping me think or see more clearly more clearly. I hope and pray I will have relief of these thoughts and sin no more.

Satan can go back where he belongs!
 
How long can a blasphemous thought exist in your mind before it becomes a sin & then a mortal sin? Out of nowhere, a blasphemous thought entered my mind, involving desecration of the Eucharist. Although I dismissed it and not certain why I had it, I keep “remembering” having the thought.
if you disagree with the thought and don’t consent to it, then it’s not a mortal sin, evenif you remember having had it. The sin is in consenting to the thoughts - choosing them, agreeing with them, etc. That is the way it was explained to me.

It’s best to just not focus on these thoughts… if they come, dismiss them and then forget about them. I personally think this is a temptation to get a person to despair or becoming impatient and lose their peace. Just keep praying, don’t choose the thoughts, don’t agree to them, - and keep your peace in Christ 🙂

I went through these temptations for a long time and they completely robbed me of my peace until my priest helped me see that there’s no sin if I don’t agree to these thoughts.

God bless
 
Unless you indulge in the thought and will it yourself, it’s not a sin. I’ve struggled with this at times, along with other kinds of sinful thought. Not long ago a Dominican priest that I was confessing to recommended that I use the name of Jesus to defend myself. Whenever these thoughts begin to attack me I simply start saying or thinking “Jesus” over and over again, invoking His name. It’s been a great help. The temptation to give into such thoughts may not go away, but the strength to resist becomes greater.
 
yes, when you get these temptations, just do the opposite and focus on God, and pray to Him… you can’t bless and blaspheme God at the same time 🙂 you would either will one, or the other. Just will to bless Him always, and that will help. You can do this in your mind, through praying, and use holy water, holy images, etc. My priest advised I hold a crucifix when these temptations come.

God bless
 
I doesn’t become sinful until you consent to it. Inability to fight it off is not the same as consent. As long as you do not wish to have the thought, regardless of whether the thought remains with you, you have not sinned.

Betsy
I have the same problem.
 
+The pray:gopray2:er below is from the wonderful renown little . . . PIETA Prayer Booklet . . . with the following explanation . . . *“This prayer was revealed by our Lord to a Carmelite Nun of Tours in 1843 as a reparation for blasphemy.”
*“This **Golden Arrow ***will wound My Heart ❤️ delightfully,”
He said, *
“and heal the wounds inflicted by blasphemy.” *

Imprimature**
** T. J. Toolen, Archbishop of Mobile-Birm.
**
The Golden Arrow**
-------->
May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable,
most mysterious and unutterable **
Name of God**
be **
always**
praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified
in heaven on earth and under the earth,
by all the creatures of God,
and by the Sacred ❤️ Heart of our
Lord Jesus Christ
in the most **Holy Sacrament **of the altar.
+
*****
. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Sweet Spirit of our Holy God+
. . . thank you Blessed Virgin Mary+
. . . thank you Holy Mother Church+
​
 
I think everybody at one time or another has these thoughts, when these type of thoughts enter my mind I pray or read scripture. It’s not easy, but over time they just strengthen our faith!
 
I’ve been having these thoughts still. I get so worried about them. It really must be the devil right? I can’t get rid of them. Please help! Thoughts don’t count right and I don’t consent to them because I don’t wish to have them.

Hope someone will post a reply. Thanks.
 
Oh, I had that too, terrible temptation, for quite some time. It involved even dirty thoughts and connect it with holy objects…

What I do is say, Jesus have mercy on me a sinner, and go to confession.

I do not know where is the line, but in my opinion, if you feel sorry for it, there is the line. And you say, Jesus forgive me, even though it keeps coming back, it will, at a certain point, go away.

You just have to be persistent for Heaven.

Many saints endure temptation of blasphemy too, if you read in their lives, Including St. Therese of Lisieux, St. Anthony Mary Claret.

St. Anthony Mary Claret had blasphemous thoughts about Blessed Virgin Mary, St. Therese of Lisieux had blasphemous thought whether heaven existed,

You just have to bear it patiently, it is terrible, I know, but have faith, and say, Jesus have mercy on me a sinner, as many times as you want.

And go to confession, say you have had blasphemous thought.

That’s what I did, it went away

And, trust in Jesus’ mercy, goodness and love.

You can read the Diary of St. Faustina Kowalska - Divine Mercy in my soul, to ease your thought, to introduce you to God’s boundless mercy, and infinite love, that he has for you.

saintsworks.net/books/St.%20Faustina%20Kowalska%20-%20Diary.pdf

Oh, and the Jesus prayer, invoking the name of Jesus, according to the rythm of your breathing, helps. It goes like this, Jeee, when you inhale, Suuus, when you exhale. Or “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner” or just “Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me a sinner” according to the rhythm of your breathing, when you inhale, say “Lord Jesus Christ”, and when you exhale say, “have mercy on me a sinner,” as many as you like. You can do that while sitting still for 15 minutes, it is a christian meditation, or while walking, sweeping, when your mind isn’t actively involved in discursive thoughts.

It has been a great help. It would little by little lead you to contemplation.

You can get saints books for free:
everycatholicblog.blogspot.com/
 
after struggling with this for many months, the thing that worked for me was figuring out the difference between consenting and not consenting. If you don’t consent, it’s not a mortal sin. So… they key is to just keep on not consenting 👍 so never want the thoughts, never agree with them, right when you’re aware of them - push them away, or better yet distract yourself and say something to God like “Jesus I love You” or the Golden Arrow Prayer. 🙂

the question that i haven’t been able to figure out is why do they happen, and why do some people get them and others don’t… is it a trial? a temptation? does God allow it for a reason, ie: to help us grow and learn to resist sin? am I a bad Christian if I was tempted in this way? or are those temptations given to those who are trying to grow in holiness (even if not succeeding)? etc.
 
Many saints have these temptations, I think it is a common temptation.
 
(from previous posts of mine)

Regarding thoughts

while Jesus makes it clear that one can sin in ones thoughts…just cause some lustful thought happens does not mean that one sinned…or a blasphemous one!

(and one can have a sufficiently good reason to think about sexual matters…for instance studying moral theology…but care must be taken to avoid things that would be a problem…but that is another question)

What should we do with* unwanted* sexual thoughts or other bad thoughts…thoughts against God etc? Those pesky temptations that can come …even though we are not seeking them etc…

(there are of course some things we should avoid that cause them…and there can be sin if it is something one should reasonably avoid…but often they come uninvited)

First…Relax. Do not worry.

Now are they mortal sins?

For a mortal sin one needs a grave matter …full knowledge AND deliberate consent!!!

A. If you do not want the thought…it the thought displeases you: it can be a sign actually that you did not give consent or do not give full consent.

B. Even if you felt a temptation for the thought – and were drawn to it —but rejected it and maybe even turned to God : again a sign not full consent.

C. But what if one has a tempting thought --say of a sexual nature and even hesitated for a moment…but then rejected it for one did not want to sin? : it can be partial consent perhaps (and thus a venial sin)-- or it may be no sin at all but rather a strong temptation that drew you but then you saw what was happening and turned away.

D. A temptation can even be very strong or the thoughts very often – but this does NOT mean one has consented! so worry not…even it they go on for a long time…

remember --for it to be mortal there must be that deliberate consent!

What to do? on the spiritual side–relax first of all and remember the above.

Next – know that the more one fears the thoughts the more likely they are to come… or said another way --the more a person seeks to avoid the thoughts the more likely he will have a problem with them. (but do not worry about this either!)

for example: for the next 10 seconds try NOT to think of an apple.

tick tock …

tick tock…

Ok what did you think of? Most likely an apple.

(and because one soooo much wants to not have them…for they go so strongly against what one wants…chastity not to blasphemy but love God…etc so they can thus due to the fear etc bother one more…)

So it is best to ignore them and just not consent and then turn your attention to some other good thing…for instance whatever you are doing. Simply do not consent and move on. and do not worry

another point – thoughts can just happen --they are the stuff with which we think…it is up to us to consent and take them further or not. and just because they are REAL VIVID and almost “think themselves” does not mean per se that one has given ANY consent.

they can be annoying…but need cause no actual harm …

(Now difficulties with thoughts can happen to anyone…and has for centuries…nothing new!..but I will note too that “some” have a condition known as OCD (I knew someone with this once…it was a painful experience)…and thus should seek further professional help to work at overcoming it and to live a more peaceful life jimmyakin.org/2005/04/a_crown_of_thor.html)

When they arise…turn to God (and/ or the matter at hand) and let them pass by…​

Another help…is the distinction between “first thoughts and emotions” (as Baur calls em) what they call the prima of the prima…“the first of the first” (as one of my Professors called em…he was a Dominican)…these are involuntary things that just come up…such are not sins. They can tempt one of course to sin…or one can then proceed to some sin…but they are the stuff of the mind and emotions which “happen to one” …and really the are opportunities for growing in virtue etc as well…

How to deal with these? First of relax…don’t scruple…don’t fear them…to try to swat them all as the come…just simply turn to other things…or the thing you are doing…or to God…(of course do not consent)…but if you are too defensive against them…they may get worse actually…and confuse you more…instead turn to God or again other good things…accept that hey…somethings wild thoughts will come to you…

(and these can happen to all of us by the way…)

There is a story from the desert of the early Centuries of the Church where a younger hermit when to an older one with the problems of thoughts happening to him all the time…the older hermit told him to go outside open his cloak and catch the wind.

The younger hermit said such is not possible…

the older hermit replied --neither is it possible to stop all the thoughts that can come to you…your choice is to say “yes” or “no”.

So relax about “unwanted thoughts”…sometimes they just come…you know like unwanted phone calls from politicitians and salepersons etc…but you can always say “no thank you” or just ignore the call and go about your business
 
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