Blood Loon Prophesy

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I just had a power outage for about an hour, if that means anything 🤷
 
The infamous blood moon of prophesy has come and gone and we’re still here. And the wiki page is now very tongue in cheek hilarious. Dunno how long it’s going to stay that way though.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Moon_Prophecy
I believe they are trying to back off of Jonathan Cahn’s work and the theory is that this is the ‘beginning’ of a troublesome year which will last until around the same time next year 2016.

I believe some of the things Jonathan Cahn mentioned and pointed to were a little ominous, but in regards to their ‘rapture’ theories and the fact that the ‘blood moon’ in revelations was quite a lot more than simply a ‘blood moon’ I believe they are quite off base.

As for the end times, I believe that dates given should not be heeded. (End Times in the Gospel - Matthew 24:3-31)

At the same time too, I don’t really like the flat out dismissal of the end times, as I know Jesus mentions it’s immanency in St Faustina’s Diary - **You will prepare the world for My final coming. **(Diary 429) so I don’t believe we could be too far off from it, but I believe God’s time and man’s time are quite different too.

St Peter speaking of the End Times - 2 Peter 3:1-13

with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. - 2 Peter 3:8-9

I hope this has helped

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
I thought maybe the title of your thread was tongue in cheek as well.
 
I thought maybe the title of your thread was tongue in cheek as well.
Maybe a freudian slip? It was so rainy and overcast I couldn’t even tell where the moon was last night! i’ll be in my mid 70’s next time…sigh
 
Maybe a freudian slip? It was so rainy and overcast I couldn’t even tell where the moon was last night! i’ll be in my mid 70’s next time…sigh
I am 63 now so there is a chance I will not be here on earth for the next one.
 
Maybe a freudian slip? It was so rainy and overcast I couldn’t even tell where the moon was last night! i’ll be in my mid 70’s next time…sigh
At the time it was called blood “loon” and it was really snarky. This is the first time I’ve actually caught one of those pages loaded with snark. I never believed it, but I was curious as to what was said about it right after it clearly hadn’t come to pass.
 
At the time it was called blood “loon” and it was really snarky. This is the first time I’ve actually caught one of those pages loaded with snark. I never believed it, but I was curious as to what was said about it right after it clearly hadn’t come to pass.
Funny that, it alwys seems no-one ever comments after a failed prophecy anymore…of course, given the prophecy it would be hard to comment if it had come tompass!
 
Just because ‘something’ didnt happen on a particular date means nothing, even J. Kahn said this, he said from this sept 2015 to next sept 2016, we are in a unique time period, and he is right, just look at the dates and things that have happened in the past, then look at the state of the world currently…you dont have to be brain surgeon to see the house of cards is not very sturdy.
 
Just because ‘something’ didnt happen on a particular date means nothing, even J. Kahn said this, he said from this sept 2015 to next sept 2016, we are in a unique time period, and he is right, just look at the dates and things that have happened in the past, then look at the state of the world currently…you dont have to be brain surgeon to see the house of cards is not very sturdy.
How is the state of the world any worse than it has been in the last 100 years?
 
I am not totally familiar with the details of the “blood moon prophecy”; however, dismissing it because something did not happen on the exact day of an eclipse is not a good reason.

If the prophecy were correct then you would expect something to happen around the time of the astrological event, perhaps within a year or two, not within a day or two.

Again, I do not understand the basis for this “prophecy”, and I am not saying I believe in it.

However, I am concerned about the state of the world and not because of any prophecy or apocalyptic scripture.

There is a paragraph in a book called “The Psychology of War” by Leshan that describes the state of the world the year before the onset of WW I. LeShan says that year world travel and trade had reached an all time high, just before the onset of the greatest war in human history up to that time.

So is there a basis to be concerned? The reason I am concerned is:
  1. Power Law data. Power law data describes a relationship between war casualties and frequency that implies that interstate war acts like earthquakes, where some tension builds up in the international system over time and is released in war, at unpredictable times.
    (Cederman "Modeling the Size of Wars: From Billiard Balls to Sand Piles)
What this means is that the farther you get from the last global war, the higher this “tension” should be.

The last two periods of global wars were the:

Napoleonic Wars: Onset 1803, ~ 5 million casualties

WWI / WW II: Onset 1914, ~100 million casualties.

The last period of global war, WW I / WW II had an intensity of approximately 20X the Napoleonic Wars. If the next global war is much more severe than the last one (past pattern), then we are looking at some sort of nuclear war – unless the system is defused.

My interest is in social systems where some variable builds up over time, and unfortunately, these systems are very resistant to change. The power law data has been examined for European Wars since 1495, and the distribution remains intact over scores of different governments. Other human social systems where “tension” builds up are also highly resistant to change.

However, these systems can be defused, and have been defused from the adoption of only a small number of best practices. When this happens, it is important how many people actually do the best practice. Thus, the mechanism for spreading the “best practice” is very important.

So to diffuse this sort of system you must solve two problems:
  1. What are the small number of best practices that you want to spread?
  2. How are you going to spread the practice?
This is why I support evangelization, because as a believer I believe that we cannot solve this problem without God’s help, and the “falling away” from religion is a major contributor to our demise.

This is also why I am interested in social groups, because we know that social pressure, or the desire to “belong”, has a massive effect on behavior and is likely key to spreading best practice.

It is interesting that Pope Francis moved up the Jubilee year by 10 years from the scheduled 2025 to 2015 beginning this December 8, when the cement wall that blocks the Holy door to St. Peter’s Basilica will be opened. I wonder if he is worried that we may not make it to 2025. Interestingly, everything the Pope is doing seems to support reaching as many people as possible with the Gospel. He is spreading best practice; however, he cannot succeed without help.

Thus, engagement in social groups / media is essential to preventing or mitigating the SHTF in my opinion. However, overcoming the secular pressure to conform and be cool is not easy.

For this to occur, there likely will need to be a “Jonathan” (1 Samuel 14) who leads the way.
When Israel was afraid of the Philistine army, Jonathan and his armor bearer decided to attack the Philistine army by themselves. Initially he killed 20 Philistines, and this made the Philistines afraid, but more importantly, it inspired Israel to fight along side of Jonathan. Obviously, had Israel not joined Jonathan, he would have been cut down. However, he did not care.

Thus, to make evangelization “cool” and spread in social media, we likely need a Jonathan, who will go for it on his own, against impossible odds.

I don’t know a Jonathan and I surely don’t feel like one, so I would not expect anyone else to have this calling.

However, I know where a lot of people like that are. It may be someone who has been in scores of dangerous situations like the Jonathan of the Old Testament. Or it could be someone who has encountered Christ in a special way. We were recently in Rome, and when you hear about and see the art / monuments / churches built to remember the Saints who stood up to the Roman Empire, you see that Jonathans can also emerge from contact with the divine.

One thing we did not expect to find on this trip is a new way to learn about the Christian faith. If you go on tours with a good tour company, many of the guides have done graduate work in art history or theology. They make a living as guides, and they explain why the great masters painted and sculpted what they did. It was fascinating, and an incredible way to learn about Christianity. We used Angel tours in Rome.
 
The present blood moons are separate from that of Rev 6:12. Is one thing meant to remind us of another?

We are witnessing “ways” of “doing prophecy” - in this case several people involved, evolving perspectives. Maybe we shan’t be all that certain which are “proper” ways of doing it - or nearer to proper.

Thank you Dedo for proposing that we ask the Lord to send Jonathans - our fight is not against flesh and blood, simply against things that disadvantage flesh and blood.

God’s meaning is that we should spend a year in especially deep empathy and prayer. We don’t know what it will be like to try to start after that, if we delay starting.
 
Just because something wasn’t obvious doesn’t mean something didn’t happen and I believe it is this way for a reason. As we look in 2 Peter

The Coming Day of the Lord
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  3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation
It was was way too obvious for anything dramatic to happen. Or was it? Pope was here. Talks to U.N. Netanyahu met with Putin. O met with Pope. Putin met with O. Netanyahu talks to U.N. again. Putin invades Syria. Mess gets messier. Gog on the run. Like Fox on the Run but not really.
 
Just because something wasn’t obvious doesn’t mean something didn’t happen and I believe it is this way for a reason. As we look in 2 Peter

The Coming Day of the Lord
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  3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation
It was was way too obvious for anything dramatic to happen. Or was it? Pope was here. Talks to U.N. Netanyahu met with Putin. O met with Pope. Putin met with O. Netanyahu talks to U.N. again. Putin invades Syria. Mess gets messier. Gog on the run. Like Fox on the Run but not really.
“Gog on the Run” is my favorite song by Sweet.

Nothing happened. Nothing is going to happen. I have two thousand years of bogus predictions in re: Armageddon and meaningless portents on my side.
 
Actually something is always happening, no matter what the moon looks like.
 
“Gog on the Run” is my favorite song by Sweet.

Nothing happened. Nothing is going to happen. I have two thousand years of bogus predictions in re: Armageddon and meaningless portents on my side.
You been around 2000 yrs.? You would be older than some dirt. Internet has been around what now, one one hundredth that? Which would bring us to Daniel 12 iffin you dare continue some more loonacy. How is Armageddon not going to happen? It has to. I was more of the “Ballroom Blitz” guy. So maybe I’m a little crazy, but like a fox. Not on the run.
 
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