Body and Blood Question?

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I, as a Catholic, do not take the Blood when I receive Eucharist. I never have. I was wondering if there is actual alcohol in the wine or not? 🤷

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God one-ups you every time at Mass, so to speak. When we receive the Body of Christ, we receive also the Blood of Christ. In both Body and Blood, we receive Blood and Body.

When the gifts are consecrated, they are no longer bread and wine but Jesus Christ.
 
dancer22 said:
I, as a Catholic, do not take the Blood when I receive Eucharist. I never have. I was wondering if there is actual alcohol in the wine or not? 🤷

thanks 🙂
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Two things:
  1. It is pure fermented wine with no additives, just like Jesus used.
  2. The Body and Blood of Christ are fully present under either “species” (the wine OR the bread). So you DO receive the Body AND Blood even if you do not take any of the wine.
Personally, I do not take the wine either. When I was growing up it was not offered, and I’m just use to doing it that way. Its perfectly alright
 
I went to daily mass at noon today at a chapel I rarely visit. The priest inquired just before communion if there were any extraordinary ministers to assist him. Turns out I was the only one, and I assisted with the Precious Blood of course. There were only about a dozen people at the service and few received from the cup. I don’t drink alcohol and was left finishing the cup afterward. Yes, there is alcohol. 😊 I was a little loopy going back to work. :o

As stated above, you do not miss anything from Jesus by not receiving from the cup, He is fully present in both. Personally I enjoy the sense of communion with my brothers and sisters of Christ when we drink from the same cup. There is personal symbolism in it that is quite meaningful to me but it’s strictly personal, nothing that necessarily makes you closer to Christ.

God Bless
 
dancer22 said:
I, as a Catholic, do not take the Blood when I receive Eucharist. I never have. I was wondering if there is actual alcohol in the wine or not? 🤷

thanks 🙂
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The Blood of Christ still has the same effects on a person that it did when it was actually wine.
 
The answer is yes and no. Yes, in the sense that every possible test we could perform would indicate alcohol (including getting drunk). No, in the sense that the substance is not the universe-stuff of which alcohol is made, but Jesus Christ.
 
Does this raise questions about transubstantiation?

I always receive from the Cup if it’s offered, even while I was pregnant, though I NEVER drank alcohol while pregnant or when I wasn’t sure I wasn’t pregnant.

My younger brother is a SEVERE celiac, but receives the “bread” anyway and never gets sick from it. That much bread should put him in bed for days.

I never thought about transubstantation until this started happening with my little brother…isn’t it changed somehow to become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ? What about miracles like Lanciano? Is there really any bread or wine left?

Doesn’t transubstantiation mean it’s changed, versus “consubstantiation”, which is what Luther believed?
 
Hi tijeras, welcome to the forums!
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Does this raise questions about transubstantiation?
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Kind of, in the sense that what Bro Rich and VociMike said above indicate the truth that transubstantiation *does *leave the appearances and effects of wine in place, even though the thing itself (wine) no longer exists, having been changed into the Blood of Christ.

So, yes it might raise questions (like the ones you ask below) but it doesn’t call that truth into question.
tjeras:
I always receive from the Cup if it’s offered, even while I was pregnant, though I NEVER drank alcohol while pregnant or when I wasn’t sure I wasn’t pregnant.
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I’m not sure if the small amount of Precious Blood, and the alcoholic effects that remains in being (though it is not the effect of the Precious Blood, it’s just “alcohol effect” that exists independently of anything!) would be enough to be any concern for your child.
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tijeras:
My younger brother is a SEVERE celiac, but receives the “bread” anyway and never gets sick from it. That much bread should put him in bed for days.
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Now that is really interesting, tijeras. First, I’m sorry that your brother has that cross to bear. But second, what you are describing sounds somewhat like a miraculous intervention. Normally and usually one comes into contact with the properties, appearances and effects of bread (not bread itself, only the properties, appearances, and effects.) If your brother isn’t coming into contact with the effects of bread, it isn’t because of transubstantiation but because of an additional miracle God is supplying.
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tijeras:
I never thought about transubstantation until this started happening with my little brother…isn’t it changed somehow to become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ?
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Yes, it certainly is. But something of the bread remains behind – the appearances (and effects) of bread. Miraculously, those appearances aren’t part of any bread and they aren’t part of Christ. They just are “there”. That is what transubstantiation teaches.
tjeras:
What about miracles like Lanciano? Is there really any bread or wine left?
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At Lanciano, the appearances of bread and wine also changed to appearances of flesh and blood. That was an additional miracle. But the point to understand is that after the consecration there is never any bread or wine left. What is usually left are the appearances (and effects) of bread and wine. The things that used to have those appearances (the bread and wine) are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ. The appearances of bread and wine are miraculously preserved there. . . but they aren’t bread or wine — and they don’t “belong” to anything.

Is that any help? Do you have any further thoughts?
Welcome to the forums again.

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alright thank you! i was just wondering about that. When i received First Communion the Blood wasn’t offered so I just haven’t ever had it.

Thanks again and God Bless
 
dancer22 said:
alright thank you! i was just wondering about that. When i received First Communion the Blood wasn’t offered so I just haven’t ever had it.

Thanks again and God Bless
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Try not to call it the “Blood”.
The Body and Blood of Christ is fully present in the host, and the Body and Blood of Christ is fully present in the cup. If you receive one or the other, you are receiving both the Body AND the Blood of Christ.

If you keep thinking of the cup as “The Blood” you may develop a false understanding of Euchristic theology
 
Catholicc said:
Try not to call it the “Blood”.
The Body and Blood of Christ is fully present in the host, and the Body and Blood of Christ is fully present in the cup. If you receive one or the other, you are receiving both the Body AND the Blood of Christ.

If you keep thinking of the cup as “The Blood” you may develop a false understanding of Euchristic theology
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There is nothing wrong with saying “the chalice contains the Blood of Christ” and that “the Host is the Body of Christ”. As Catholics we understand that mystically the Blood of Christ or the Body of Christ is Christ, Sacramentally present, whole and complete, body, blood, soul and Divinity!
 
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