Bohemian Rhapsody

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Uh, with a band named “Queen”? I was hearing him called gay back in the '70s when I was in elementary school. If pre-pubescent school kids caught on, you can be sure adults were stoking the rumor mill.
I was so naive that years ago a friend was talking about them being gay (even though only Freddie was) and he mentioned the name Queen and I actually believed they named their band Queen because they were British and it was a nod to Queen Elizabeth.
 
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Just a question or ten: Is it likewise fruitless to speculate on our own spiritual condition? If so, then how do we know with any certainty whether we are making headway towards a more positive spiritual state or falling headlong into the abyss?
One presumably has more access to one’s own internal states. And we are not clueless, we simply do not know for certain. Still, the church has very strongly told us that we are to never, ever presume, but to trust in God.
Sure, but that would seem a very inadequate answer because we are responsible to act in the world which means we must constantly be making judgements about our own motivations, the good or bad consequences of our actions and the moral values to be given priority at any one time. This involves both ourselves and those around us because we are social creatures.

I think there is a strong case to be made that by saying, “Do not judge,” Jesus meant something like do not condemn or do not write others off as beyond the possibility of redemption.

Jesus also said not to judge by appearances, but by right judgement.

John 7:24 English Standard Version (ESV)
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

This seems to imply we are, indeed, permitted to judge, but rightly, which supports my first point.

In any case, my post wasn’t directed at you, it was in response to this one…
Hence, the most important thing about him for us, as faithful, non-judgmental persons, is his generosity in sharing his musical talent with us.
The implication being that if we are faithful, we are “non-judgmental,” whatever that means, which I suspect is incorrect. My post was to get @kill51 to flesh out what he meant by non-judgmental.
 
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was so naive that years ago a friend was talking about them being gay (even though only Freddie was) and he mentioned the name Queen and I actually believed they named their band Queen because they were British and it was a nod to Queen Elizabeth.
I thought that too. In the 1970s, most people outside New York City and San Francisco didn’t understand gay references (we didn’t even use the word “gay”, it was still “queer”). Their hit song “Killer Queen” also seemed to be about a woman. And my friends and I were only about 15 when the band was popular, so if we were a bit ignorant and naive, it comes with the age.

Also, ALL of the glam groups of that era acted pretty fey, but most of those guys were not gay. As discussed above, three members of Queen were straight and going around with women. The Sweet was another popular band where at least some of the members looked gay but they were all straight. Even David Bowie was married to a woman. I personally dated men around that time who were all done up glam to look gay but were not. The guy who I knew who did turn out to be gay, you never would have guessed, he was very plain.
 
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Yeah, the Glam Rock genre’s bread and butter was androgyny. I didn’t find out Bowie WASN’T gay until the '80s…and I was a huge Bowie fan even back then. It was just generally assumed he was gay. Mott The Hoople’s “All the Young Dudes” (written by Bowie for the Ziggy Stardust album) was just assumed to be a gay anthem (by straits and gays alike)…and it wasn’t about that at all. It was, in fact, about end times laid out in “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars”.
 
There was some motivation for teenage girls to think these guys weren’t gay because a lot of us were attracted to one or more of them. The promo staff at record labels and zines would play up their heterosexuality too. Nowadays it’s more likely they would be marketed as gay or bi.
 
Mine neither to be honest.
I like the instrumentals but pretty much hate that type of singing.
 
I think it used to be but lately there are some good Christian songs coming out (in my view) but it is a bit like finding a needle in a haystack.
Personally I like Lauren Daigle and some Hawaiian traditional gospel music.


 
Yeah, the Glam Rock genre’s bread and butter was androgyny. I didn’t find out Bowie WASN’T gay until the '80s…and I was a huge Bowie fan even back then. It was just generally assumed he was gay. Mott The Hoople’s “All the Young Dudes” (written by Bowie for the Ziggy Stardust album) was just assumed to be a gay anthem (by straits and gays alike)…and it wasn’t about that at all. It was, in fact, about end times laid out in “The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars”.
I just read a book about the model Gia Carangi and it detailed how she and her friends idolized Bowie for his gay persona (which they later found out not to be true). I guess it was pretty disillusioning for them.
 
This prepubescent school kid certainly did … well, maybe not right at first but well before he officially ‘came out’.
 
wow. Someones voice is more important than any moral way they lived their life?

I have no idea who this gentleman is but your remark caught me off guard especially that it has so many hearts. If I were a famous opera singer but lived my life in a way that went against God but pleased the world I don’t think that’s a good thing.
I must be missing something.
 
What about it just being a matter of taste? I have no taste for these kinds of movies, nor star trek ones. Why are you judging?
 
We ALL live our lives in ways that don’t please God … each and every one of us …

I would hope that people don’t dismiss the good and positive things I have to offer just because, like any human being, I am a flawed sinner.
 
me too, but it almost sounded like as long as someone has a good talent that’s all about the person that mattered. If I were a skilled orator, and famously so,but influenced people to do things contrary to moral law I should be celebrated for my oratory skills nonetheless?
 
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It’s not like Freddie sang songs glorifying gay sex, simulated sex acts on stage or (as far as I remember) dished out salacious details of his private life in the tabloids for public consumption. For a public figure he seems to have actually been fairly private and discreet. So I doubt, despite the fact that people know he was gay/bi, his sexuality was a huge influence on anyone except those who knew him well.
 
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ok we’ll I certainly don’t know about this individual as much as you, but I was speaking in general terns.
 
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