Is the name of the book “Misquoting Jesus”? I’m a little confused.
What is the books name?
Yep, that’s the book. I found it fascinating as well. Although he’s not Catholic, I found that he is making a good case for why you need an authority such as the Pope at the head of the Church. It certainly doesn’t support anything sola scriptura.
From what I can tell he says that scripture copiers accidentally and purposefully altered the texts of the NT to support doctrine.
This is an accurate characterization of the book. I found it much more interesting than some of the folks on Amazon, but then again, anyone can post a review to amazon and say anything they want. I found it interesting and it actually helped my faith. I was just wondering if any other Catholics found that it enhanced their faith at all.
I don’t think Dr. Ehrman is an atheist. If I’m not mistaken he considers himself an agnostic. Not sure if its the theistic or atheistic kind.
Yes, the last I saw he considered himself an agnostic.
In a debate with Dinesh D’souza, he called himself an agnostic; it’s true, as he didn’t discount that a God might have started the universe and left.* But he capitulated that he’s a practical atheist.* His replies in the debate were from an entirely rationalists perspective as well.* You can find the debate on YouTube.
Why would you find a man’s effort to discount the Sacred Scriptures, the texts that your own Church proclaimed as the inerrant word of God, as forgeries? This truly amazes me.
Wow. And some Catholics find this interesting. It’s always wise to determine on which side of the fence someone is sitting before they tell you where they stand. We know where Mr. Erhman sits. I am in complete agreement with the person quoted as to the effect of the Scriptures and the Church in general on society. It was an incredibly positive effect. I will also take the word of my Church as to the veracity of the documents over any one person’s opinion. So there!
I’m sorry you are so angry about the book. It’s not exactly that we find it interesting as much as some of us wish to know what is being said outside of our circles so that we know how to defend against it. I am very interested in reading other literature so that I know what is being said about our faith. However, this book in particular actually strengthened my Catholic faith and I was curious if anyone had a simiar experience.Wow. And some Catholics find this interesting. It’s always wise to determine on which side of the fence someone is sitting before they tell you where they stand. We know where Mr. Erhman sits. I am in complete agreement with the person quoted as to the effect of the Scriptures and the Church in general on society. It was an incredibly positive effect. I will also take the word of my Church as to the veracity of the documents over any one person’s opinion. So there!
I don’t think the poster is backing Scriptures as forgeries. However, when we look at the absence of the original manuscripts outside the Catholic Church, it is very difficult (If not impossible) to understand the validity of Scriptures by themselves, from a secular (Maybe even academic) point of view.Why would you find a man’s effort to discount the Sacred Scriptures, the texts that your own Church proclaimed as the inerrant word of God, as forgeries? This truly amazes me.
) is that the poster is happy and grateful for the Catholic Church continued presence since our Lord walked the earth in human form and that he left us with His disciples to establish His Church.I am glad you could, so eloquently, state what I could not. That is EXACTLY what I was trying to say!I don’t think the poster is backing Scriptures as forgeries. However, when we look at the absence of the original manuscripts outside the Catholic Church, it is very difficult (If not impossible) to understand the validity of Scriptures by themselves, from a secular (Maybe even academic) point of view.
However, what I can gather (read “assume”
Without the Church, people would be left with a collection of scrolls and wild guesses as to what is and isn’t Scripture. The Gospel of Thomas, The Shepherd of Hermas, and who knows what other books would be considered Scriptures.
If we take away the Catholic Church and Its Councils we would have no idea. No matter how much some people want to deny it and how many “what if’s”,
it is what it is.
It was through the Church that we learned what is Scriptures.
Prof Story’s response when Ehrman pointed this out was;
I’m sure Catholic scholars have addressed this and other passages.