Book Of Mormon Evidences In Ancient America

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Through the refiner’s fire.
Yes, I got very into the bible, and learned that the principles in there were VERY important, and that there are people who horribly distort and misuse the scriptures (wresting them to their own destruction). In other words, the Mormons took what was left of my innocence. It motivated me to learn the bible deeply, from the ground up with no pre-conceived notions, and that was what eventually (after 14 years) led me to the Catholic Faith.
 
I think you should stop comparing us to felons and delinquents. I am neither and it’s getting old real fast.
The only vandals I knew in high school were two mormon boys.

I would think with the attitude of the Mormons I’ve seen on here; that being a Mormon would be hell on earth. I went to Boy Scouts at the Mormon Church, so being a Mormon kid didn’t seem bad. But being an adult Mormon…
 
The only vandals I knew in high school were two mormon boys.

I would think with the attitude of the Mormons I’ve seen on here; that being a Mormon would be hell on earth. I went to Boy Scouts at the Mormon Church, so being a Mormon kid didn’t seem bad. But being an adult Mormon…
You can see on this thread and others that the Mormon view of non-Mormons is that we are all corrupt, perverted, drunken, drug-addicted felons who don’t love their families.

No wonder so many Mormons are terrified to leave the church even though they know it is false…
 
Yeah, that is what my little writing project has done for me. Rebuild from the ground up. Learning to think for myself brought me closer to the church.
 
Yeah, that is what my little writing project has done for me. Rebuild from the ground up. Learning to think for myself brought me closer to the church.
I hope to be able to read the finished product.

God bless you, Jerusha.
 
Not everyone Paul. I will bet that today you could even go back to your old SP and he would greet you warmly.
Probably not. That was 23 years ago and he was about 70 years old and not in the best of health. I’m sure he reached room tempurature many years ago. 🙂

Please stop assuming that I carry some angst about the people who ex’d me. It truly doesn’t matter to me. What does matter to me is that I am thankful to be out of the cult and that the Mormons are still waging an organized war on true Christianity in general and on Catholicism in particular.

I am living in the present. The battle is now.
 
I think you should stop comparing us to felons and delinquents. I am neither and it’s getting old real fast.
Do you think any of us are much different than the people who get into trouble with the law? We are not. The difference is the choices we make. They make them because they don’t know better or are under the influence. Hopefully we make them in a more sober state of mind. But we all face much the same challenges. If I did a risk/needs assessment on any of us at a low point in our lives I will bet you a buck there wouldn’t be noticable difference between us and the kid who was in trouble for the first time in his life. I know so. Don’t get crankie. Its hard on your heart.
 
Probably not. That was 23 years ago and he was about 70 years old and not in the best of health. I’m sure he reached room tempurature many years ago. 🙂

Please stop assuming that I carry some angst about the people who ex’d me. It truly doesn’t matter to me. What does matter to me is that I am thankful to be out of the cult and that the Mormons are still waging an organized war on true Christianity in general and on Catholicism in particular.

I am living in the present. The battle is now.
Paul
No one is out to get Catholicism.
 
Paul
No one is out to get Catholicism.
Those 50,000 missionaries out there knocking on doors trying to convince Christians that there beliefs are an abomination - they are out to steal sheep from the Catholic Church. Don’t lie and say they are not.

When Ezra Taft Benson came to visit our mission in 1977, he said “We are not here to preach to the Buddhists, we are here for the Christians”.
 
The only vandals I knew in high school were two mormon boys.

I would think with the attitude of the Mormons I’ve seen on here; that being a Mormon would be hell on earth. I went to Boy Scouts at the Mormon Church, so being a Mormon kid didn’t seem bad. But being an adult Mormon…
Well if the place burns down we need fall guy.:tiphat: thank you very much.

*"When Ezra Taft Benson came to visit our mission in 1977, he said “We are not here to preach to the Buddhists, we are here for the Christians”. * Absolutely. The pickins are easier. Catholics are easier to convert its true. You should take better care of them. :extrahappy:

Seriously, why do you think they convert in such large numbers?
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Those 50,000 missionaries out there knocking on doors trying to convince Christians that there beliefs are an abomination - they are out to steal sheep from the Catholic Church. Don’t lie and say they are not.
You misunderstand Paul. We are out to get YOU!. We just don’t know where you live so it takes a lot of us.
 
You can see on this thread and others that the Mormon view of non-Mormons is that we are all corrupt, perverted, drunken, drug-addicted felons who don’t love their families.

No wonder so many Mormons are terrified to leave the church even though they know it is false…
No Paul, all we have to do tell them the story and let the Holy Ghost do the rest.
 
No Paul, all we have to do tell them the story and let the Holy Ghost do the rest.
Yep, we told them the story in Venezuela and let the Holy Ghost do the rest. Then we baptized them and gave them the gift of the Holy Ghost. Then two weeks later they usually went inactive and we were hardly able to talk to them again.
 
Comments on the past few posts since I logged on:

LDS culture has some positives. Sobriety is easier. That is why LDS people tend to hit on AA’s to give them the “easier softer way”. Only problem is that it replaces one addiction with another. After all, the whole thing started in an alcoholic family, according to Dan Vogel, and I agree, after having translated I Nephi and II Nephi into plain English. That part is largely autiobiographical.

Of course, I consider the use of medically prescribed psych meds to make people more comfortably within a pathological culture to be substance abuse.

That is why some LDS continue with AA-- to prostelytize and gossip about their targets. I am thankful that I no longer need to attend meetings, because the internet is my support. And I have plenty of years.

And that is one reason why RFM has settled down a lot in the past year. They have been applying the 12 steps to their recovery. I note that many Mormons with a history of a drinking problem do not use the 12 steps, they just stop drinking. It is the act that is the sin. The personality defects that lead to it are usually not addressed. I do see that that is changing in some places.

Oh-- since Paul goes by his own name, and gives his location, I am sure you can track him down. It might take longer with me, but you certainly have the resources. Except the town I live in is knowlegable enough about my “refugee” status that you still would have difficulty. Most areas of Wisconsin are pretty anti-Mormon. You ever heard about the Strangites? 😃 Probably wierder than the Brighamites. And the logging operation during the Nauvoo era? The tribes and their thin-blood relatives are a strong force, too. :cool:

Bart, you mean the Holy Ghost gives them witness that the BOM is a scam? 😃
 
Religion takes faith. That is what I am trying to say. Here is a debate about BoM geography on the mormon apologetic site:

mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=41998&st=0&start=0
The site you referred to answered no questions, and in fact, shows that there is doubt within the LDS church among it’s members. No one can find where the locations mentioned in the BOM are and have not found any definitive evidence anywhere to suggest any event or huge battle took place there.

Since we are swapping videos, please look at this one: youtube.com/watch?v=G1mFdO1wB08 .

As you can see from the video and the people interviewed, all surrounding people and archaeological evidence found indicate that the people were much more primitive and only used stone tools and weapons. No metal mining. (This is just ONE example.)

The video also shows why finding out if the BOM was historical (as it is claimed to be) is so important as it claims to be comparable to the Bible.
(Sorry for the video being so long, but it is worth the time)👍
 
Yep, we told them the story in Venezuela and let the Holy Ghost do the rest. Then we baptized them and gave them the gift of the Holy Ghost. Then two weeks later they usually went inactive and we were hardly able to talk to them again.
Apparantly not all of them.
 
The church that goes for quality, not quantity.

Those darn inactive converts lack the quality of ambition to be a god.
 
The absolute Biggest problem with mormons is this. Mormons and Every one who tryes to Poach people from Christ one and Only true Church are gonna get worse then hell. Jesus Said (refering to His children) That if anyone makes of these little ones stumble, It would be better for him to tie a mill stone around his neck and jump into the ocean then to stand on Judgment day.

The Catholic Church is the Only True, church, Protestants got it half way and i pray every day for our Wayward cousins, every one else is living a lie, and when they steal Children from God, God is personaly Gonna seek you out and Throw you in the pit of Hell himself and he will be crying, because he has to punish people he loves, because they killed and murdered and Ra.ped his children.
 
The absolute Biggest problem with mormons is this. Mormons and Every one who tryes to Poach people from Christ one and Only true Church are gonna get worse then hell. Jesus Said (refering to His children) That if anyone makes of these little ones stumble, It would be better for him to tie a mill stone around his neck and jump into the ocean then to stand on Judgment day.

The Catholic Church is the Only True, church, Protestants got it half way and i pray every day for our Wayward cousins, every one else is living a lie, and when they steal Children from God, God is personaly Gonna seek you out and Throw you in the pit of Hell himself and he will be crying, because he has to punish people he loves, because they killed and murdered and Ra.ped his children.
And this applies, to Abortionis and people who practice Contraception with out seeking forgiveness and being full repentence. and People who allow Abortion and COntraception to happen.
 
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