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I could use some book recommendations. I’m thinking about reading Ascent of Mt Carmel next. Any thoughts? I had thought about reading Dark Night, because the title seems to relate to where I’m at right now, but I’ve seen people recommend Ascent first. I need some help making sense of my suffering -spiritual, not physical. I’ve been pretty devout since converting in '06. The world around me right now is a mess, and I’m struggling to hold on to hope.
 
Well you can read them in either order, Ascent is first in order, I happened to read them reversed myself and found Dark Night easier to read oddly enough, which then made me want to read Ascent more even though it was a little more difficult for me.

I would say also read, ‘Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence’, this is a great relief to bearing the cross because it teaches trust in the one who gives it to you.
 
I could use some book recommendations. I’m thinking about reading Ascent of Mt Carmel next. Any thoughts? I had thought about reading Dark Night, because the title seems to relate to where I’m at right now, but I’ve seen people recommend Ascent first. I need some help making sense of my suffering -spiritual, not physical. I’ve been pretty devout since converting in '06. The world around me right now is a mess, and I’m struggling to hold on to hope.
I’m sure others can come up with some good book recommendations, but I would like to offer this site:

advancedchristianity.com/

The MP3’s made from cassette tapes of Father Venard Poslusney, O.Carm. can be helpful to you.,
Each conference is about 45 minutes, and because they are not professionally made, they end abruptly during the question and answer period. If you are interested, be sure to read his short biography.

advancedchristianity.com/

There are some MP3s on “The Dark Night of the Soul”, and some on “The Spiritual Cancticle”.

His other spiritual direction MPs are based on the writings of St. John of the Cross. (Attaining Spiritual Maturity, etc.)
 
Have you ever read Henry Nouwen’s “Return of the Prodigal Son?” If not, it’s certainly an excellent work. It’s extremely well written, is very genuine, is a very interesting read, and it pretty much can be related to anyone. It does not specifically deal with suffering per se, but it does talk a lot of emotional ups and downs, specifically related to the older son.
 
Have you ever read Henry Nouwen’s “Return of the Prodigal Son?” If not, it’s certainly an excellent work. It’s extremely well written, is very genuine, is a very interesting read, and it pretty much can be related to anyone. It does not specifically deal with suffering per se, but it does talk a lot of emotional ups and downs, specifically related to the older son.
OH YES! Henri Nouwen’s works are wonderful! Good recommendation!
 
Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s books might be helpful. One book is on the discernment of spirits.

A good spiritual director would be most helpful to you, perhaps.

Also, there is the second half of St. Therese’s book, “Story of a Soul” that deals with great spiritual darkness and suffering, and also, the recent book(s) about Mother Theresa’s great spiritual suffering.

I would say that many do not understand what Dark Night of the Soul is all about. It is one of the last phases that souls pass through on their way to the transforming union with God. You maybe be there, but it one of the very highest of the spiritual planes reached. Others may chime in on that.

I have not yet read Dark Night, but I do enjoy reading Ascent of Mount Carmel.

May God Bless You…and by the way, you might find Divine Intimacy, a daily devotional very helpful, it is topical as well as day by day and covers pretty much all the spiritual life, including suffering.
 
I could use some book recommendations. I’m thinking about reading Ascent of Mt Carmel next. Any thoughts? I had thought about reading Dark Night, because the title seems to relate to where I’m at right now, but I’ve seen people recommend Ascent first. I need some help making sense of my suffering -spiritual, not physical. I’ve been pretty devout since converting in '06. The world around me right now is a mess, and I’m struggling to hold on to hope.
I read the Dark Night before reading the Ascent. For someone who is struggling to maintain hope, I highly recommend reading the Dark Night first because, in my case at least, I was not emotionally ready to tackle the work required in the Ascent.

The Dark Night talks about the passive nights explaining what God is doing in the soul and the Ascent discusses the active nights explaining what the soul needs to do as he or she faces the passive nights. This is my take on it, at least.

I think one of the posters mentioned Fr. Timothy Gallagher’s books on the spiritual discernment rules by St. Ignatius of Loyola . These books are also good on how to face the passive nights in a practical way, e.g., “in times of desolation, make no changes”. Frequent desolation is characteristic of the passive night of spirits. So, having this one discernment rule handy is essential to surviving it. In this night, one often suffers great temptations to give up and withdraw from practicing true, self-giving charity toward one’s neighbor as well as reduce or drop one’s daily prayer schedule like the rosary, Mass, and other devotional practices.

Please remember that no one is perfectly holy and we are all on our individual journeys with God. Another poster also recommended Abandonment to the Divine Providence, which is also a great book. The three themes that I recall from this book are first, “things painful to nature are good for the soul.” So, thank God that you are undergoing the mess in which you find yourself. Second, in whatever life situation one finds oneself is God’s will for that person. So, know that God is using this mess for your good and it is God’s will (see Rom 8:28 also).

And, third, one should serve God and neighbor in the “present moment” at all times. This is very difficult to do but is necessary to pull oneself out of the passive night of spirits. This concept is also heavily addressed in the Ascent. I am still working on this one. 🤷 However, I am finding that keeping my mind focused on things that need to be addressed in the present moment alleviates much of my suffering. This requires forgetting all the “what-ifs” and the constant wondering what the other person is thinking.

After all, Sacred Scripture does exhort us to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus and not on any other thing or person including the turmoil that is happening around us and most especially on ourselves (see Mat. 14:28-30; Col. 3:2; and Heb. 12:2). This entails overcoming the tendency to calculate how things impacts one personally whether it is favorable or adverse. The focus, rather, is on how to serve God and neighbor in the present moment and keeping all thoughts there. Furthermore, since both God and neighbor are in the here and now, one can only serve them in the here and now . . . .

Although, I am not sure what your mess entails, here is a quote from Mother Theresa that I find helpful to keep my focus on Jesus:

People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered. Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you. Be honest and sincere anyway.

What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight. Create anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous. Be happy anyway.

The good you do today, will often be forgotten. Do good anyway.

Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give your best anyway.

In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway.

~Mother Teresa

I will pray for you. I really know your pain. Don’t give up. God is with you and is the source of your hope. And, when all seems bleak remember that “hope does not disappoint” (Rm. 5:5). So, as long as you keep persevering and trusting in God, He will resolve this mess that you now face in a way that it is undeniably He (see Ps. 37:4; Sirach 2).

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I could use some book recommendations. I’m thinking about reading Ascent of Mt Carmel next. Any thoughts? I had thought about reading Dark Night, because the title seems to relate to where I’m at right now, but I’ve seen people recommend Ascent first. I need some help making sense of my suffering -spiritual, not physical. I’ve been pretty devout since converting in '06. The world around me right now is a mess, and I’m struggling to hold on to hope.
I recommend getting the collected works in hardcover, and then buying some Brodart covers or having a bookstore put one over the dust jacket for you. This book is a fantastic bargain, and you’ll carry it around with you for the rest of your lifetime. Honestly, you can’t go wrong with this.

icspublications.org/bookstore/cross/b_cross01.html

amazon.com/Brodart-Just-A-Fold-Archival-Book-Covers/dp/B0033766GE
 
Thanks for the replies. I really appreciate it. I’m going with Abandonment to Divine Providence for now. I think that’s exactly what I need. I’ve made note of all the other suggestions. I read a lot during down time at work, so I’ll get to them eventually.
 
Abandonment is one of my favorites. I have it on CD and often listen to it while I’m in the car. I would encourage you to get the one that includes Caussade’s letters. They are very edifying.
 
That’s the version I got. I found a few websites that offer it as a free download, so I’ve been reading it on my phone.
 
About spiritual directors…I would love to have one. I have no idea how to.go about finding one. I’m pretty sure our parish priest is too busy with multiple assignments. I also definitely can’t afford to pay for one right now. Any advice there?
 
About spiritual directors…I would love to have one. I have no idea how to.go about finding one. I’m pretty sure our parish priest is too busy with multiple assignments. I also definitely can’t afford to pay for one right now. Any advice there?
You could start a new thread asking for suggestions
for spiritual directors (online or) in your area.🙂
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