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Yes, that makes sense Constantine it would be very difficult to group them together. Perhaps in the future they will create one with in depth detail about each. Also thank you Vico these were unknown to me.
Awesome! Happy swimming! I’ve found gems, through my local libraries. I’m more or less scuba diving through Eastern waters. Just watching out for jealous sharks, along the way…Just ordered The Orthodox Way and considering Archbishop Raya’s book next…
Thanks for the suggestions
Fr. Stephen Freeman loves this book. I think that is a must read. What is the topic by the way? Is it general Orthodox spirituality or something more specific?I’m borrowing Bread, Wine, and Oil by Fr Meletios Webber
Real quickly, it’s kind of like general spirituality, but gets into deeper things about the mind and heart. I’ll have to finish it to give it a better picture of what it really conveys. Schmemann’s book on Liturgy and Life is like a great explanation of what goes on in the divine liturgy, and the reasons behind those happenings. Fr Webber approaches a similar topic, in a different perspective, if I can say such, at this point.Fr. Stephen Freeman loves this book. I think that is a must read. What is the topic by the way? Is it general Orthodox spirituality or something more specific?
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SWEET!!! I just found a Kindle Edition of this one. This is next on my to-read list![]()
I’m currently reading the book I posted earlier about the Orthodox Church. It’s a lengthy book, I’m just at the introduction to the different autocephalous Churches.Real quickly, it’s kind of like general spirituality, but gets into deeper things about the mind and heart. I’ll have to finish it to give it a better picture of what it really conveys. Schmemann’s book on Liturgy and Life is like a great explanation of what goes on in the divine liturgy, and the reasons behind those happenings. Fr Webber approaches a similar topic, in a different perspective, if I can say such, at this point.
Something to keep in mind. However, I do have a couple of books on Divine Liturgy to keep my occupied, to be honest. I’m almost done with Schmemann’s Liturgy and Life: Christian Development through Liturgical Worship (title?), one by Bishop Shegy(sp?), and I think Bread, Wine, and Oil are kind of similar in that sense. I also did pick up Meyendorff’s Living Traditions. I haven’t cracked it open, so I’ll see if it’s centered around the liturgy, also, or not. Oh yeah, blessed reverend Kucharek’s Byzantine Catechism for Adults has a little primer on liturgy, too.I’m currently reading the book I posted earlier about the Orthodox Church. It’s a lengthy book, I’m just at the introduction to the different autocephalous Churches.
I’ve read a book from Fr. Lawrence Farley regarding the Divine Liturgy. It’s excellent and a good introduction. It’s not too deeply theological and perfect as an intro for those curious or just beginning their Eastern experience:
conciliarpress.com/products/Let-Us-Attend%21-A-Journey-Through-the-Orthodox-Divine-Liturgy.html
You may have more advanced books on the Liturgy that you may think Fr. Lawrence’s book is very simple. Like I said, it is meant for beginners. But I posted it anyway for those who may be interested. Fr. Lawrence did dedicate the book to Fr. Alexander Schmemann. I am not sure what their relationship is, if he’s sort of a disciple or just a big fan. I will ask him tomorrow.Something to keep in mind. However, I do have a couple of books on Divine Liturgy to keep my occupied, to be honest. I’m almost done with Schmemann’s Liturgy and Life: Christian Development through Liturgical Worship (title?), one by Bishop Shegy(sp?), and I think Bread, Wine, and Oil are kind of similar in that sense. I also did pick up Meyendorff’s Living Traditions. I haven’t cracked it open, so I’ll see if it’s centered around the liturgy, also, or not. Oh yeah, blessed reverend Kucharek’s Byzantine Catechism for Adults has a little primer on liturgy, too.
I started digging Schmemann’s stuff, at the first flap. I did pick up his book, at the local OCA parish, if I am able to pick one up for you, I’ll be sure to do so. I’ll PM you, if I got it (#1), and then get your mailing info (#2) if you want.You may have more advanced books on the Liturgy that you may think Fr. Lawrence’s book is very simple. Like I said, it is meant for beginners. But I posted it anyway for those who may be interested. Fr. Lawrence did dedicate the book to Fr. Alexander Schmemann. I am not sure what their relationship is, if he’s sort of a disciple or just a big fan. I will ask him tomorrow.
Aw, thanks. I think I’ll go through my backlog for now. And I’m a little shy to ask you to spend money on meI started digging Schmemann’s stuff, at the first flap. I did pick up his book, at the local OCA parish, if I am able to pick one up for you, I’ll be sure to do so. I’ll PM you, if I got it (#1), and then get your mailing info (#2) if you want.
No worries, brother. Besides, I’d feel the same way, if I was in your shoes. It’s a cultural trait, di’ ba?Aw, thanks. I think I’ll go through my backlog for now. And I’m a little shy to ask you to spend money on me
My focus and interest now is Sacramental theology. Your recommendation of Bread and Water, Oil and Wine is perfect. But I will go through my current book, The Orthodox Church: An Introduction to its History, Doctrine, and Spiritual Culture by John Anthony McGuckin.
SWEET! I thought I was alone in the worldNo worries, brother. Besides, I’d feel the same way, if I was in your shoes. It’s a cultural trait, di’ ba?![]()
In what sense? I can only guess as to which levels you’re referring.SWEET! I thought I was alone in the world![]()
I mean, there aren’t that many Eastern Catholics in the world. So far I only know of one on my list of Facebook friends. There are a few who are Orthodox who go to the Orthodox Church in Paranaque.In what sense? I can only guess as to which levels you’re referring.
Perhaps prior to the Spanish occupation starting in the 1500’s you might have been right. Today, I don’t think so.I think the Byzantine faith would suit Filipinos more.
I think it suits us, still. Just look at brother Constantine, and me; and I can’t forget brother Crescentius, who’s still based in the Fatherland, a place a left when I was an infant. If you ever see the commemoration of certain feasts, partidcularly nine days before Christmas; and Holy week, I think Byzantine traditions would suit the people just finePerhaps prior to the Spanish occupation starting in the 1500’s you might have been right. Today, I don’t think so.
Hmmm… My aunt/godmother is in that town. If I ever get around to visiting the fatherland, sooner than later, I’ll definitely check that place out.I mean, there aren’t that many Eastern Catholics in the world. So far I only know of one on my list of Facebook friends. There are a few who are Orthodox who go to the Orthodox Church in Paranaque.
I think the Byzantine faith would suit Filipinos more.
Light For Life (three Byzantine catechesis books):I’ve got a growing interest in Eastern Catholicism/Orthodoxy. Does anyone have books they would recommend as an introduction to Eastern liturgy, spirituality, history, etc? Thanks!
Thanks!You can read it here:
archive.org/details/fathersofthechur009511mbp
I’m sure he did.Aw, Vico, you responded to him after he got banned. Or maybe he’s still reading this as a guest.
The title is Bread & Water, Wine & Oil: An Orthodox Christian Experience of God. I’ve enthusiastically recommended it here in the past as a good basic book about the Eastern world view and the Holy Mysteries. Ever since things blew up a few months ago at the monastery where Fr Webber is abbot I have taken a big step backwards from him. That doesn’t mean the book isn’t useful. Just leave it there.Awesome! Happy swimming! I’ve found gems, through my local libraries. I’m more or less scuba diving through Eastern waters. Just watching out for jealous sharks, along the way…
I’m borrowing Bread, Wine, and Oil by Fr Meletios Webber, through an Orthodox friend. He, and I’m also going to buy copies of His Broken Body, by Fr. Lawrence Cross (?).
The keynote speaker Fr. Robert F. Taft, S.J.
The Rt. Rev. Archimandrite Job (Getcha)—former Dean of St. Sergius Theological Institute, Paris;
The Rev. Dr. Stephanos Alexopoulos—Professor at the International Center for Hellenic and Mediterranean Studies, Athens, Greece;
Sr. Vassa Larin, nun of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad; currently teaching Liturgical Studies at the University of Vienna;
Dr. Bryan D. Spinks—Professor of Liturgical Studies, Yale Divinity School;
Dr. Michael Aune—Dean of the Faculty, Dean of the Chapel, Professor of Liturgical and Historical Studies at Pacific Lutheran Seminary, and Core Doctoral Faculty in Liturgical Studies at General Theological Union;
Dr. David W. Fagerberg—Associate Professor in the Department of Theology, University of Notre Dame.
Thanks, and duly noted, sister 5LoavesThe title is Bread & Water, Wine & Oil: An Orthodox Christian Experience of God. I’ve enthusiastically recommended it here in the past as a good basic book about the Eastern world view and the Holy Mysteries. Ever since things blew up a few months ago at the monastery where Fr Webber is abbot I have taken a big step backwards from him. That doesn’t mean the book isn’t useful. Just leave it there.
Ancient Faith Presents this week interviewed Fr. Laurent Cleenewerck, author of His Broken Body: Understanding and Healing the Schism Between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches.
I think someone also mentioned liturgical theology. The SVS International Liturgical Symposium back in 2009 at St Vlad’s on the 25th anniversary of the repose of +Fr Alexander Schmemann, titled “The Past and Future of Liturgical Theology: Celebrating the Legacy of Father Alexander Schmemann,” is archived on AFR including the Q&A after each lecture. Stellar scholars East and West on the topic.