Both Byzantine and Roman rites

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Do I have to choose one? Can I go to both the Roman mass and the Divine Liturgy? Can I use a combination of both spiritualities, or do I have to choose one rite?
 
You have to add your birth month to your birth day and take its reciprocal, then take the cube root of that number. That’s the percentage of the time you have to go to Roman mass. For example, if you were born on March 23rd (3/23):
2+23 = 26
1/26 = 0.0385
0.0385^0.33 = 33.76% of the time you have to go to the Roman mass.

Nah I’m just kidding. They’re both valid masses and both fulfill your obligations.
 
A Catholic may go to any Mass or Divine Liturgy celebrated by a church in communion with Rome. This means you can freely attend either Roman Mass or Byzantine Divine Liturgy, and either one will fulfill your Sunday obligation.

When you convert to Catholic, you do have to choose one rite, or if you’re baptized as a baby you will be in the rite where your parents had you baptized. However, this doesn’t affect your ability to attend the Mass or the Divine Liturgy - any Catholic from any rite can still go to either one. I am a Latin Rite so I mostly go to the “Roman Mass” as you call it, but I have been to Divine Liturgy of other Catholic churches and will probably go to a Byzantine one soon.
 
I attend Roman rite masses but I have a growing interest in the Byzantine rite and have done some research into their rite out of interest and I’ve also watched multiple Byzantine Divine Liturgies on YouTube. I hope to attend one in person soon.

Side note - Matt Fradd is a Byzantine Catholic 😛
 
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If I end up converting it’ll probably be into the Ordinariate, so I’d primarily attend the Anglican rite mass.
 
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s my understanding the Ordinariate is just a diocese created specifically to serve Anglicans who convert and using the special Ordinariate form of the Mass. Therefore, the Ordinariate of the Chair of St Peter is just a diocese of the Roman (Latin) Church.

I realize the use of the word “Rite” is a bit confusing, but Byzantine Rite Catholics are members of other Catholic churches in communion with Rome, not just Latin Catholics using a different rite of Mass. The distinction can be important for purposes of getting married to someone from a different Catholic church and selecting the church into which babies will be baptized, etc. Also, the Anglican Ordinariate where I live has Masses right in the Archdiocesan Cathedral, whereas you would not find a Byzantine Rite Divine Liturgy happening in there.

There are several approved worship rites within the Latin (Roman) Church, which would include the OF, EF, Ordinariate and I think there are a couple more not in wide use (Ambrosian?)

Somebody correct me please if I’m wrong on any of this.
 
Dunno, this is above my pay grade at this point. You are correct about the institutional structure of the Ordinariate, and as I understand it only the Ordinariate can use Divine Worship.
 
Is this true? Why can priests then be bi -ritual? Is it different for them, or is only bishops who can be bi-ritual?
 
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This only applies if you are canonically Latin. If canonically Byzantine, of any variety, you have to use the Cappadocian formula, which factors in leap years and gets pretty complicated. Don’t even get me started on those who are canonically Syriac or Coptic…
 
And, if you’re Anglican Ordinariate, the time is based off of Queen Elizabeth’s birthday and the tide of the Thames…
 
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And, if you’re Anglican Ordinariate, the time is based off of Queen Elizabeth’s birthday and the tide of the Thames…
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Well, only if you were born after 1952. If you were born prior to 1952, you still have to use King George’s birthday…
 
I think a bishop may celebrate all Masses and Divine Liturgies of all the Churches in communion with Rome but will only be ordained as a bishop in one of the Churches. A priest may be bi-ritual and celebrate for example the Maronite or other Eastern Divine Liturgi as well as the Latin.
 
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When you convert to Catholic, you do have to choose one rite, or if you’re baptized as a baby you will be in the rite where your parents had you baptized.
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That depends.

If you con err from non-christianity, you choose. If you convert from non-Catholic Christianity, you are automatically enrolled in the “nearest” Catholic ritual church–and for all Protestants, that is the Roman rite. You may then petition to change.

If the father of a baptized child is Catholic, the default is to his church (and to the mothers if he is not). However, at time of baptism, the parents may request enrollment in any ritual church, the common case being RC parents attending a byzantine Catholic parish and requesting the child be enrolled there, even though they haven’t themselves formally switched.

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