Bow or Kneel?

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So an Orthodox Catholic will bow instead of genuflect, right?
And their churches have icons?

I am slightly confused about the differences between the two branches.
Feel free to fill me in on the comparision/contrast between Eastern Catholicism and Traditional Catholicism. 👍👍

Thanks,
Laura
 
Laura15 said:
So an Orthodox Catholic will bow instead of genuflect, right?
And their churches have icons?

I am slightly confused about the differences between the two branches.
Feel free to fill me in on the comparision/contrast between Eastern Catholicism and Traditional Catholicism. 👍👍

Thanks,
Laura
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A curious question indeed. I feel it somehow relates to the the particular traditions of both Churches, yet the intent is the same. The sad thing is, today, I see very little of either in most parishes i have attended. 😦
 
I look around and if the Blessed Sacrament is present I genuflect. If it isn’t, I bow to the altar.
 
Since this is the Eastern Catholic forum, the proper way when entering a Byzantine parish is to make a sign of the cross, then a profound bow. Which is #3 in this image

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You bet I genuflect! And cross myself. It’s the way I was raised!
 
If the Blessed Sacrament is exposed, I kneel on both knees and lower my head and torso. If It is reserved in the tabernacle, I genuflect. If there is an altar without the Eucharist present, I bow.
 
I think that this question was probably intended for Eastern Catholics under the Pope of Rome, and I do think it would be interesting to find our what they actually do.

Do they follow the directives and traditional practices of the early church? … or have they embraced the Latin rite practice since coming under Papal authority?

Unfortunately, the results of this poll appear to be inconclusive and unusable, with a large number of Latin rite Christians responding and very few self-identified Eastern rite Catholics under the Pope responding…
 
Laura15 said:
So an Orthodox Catholic will bow instead of genuflect, right?
And their churches have icons?

I am slightly confused about the differences between the two branches.
Feel free to fill me in on the comparision/contrast between Eastern Catholicism and Traditional Catholicism. 👍👍

Thanks,
Laura
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Eastern Catholicism*** IS ***traditional Catholicism.

At least, it has tried to be … 😊
 
In the Roman Church you should genuflect if you are able, otherwise bow. In our eastern church, you make a deep bow, touch the floor if you are able and cross yourself. Also in our Byzantine Catholic Church, you are supposed to stand during the entire divine liturgy if you are able. There are chairs for those who are not able. In the Roman Church, you should bless yourself with holy water on entering the Church but should not do so on leaving the Church. In the Byzantine Church one should kiss both Icons of the season on entering the Church, they should not be kissed on leaving.
 
Do you bow before entering the pews?
Do you genuflect (kneel) before entering the pews?
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Entering pews? Was there pews in 19th Century Russia? Is outrage! 😃

Enter the temple. Venerate the festal icon, light candle. Venerate the Christ God icon, light candle. Bow crossing before the Royal Doors/the tabernacle. Venerate the Mother of God icon, light candle. Bow to anyone present in the temple, south, north. Venerate various other icons. Sundays, stand for the next hour and a half, sign of the cross and bow 836 times. 🙂
 
5Loaves said:
Entering pews? Was there pews in 19th Century Russia? Is outrage! 😃

Enter the temple. Venerate the festal icon, light candle. Venerate the Christ God icon, light candle. Venerate the Mother of God icon, light candle. Bow to anyone present in the temple, south, north. Venerate various other icons. Sundays, stand for the next hour and a half, sign of the cross and bow 836 times. 🙂
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Did you really count?
 
Hesychios said:
I think that this question was probably intended for Eastern Catholics under the Pope of Rome, and I do think it would be interesting to find our what they actually do.

Do they follow the directives and traditional practices of the early church? … or have they embraced the Latin rite practice since coming under Papal authority?

Unfortunately, the results of this poll appear to be inconclusive and unusable, with a large number of Latin rite Christians responding and very few self-identified Eastern rite Catholics under the Pope responding…
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Of course Latin Catholics can’t resist the question 😉
 
rdorseyhsd said:
In the Roman Church you should genuflect if you are able, otherwise bow.
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Whether to genuflect when entering a pew in a Latin Church I believe depends upon whether the tabernacle with the blessed sacrament is present since one genuflects to the real presence. One bows to the altar. A number of Latin Churches I have been in the tabernacle is in a separate chapel.
 
"On the Lord’s Day (i.e. Sunday) we consider it improper to fast or to kneel; and we also enjoy this freedom from Pascha until Pentecost"
Tertullian - circa 200AD

Canon XX
Since there are some who kneel on Sunday and in the days of Pentecost, therefore, to the intent that all things may be uniformly observed everywhere, it seems good to the holy Synod that prayer be made to God standing.
First Holy Ecumenical Council at Nicea - 325AD
 
5Loaves said:
Enter the temple. Venerate the festal icon, light candle. Venerate the Christ God icon, light candle. Bow crossing before the Royal Doors/the tabernacle. Venerate the Mother of God icon, light candle. Bow to anyone present in the temple, south, north. Venerate various other icons. Sundays, stand for the next hour and a half, sign of the cross and bow 836 times. 🙂
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Just to clarify for OP, venerating the icons on Sundays would not involve kneeling. Make the the Sign of the cross & a bow touching fingertips to the floor, twice, kiss icon and touch forehead to icon, Sign of the cross & a bow again, move on to next icon, etc. There isn’t any kneeling on Sundays. 🙂
 
When I’m in an Eastern Catholic Church, I will always bow, but at times in the liturgy, I’ve observed plenty of kneeling in just about every Eastern Catholic Church I’ve visited, Sundays included.
 
rdorseyhsd said:
In the Roman Church you should genuflect if you are able, otherwise bow. In our eastern church, you make a deep bow, touch the floor if you are able and cross yourself. Also in our Byzantine Catholic Church, you are supposed to stand during the entire divine liturgy if you are able. There are chairs for those who are not able. In the Roman Church, you should bless yourself with holy water on entering the Church but should not do so on leaving the Church. In the Byzantine Church one should kiss both Icons of the season on entering the Church, they should not be kissed on leaving.
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Why not?
 
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