Boy scouts banning homosexuals

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I just found out that the boy scouts are banning anyone who is openly gay from joining. Is this acceptable?
 
I think so.

If gays want to be a part of boy scouts so bad, why don’t they create a gay scouts and ban heteros?
 
We seperate males and females in showers -yes? When Scouts go on camp grounds in the woods and showers are provided, should we seperate Gay male children from Hetero male children?
 
adrift said:
It is a private group. It surprises me that you ask.
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I’m actually very surprised by this news as well (in a good way). Obviously, a private business has the right to offer its service to whomever it wishes, but with the way that rampant political correctness has elevated the homosexual culture to almost being a protected class within our society, it surprises me that it isn’t being branded as “homophobic” and being falsely tossed around as a “hate crime”.
 
Actually the ban on openly gay leaders and scouts has been part of their policy for a long time.

Part of their oath speaks of being “morally straight”.
 
This is not new information. This has long been their policy. It is simply hitting the news cycle now because of an instance where they were forced to enforce the policy by removing a den mother’s membership and leadership position because she is an open homosexual.
 
For all of those corespondants who are against the Boy Scout ban on Homosexuals, I have only one question for you: Would you willingly expose your sons to anyone who willingly commits sodomy, and who would enjoy seeing your son in the nude?
Like it or not, the powers that be in the Boy Scout organization are just reflecting the moral beliefs and thinking of the majority of the American people.
Gay apologists seem to forget that homosexuality is merely tolerated by society, it is not accepted!
 
George_Stegmeir said:
For all of those corespondants who are against the Boy Scout ban on Homosexuals, I have only one question for you: Would you willingly expose your sons to anyone who willingly commits sodomy, and who would enjoy seeing your son in the nude?
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Do you let you’re sons join the military? There are openly gay people there. They’ve been there back when they couldn’t talk about it for fear that they would be discarged, bullied or killed. There have been gays in Boy Scouts since it started You might’ve even been in a troop w/ one. :eek: Whether they’re open or not… they’re there. I for one would have no problem w/ one of my boys being in Scouts w/ an openly gay kid. It’s the straight pedo Scout leaders I’d worry about.
 
MidnightSun12 said:
I’m actually very surprised by this news as well (in a good way). Obviously, a private business has the right to offer its service to whomever it wishes, but with the way that rampant political correctness has elevated the homosexual culture to almost being a protected class within our society, it surprises me that it isn’t being branded as “homophobic” and being falsely tossed around as a “hate crime”.
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This is neither an endorsement nor a condemnation of the policy–I have no strong feelings either way–but private businesses in the United States do not have a right to deny services to whomever they please, and that has been the case since the 1960s. We, rightly, have equal accommodation laws, which prohibit discrimination on a number of grounds, including race, religion, gender, national origin, etc.

And, BTW, I fully agree that most pedophiles are heterosexual.

The Boy Scouts are not a business–they are a non-profit organization, and fall under the rules for ‘fraternal organizations’, which mostly have a right to associate, or not associate for any reason they see fit.

The term ‘political correctness’ is really not relevant in this context.
 
Siera, you are baiting the wrong person here! I am former professional cadre US Navy (before they allowed overt gays to be in it)
Even though Gays are allowed in today’s Navy, very few are open about it. In fact, most gay sailors on active duty, are not just in the closet, they are under the floor of the closet. Why? The social dynamic aboard ships does not tolerate homosexual behavion. The straight majority of the crew would take a very dim view of openly gay behavior-to the extent that “accidents”, such as “falling down a ladder” would happen.
Officially, any homosexual behavior that came to the attention of the CPO’s or Officers would be harshly dealt with…just as is any straight sexual activity between male and female sailors aboard ship or on a Naval Station.
My sons are way beyond military age, but when they were of age, I encouraged them to enter the military. Only one did, and today he is a career US Marine. Of the other two who chose not to enter the military, one is a civil engineer, and the other is a College Professor
As for your remark about pedophilic adult scout masters, If they are preying on boys, then they are homosexual pedophiles. What no one seems to want to realize is that many adult homosexuals reguard teen age boys in the same way that straight men reguard teen age girls. The only difference is, is the laws about “jail bait” girls is much more stringent than those for homosexual pedophilia…and locking up a homosexual in jail is analgous to locking up a straight man in a harem.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
Siera, you are baiting the wrong person here! I am former professional cadre US Navy (before they allowed overt gays to be in it)
Even though Gays are allowed in today’s Navy, very few are open about it. In fact, most gay sailors on active duty, are not just in the closet, they are under the floor of the closet. Why? The social dynamic aboard ships does not tolerate homosexual behavion. The straight majority of the crew would take a very dim view of openly gay behavior-to the extent that “accidents”, such as “falling down a ladder” would happen.
Officially, any homosexual behavior that came to the attention of the CPO’s or Officers would be harshly dealt with…just as is any straight sexual activity between male and female sailors aboard ship or on a Naval Station.
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Everybody see this. This is why we have laws protecting gays. That’s a hate crime plain and simple. It also seems to me like you’re condoning this behavior? No one deserves to be hurt or killed by their so-called brothers in arms. Gay soldiers are also somebody’s child. BTW, I have plenty of military veterans in my family, Marine & Air Force.
 
Seira said:
Do you let you’re sons join the military? There are openly gay people there. They’ve been there back when they couldn’t talk about it for fear that they would be discarged, bullied or killed. There have been gays in Boy Scouts since it started You might’ve even been in a troop w/ one. :eek: Whether they’re open or not… they’re there. I for one would have no problem w/ one of my boys being in Scouts w/ an openly gay kid. It’s the straight pedo Scout leaders I’d worry about.
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One can not justify a wrong by pointing to another wrong.
 
I don’t think its acceptable. I think its discriminatory.

And by extension un-Christian.
 
clark_kent said:
I don’t think its acceptable. I think its discriminatory.

And by extension un-Christian.
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some discrimination is necessary in life. You wouldn’t put pre-teen and teenage girls with the same age boys out at night camping. Neither would you want adult males supervising young females.

It is for the protection of the children.
 
Needtostop said:
I just found out that the boy scouts are banning anyone who is openly gay from joining. Is this acceptable?
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Being “openly gay” is to live a lifestyle that promotes sex outside of marriage. This is directly contrary to the Scout Oath to remain morally straight. It is also highly inappropriate to have an openly gay leader in a group of young boys, where open sexuality (hetero or homo) really does not belong.

Yes, it is appropriate to ban openly gay persons.

In my experience as a Scout, and as a Scout leader with my son, one’s sexuality simply does not get raised at any time with the boys. If a scout leader started talking about his promiscuous heterosexual lifestyle, that would be equally inappropriate, and grounds for removing him from his position.

Peace,
Robert
 
clark_kent said:
I don’t think its acceptable. I think its discriminatory.

And by extension un-Christian.
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Is it discriminatory to prevent an adult male from taking a troop of 13 year old girl scouts on an otherwise unsupervised camping trip?

The rule is not intended to be discriminatory. It’s in place to protect the innocence of the boys in Scouting. No one has the right to be a Scout leader.

Peace,
Robert
 
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