Boycott the Susan G. Komen Foundation!

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It seems that you might missing the point of fighting against abortion. Our voice do have point. Giving to people like Susan G. Komen Foundation, we are saying we are okay with our money going to butcher babies.

There are many many org. that go out of their way to make sure that our money is not going to PP. Those are the groups that we need to support. The Komen Foundation has been not been shy to reconize the fact the more than half of their money is going to PP, even though they are aware of the breast cancer, BC and abortion links. So it seems to me acinine to even give our money to group who is not really out to help “find the cure”

Also on a side note. There are many many clinics that are set up to help women. These clinincs offer real sollutions in their clinics. Like paps, mamms, and counseling. All these are done with out fed. money and only on donations. The PP org is constantly trying to shut our clinics down. We compete with them. And when someone says I am “something I’m passionately, passionately against” abortion but I think we need to support PP it is really not helping the cause.
I know many clinics are set up to help women, and i’m not suggesting we just go helping PP. What I’m suggesting is we don’t boycott the life-giving, life-saving work of everyone who supports things we disapprove of.

And I’m also suggesting it’s highly selective. If we really wanted to stop the circulation of money to abortions through boycotts, we’d have to start our own commune somewhere.

You won’t successfully stop abortion with these petty battles, but you could cause real collateral damage that is anti-life.

Go to the cause. The cause is not the availability. It’s not the unfortunate legality. It’s not the funding. All these factors exist only in response to demand, and will always exist as long as the demand is there. If we want to save more real life babies, even more energy and focus needs to be directed toward the reasons our pregnant sisters and daughters choose abortion over life.
 
Go to the cause. The cause is not the availability. It’s not the unfortunate legality. It’s not the funding. All these factors exist only in response to demand, and will always exist as long as the demand is there. If we want to save more real life babies, even more energy and focus needs to be directed toward the reasons our pregnant sisters and daughters choose abortion over life.
Actually we can do both. Work with women in crisis pregnancies and work day and night to get abortion banned in this country. . They are not mutually exclusive . And one way to work for the latter is to never, never, give money to people who support this evil in any way, shape or form. . If Komen wants my money there is a very easy solution- quit funding Planned Parenthood ,one of the most vile and evil organizations. on the face of the earth
 
Komen supports Planned Parenthood, Komen also funds centers engaging in embryonic stem cell research:

lifenews.com/2011/07/19/komen-sends-millions-to-embryonic-stem-cell-research-centers/

Bishop Frederick F. Campbell of Columbus, Ohio, is the latest Catholic bishop to instruct churches and schools that he oversees to not engage in fundraising for the Komen for the Cure organization because of its ties to Planned Parenthood.

lifenews.com/2011/08/19/catholic-bishop-church-cant-back-komen-because-of-abortion/

After a Catholic bishop in Ohio said he wanted to direct money in his diocese away from Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation over its ties to the Planned Parenthood abortion business, the rest of Ohio’s Catholic bishops are now on board.

lifenews.com/2011/07/22/catholic-bishops-in-ohio-dont-back-komen-over-abortion-ties/
 
I (like most people) totally disagree and will continue to support all of the above.
You disagree that SGKF provides support to PP/abortion services or you disagree that due to this Catholics should boycott?
 
But not enough to make a difference.
History is full of examples of how “one” person, or just a small minority has “made a difference” and changed cultures!! Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Ryan White, the lady who started MADD (my limited memory can not think of her name) Susan B. Anthony, I could go on & on. So be careful of saying that a single person or a minority can’t make a difference. If we all felt that way then where would we be?
 
Today there was another “Pink Ribbon” 5k!! And there were quite a few Catholic women there, so I don’t buy the “faithful Catholics don’t participate” drivel.

Breast cancer doesn’t care what religion you practice.
Perhaps the “catholic women” who were there were unaware of SGKF support of PP. I was until very recently. Or perhaps they are of the same mindset you are; that it doesn’t matter. Breast cancer can strike anyone; it’s a disease, it doesn’t have the ability to discriminate or discern. But we as humans do. And we can support the Godly work of breast cancer research & treatment without supporting organizations that claim to work to preserve life and at the same time support the culture of death, i.e. supporting PP
 
Cancer PERIOD doesn’t care. And I will support the SKF.
I have friends who are still here in part because of them.

Kathy
You may also have friends who AREN’t here because of them. But you’ll never know them because they were aborted. And SGKF funding may have kept the doors open of the abortion mill that killed your unknown potential future friends. It just seems contradictory. SGKF can provide mammogram funding without giving funds to PP. What about local health depts, or private charitable health facilities?
 
Actually we can do both. Work with women in crisis pregnancies and work day and night to get abortion banned in this country. . They are not mutually exclusive . And one way to work for the latter is to never, never, give money to people who support this evil in any way, shape or form. . If Komen wants my money there is a very easy solution- quit funding Planned Parenthood ,one of the most vile and evil organizations. on the face of the earth
what i’m saying is that if your fight against the latter produces more collateral harm (less help for those threatened by breast cancer) than good (symbolic fight against legal/funding realities that won’t change until demand is changed) than its anti-life in its effect
 
Since I went back in there, with flowers for the doctor, I (being a Catholic and a curious one) looked over the “options” for someone finding themselves with child at an inopportune time. It’s not a facdtory to kill babies - in fact they are so many steps to go through (counseling, videos, presentations on the life stage your fetus is currently at, etc) and you cannot go in without having gone through all of the steps and it takes several days of said counseling and meetings and processing to get a girl to a point of making her own best decision. They also present equal amounts of info on adoption, WIC, childcare help to keep girls in school, etc.

The truth is that the abortions performed there make up such a very small percentage of what they do. They detect cancer in mostly underprivileged women and get them the care they need to beat their disease, live to be the mothers they want to be and support them kindly through the process.

The image you present is, not suprisingly, the one I grew up with. It just, sadly, is very inaccurate.

Apparently, I did not use the QUOTE feature correctly this time; the above is the quote, the below is my response.

Of course they provide other services, they couldn’t get all the funding they get if they were strictly an abortion mill. But an abortion mill they still are. Because I, and many others, believe if they provide one abortion it is too many. And the FACT is that the #1 thing they do is provide abortions!!! I think the fact that they provide all these “steps” you talk about, and then still ultimately provide the killing service makes it even more reprehensible! A woman, even an underprivileged one (like myself), can find all those services, mammos, PAP’s, WIC info, Soc Svc info (i.e; food stamps, child care vouchers, etc.) from places that do not also kill babies. Local health depts, Catholic Charities, County Social Service Depts, all are resources for these services.
 
what i’m saying is that if your fight against the latter produces more collateral harm (less help for those threatened by breast cancer) than good (symbolic fight against legal/funding realities that won’t change until demand is changed) than its anti-life in its effect
I guess it depends on one’s definition of collateral damage… Planned Parenthood kills 400,000 children a year. There is absolutely no service Planned Parenthood can provide they can mitigate this abject evil. . There is also no service Planned Parenthood can provide that cannot be provided by other nonprofits, non-profits that don’t have a vested interest in convincing women to kill their children. Susan G Komen made a conscious decision to support evil , and they should pay the consequences for this.
 
I (like most people) totally disagree and will continue to support all of the above.
Ditto!!! I know too many women who have been helped by the Foundation. They will continue to have my support!!

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Breast cancer doesn’t care what religion you practice.

SOOOOOOOOO TRUE!!!
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I guess it depends on one’s definition of collateral damage… Planned Parenthood kills 400,000 children a year.
My definition of collateral damage is the harming of non-enemy things (such as innocent cancer victims) in an attack against an enemy (such as abortion).

Such collateral damage needs to be weighed against the effectiveness of the attack. Would weakening someone’s efforts to save lives of breast cancer patients stop abortion just because they donate to PP? No. Why? Because someone else (probably someone whom you have in some way circulated money to) will step in to fill the gap for PP. Why? Because too many people WANT abortions.

So we’ll continue to spin around in circles playing this silly game as some self-indulgent ode to our principle, while taking out innocent bystanders in the melee.
 
My definition of collateral damage is the harming of non-enemy things (such as innocent cancer victims) in an attack against an enemy (such as abortion).
It is specious to expect women to get basic healthcare from such an evil organization.
Such collateral damage needs to be weighed against the effectiveness of the attack. Would weakening someone’s efforts to save lives of breast cancer patients stop abortion just because they donate to PP? No. Why? Because someone else (probably someone whom you have in some way circulated money to) will step in to fill the gap for PP. Why? Because too many people WANT abortions.
If people didnt break laws there would be no need for laws. Abortions increased fourfold after they were legalized in this country. Not one penny of my money will ever go to any group that support PP or any other abortuary.
 
I only recently learned of Komen’s ties to Planned Parenthood. I know Christian women who will say, “But Planned Parenthood does SO MUCH GOOD in other areas!”

That makes me really sad … how much good offsets murdering a child?

I feel the same way about Komen - they raise a lot of money and most of it is used to fight cancer.

But how much “good” is good enough to offset the abortions they help fund?

Other organizations will receive my money to fight cancer … Komen will not.

I’ve also started to take notice of businesses that team up with Komen in local races and I contact them to let them know why I can’t support them as long as they continue their ties to Komen. Many of them really don’t care; a few seem to hear my concerns.

In the end, it’s my money and if I am to be a good steward, I will do my best to fund good causes and avoid spending it anywhere that might support Komen or PP.
 
Not one penny of my money will ever go to any group that support PP or any other abortuary.
Unfortunately, it almost certainly already does and you’ve just been spared knowledge of the whens, wheres, and hows.

You’re never going to make abortion illegal so long as approx half the nation wants it to be legal. So in the meantime all you would likely accomplish with this boycott is make it harder for people who may die to fight breast cancer. Not to mention harden people’s hearts even further.
 
Unfortunately, it almost certainly already does and you’ve just been spared knowledge of the whens, wheres, and hows.

You’re never going to make abortion illegal so long as approx half the nation wants it to be legal. So in the meantime all you would likely accomplish with this boycott is make it harder for people who may die to fight breast cancer. Not to mention harden people’s hearts even further.
I have a feeling we’re about to enter the bizarro world of pro-choice Catholics where those who oppose abortion really support and those who support abortion really oppose it.

What other evils do you believe we should not oppose lest our opposition hardens people’s hearts?
 
I have a feeling we’re about to enter the bizarro world of pro-choice Catholics where those who oppose abortion really support and those who support abortion really oppose it.

What other evils do you believe we should not oppose lest our opposition hardens people’s hearts?
i’m not against opposing abortion. i’m for opposing abortion. i oppose abortion.

i’m talking about effectively saving real babies in real wombs vs hurting others in a symbolic battle against a status quo that wont change until demand for it changes.

chess not checkers.

i’m pro-life, anti-abortion just as you.
 
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