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I always thought my sons would eventually date, but I never expected that they would just go “hang out” at their girlfriends houses til midnight on a regular basis, and on dates occassionally. Am I just grieving over their growing up, or am I right that my boys do not need to go “hang out”? If I keep them home, they are mad at me and they spend the evening moping or chatting on facebook. How do I fix this? How do I guide them to stay home, OR how do I make me let go of them to test their wings. They are 17 and 15…always together.
 
Hmmm… I would think that at those ages, it’s a bit inappropriate to just go and “hang out” at their girlfriends’ houses till midnight or whatever. I’m a bit shocked that the parents of these girls would allow that as well. I would suggest you put your foot down on this situation. Let them be angry and mopey – that’s how teenagers are. 😉 In a few years, they can do whatever they want to do and you’ll have no control over it, so make sure you don’t give up your role of parent so soon! 😉
 
Let me just add one more thing right quick before I forget – please don’t think that I have anything against boys and girls hanging out together. My daughter has had her boyfriend over many times just to hang out (and she knows the rule that they can never be in the house alone together – call me over-protective, LOL!), but by 8 PM (unless there’s a valid reason otherwise), it’s time to go home!
 
I always thought my sons would eventually date, but I never expected that they would just go “hang out” at their girlfriends houses til midnight on a regular basis, and on dates occassionally. Am I just grieving over their growing up, or am I right that my boys do not need to go “hang out”? If I keep them home, they are mad at me and they spend the evening moping or chatting on facebook. How do I fix this? How do I guide them to stay home, OR how do I make me let go of them to test their wings. They are 17 and 15…always together.
Are their girlfriends sisters? :confused: If they are always together, which GF’s house are they hanging out in? Until midnight? Invite the girls over to your house for the evening. Invite their parents too. Have a party, with adults and kids. Get to know the parents of these girls so you can find out if they are being supervised or if it’s “anything goes.”

Where is your sons’ father? It’s really the time when the father needs to step up and set boundaries and show his sons how to treat girls/women going forward. That is, of course, if your husband is a Catholic who believes in staying chaste until marriage…
 
I’ve just “hung out” with friends of the same and opposite sex well past midnight plenty of times. Nothing bad came out of it. Teens need to socialize and during the school week it’s hard, so we like to make up for lost time on the weekends by staying out late.
That being said, I never really had a curfew because I always told my parents where I was going and who I’d be with and I proved myself to be a trustworthy kid. I definitely think that if you’re too strict with kids and never let them stay out, they’ll become sneaky and rebellious. If you think they’re trustworthy give them a little wiggle room and see how they handle being allowed to stay out. If they mess up, you can always take the privilege away.
 
I have a 16-year old girl and 14-year old boy (and a 9-year old boy). I don’t allow my teen girl to hang out with her friends or my teen boy to hang out with his friends until midnight on a regular basis, so I certainly won’t let either hang out with a girlfriend or boyfriend until midnight on a regular basis at either of those ages either. (They do stay over here or at a friends house multiple times a year and for special occasions.)

As far as boyfriends and girlfriends, to be honest, I see no reason for teens of that age to have an exclusive relationship with a member of the opposite sex at all. I see dating as a means to discern marriage and I think that is too young to be discerning marriage.

With that being said, I think a mixed group of teen boys and girls hanging out once in awhile until midnight with adult supervision, say at a dance or function (youth group) or even at home, is fine.
 
I guess you need to decide on based on what you know about your kids -and the parents of these girls. My daughter dated a boy last year and they hung out pretty regularly -usually with other kids at his house (our house is small, their house -much bigger and on a decent amount of property -basically meaning we’re pretty much on top of each other at our house and not much for a group of teens to do.) I don’t think it was ever til midnight except when they had a bonfire.
They dated nine months and they didn’t even so much as kiss. (No my head is not buried in the sand - trust me when I know my kid and she tells me more than I need to know.) I also knew the parents and they had their heads on straight.
It could totally go the other way though -if you have “relaxed” or “liberal” parents running the show at these houses and hormones can interfere with judgement when it comes to teenagers.
 
As my brother grew up, my family’s house tended to be the place where all his friends hung out. It was not the same way for me, because I was homeschooled. While I only have an almost one year old son, I do know that I want to strive to be that parent who welcomes my children’s friends over with open arms. I want my children to feel comfortable with having their boyfriend or girlfriend over to watch a movie together (beats paying $20 or more at a theater!) or play board games with the rest of the family.

It sounds like you welcome your daughter’s boyfriend over, but why are your sons’ girlfriends not coming over?

I think an acceptable curfew for the week would be 8 pm. For the weekend, maybe 10 pm. I mean, come on… teenagers need some sleep on the weekends! They shouldn’t be out all night… save that for college when they can wake up later!

Also encourage your sons and their girlfriends to find activities they are passionate about. Maybe they could all volunteer at the local soup kitchen or pray outside of the local abortion clinic together. Or do those things as a family and invite them to join! You should be striving to raise well-rounded individuals who have high standards and respect for themselves and others. Best of luck!
 
When I was a teenager I hung out in mixed company on weekends all the time. I think it was a healthy experience to have friends that were girls and have a non-romantic relationship with them. When I got to college and met guys who went to boarding schools or single sex schools, they just didn’t have a lot of maturity around females since they didn’t have any experience “hanging out” with them in high school. So their notions of interacting with females came from television and movies – not exactly the best teachers.

We did fun things like play board games, watch movies, and play table tennis at various peoples’ houses. Occasionally parents would come and check in on us which was cool. We would talk with the adults and just let them know some of the interesting things going on at school and such.
 
I was dating a boy at 17, he came over to “hang out” every saturday until 11 o-clock. Both of our parents knew we were an item and were good catholics. (his especially strict). For us, we just wanted to see each other. Just because the hour is late doesn’t mean bad things are happening. Often times my siblings would be wandering throughout the house, even if they weren’t always in the room together. We’d watch movies, talk, browse the internet together. We really were just “hanging out”. We only considered it a date if we went out to eat, which was rare since he had no job and I needed to save money for school. There’d be an occasional romantic moment, but nothing that would hurt our souls, just sweet little stories to daydream about the next day 🙂 I’d even hang out at his house sometimes too, and the same occured. Mostly then it was me and his 3 brothers hanging out together.

I think Hanging out is just a word teenagers use… 'cause even if we did go out to eat, I think I usually called it hanging out. 😛
 
I always thought my sons would eventually date, but I never expected that they would just go “hang out” at their girlfriends houses til midnight on a regular basis, and on dates occassionally. Am I just grieving over their growing up, or am I right that my boys do not need to go “hang out”? If I keep them home, they are mad at me and they spend the evening moping or chatting on facebook. How do I fix this? How do I guide them to stay home, OR how do I make me let go of them to test their wings. They are 17 and 15…always together.
With all due respect, I do think there is a bit of grieving over your sons growing up.

‘Hanging out’ is what teenagers do. They have no money to go anywhere and no car to get there. To be honest, I miss those days where I could go to someone’s house and just spend time with them.

Also, I don’t see why you have to ‘keep them home’. If midnight is too late, ask them to be home by 11 or 10.

And if your boys are the type to not be chaste, they wouldn’t be haniging out at these girls places, they would be ‘spending hours at the corner store’

Nonetheless, I would be very cautious. These girls parents could be liberal and naive. I remember in high school I had a friend who was allowed to bring her boyfriend into her bedroom and close the door because her mom was convinced they wouldn’t think of ‘doing anything’:rolleyes:

Then I have met parents who just did not think it was their place to put a stop to it :eek:

So, my suggestion is to call these parents up and have an open discussion

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As far as boyfriends and girlfriends, to be honest, I see no reason for teens of that age to have an exclusive relationship with a member of the opposite sex at all. I see dating as a means to discern marriage and I think that is too young to be discerning marriage.

With that being said, I think a mixed group of teen boys and girls hanging out once in awhile until midnight with adult supervision, say at a dance or function (youth group) or even at home, is fine.
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Same boat here. Our two oldest are our 17 year old daughter and 14.5 year old son. While both of them have been out in mixed company neither of them are allowed to “date”. The one time it came up with our daughter I asked her point blank if she thought the boy was someone she might want to marry. That definitely got her thinking about the purpose of an exclusive relationship.
 
I’ve just “hung out” with friends of the same and opposite sex well past midnight plenty of times. Nothing bad came out of it. Teens need to socialize and during the school week it’s hard, so we like to make up for lost time on the weekends by staying out late.
Same and I would have found it devastating if someone had told me he didn’t believe my word on just being friends and acting decent with a lady friend. Then again, those who think they stand may they watch lest they fall.

If the friend’s parents are in the house, that’s actually safer than dating, where there’s no supervision plus there’s a lot of pressure and awkwardness, which prompts young, especially unformed minds, to not know how to act and thus end up doing stupid things.

Besides, I think teenagers have business having friends, while they mostly don’t really have business dating. It’s not like they’re going to count until 3 dates, then start a relationship, then get engaged after like 6 months and married after another 6-12. Young people really, really need to get to interact with the opposite sex without such pressure.

Even right now, as a man closing on 30, I still prefer “just hanging out” to artificial scenarios that don’t tell me much about the other person, and I could never make up my mind to come up with any sort of credible conclusion in such circumstances. I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “date” with a woman if not in jest.

What I like about normal, unforced contact is the shared histories that form between people. Friends end up having histories together and so do those who actually do marry each other in the end… as opposed to coin flip decisions that people end up regretting (because they marry without knowing each other, only having gone through a short checklist while dating).

But obviously, it’d be a good idea to know what opposite sex teenagers are doing, without inappropriately invading their privacy. Especially when hormones are raging, the local secular culture is permissive, the individuals have had previous incidents of poor judgements.
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Same boat here. Our two oldest are our 17 year old daughter and 14.5 year old son. While both of them have been out in mixed company neither of them are allowed to “date”. The one time it came up with our daughter I asked her point blank if she thought the boy was someone she might want to marry. That definitely got her thinking about the purpose of an exclusive relationship.
I’m not American, so maybe this is just a cultural difference but I’ve never been able to figure out what’s that with the “exclusive” vs “nonexclusive” distinction. As in, if it’s “boys and girls” things, like kissing, reading love poetry, generally behaving like loving doves, then it obviously should be only with one person at a time (as in it doesn’t become better when the same starts to be done with 1 or 2 aditional people apart from the first or the main interest… which would get my hypothetical child into a very serious conversation), while on the other hand if it’s just friendly banter and maybe just a little dash of flirting, then the entire question of exclusivity is pretty much moot to me as there’s really little to be exclusive about.

On the other hand I understand that it can be detrimental to the development of young people if they act like they’re married or engaged and overinvest emotionally, close themselves to meaningful opportunities etc.
 
I always thought my sons would eventually date, but I never expected that they would just go “hang out” at their girlfriends houses til midnight on a regular basis, and on dates occassionally. Am I just grieving over their growing up, or am I right that my boys do not need to go “hang out”? If I keep them home, they are mad at me and they spend the evening moping or chatting on facebook. How do I fix this? How do I guide them to stay home, OR how do I make me let go of them to test their wings. They are 17 and 15…always together.
I don’t see anything wrong with them hanging out. I do think the time is the key factor here. We are talking about during summer vacation aren’t we? I think home by 11pm might be the way to go. That is certainly late enough. But during school, not sure I would want them out except on weekends.
 
I always thought my sons would eventually date, but I never expected that they would just go “hang out” at their girlfriends houses til midnight on a regular basis, and on dates occassionally. Am I just grieving over their growing up, or am I right that my boys do not need to go “hang out”? If I keep them home, they are mad at me and they spend the evening moping or chatting on facebook. How do I fix this? How do I guide them to stay home, OR how do I make me let go of them to test their wings. They are 17 and 15…always together.
This is what they do now days. It’s gotten expensive to be a teenager heck it’s expensive for anyone to go out. Then you have the safety factor with all the creeps out there today. But I think it’s more the issue of expense. They have to have their cell phone, car, gas to drive the car around, car insurance, save for college, save for prom, save for school activities, spending money to have when they do go out…no wonder they just hang out these days. Parents I know only pay for some of all that. That also doesn’t include any fashion gear or clothes, computer, laptop, tablet, music, whatever else they need…I don’t know. I don’t think it’s unusual for teenagers to stay out late either. Heck that’s when my 9pm curfew expire when I hit high school. I had liberal parents though. As long as I made to school and passed when I went to bed was up to me.
 
It’s summer time and if they feel the need to “hang out,” they can do it at normal times of day. If they have a set engagement (ie; movie, party, picnic) let them go and have them come home after it is over. Allow time for driving and dropping off their date, but if their scheduled date is over, they need to come home.

Don’t trust a girl’s parents to be as strict as you are. I have sadly found that too many parents allow boys in bedrooms 😦

You may have raised your sons to be chaste, but their are a lot of pressures for a teenager to forgo those teachings. Girls are much more aggressive than they were 10-20 years ago. Sometimes it is the girl pushing for intimacy.

Be the mean parent…it’s your duty. You don’t always get to make the happy decisions and they can thank you for it when their 30. 😉
 
Have you talked to the parents of the girlfriends? If your child is spending that much time at someone else’s house that someone deserves to have you contact them about how the visitation schedule is working out. That is even true if it is a same-gender friend, but especially so if there is a courtship going on. Don’t just take an “oh, they’re fine!” for an answer. Ask a lot of questions.

Your boys might be unchaperoned with their girlfriends, they might be wearing out their welcome, they might need to bring food over there once in awhile, they may need to be kicked out and told that their parents have been called and will be waiting for them when they get home, they may be the best thing that happened over at that house in a long time. If nothing else, the girls’ parents might appreciate knowing they have leverage over the couples by solidarity with the other set of parents. Solidarity and communication put more power on your side.

As for how late you let them stay out, that depends a bit on their schedule. Generally speaking, though, the police will tell you that the later teens stay out, the more trouble they get into.
 
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