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Sister Suzanne Toolan, composer of the well-known hymn “I Am the Bread of Life,” celebrates her 80th birthday
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I didn’t know about that. It certainly changes the theology.Unfortunately, the good Sister allowed the PC crowd to change the words of her song, from;
“unless the Father draws him,” to “unless the Father beckons,” which makes no sense.
I stopped using the song after the hymnals made the change.
Amen! My personal crusade regards the PC changes made to “We Are The Light of the World” hymn. Talk about changing theology, the new version is not Catholic IMO.With age, it becomes difficult to read the small print of hymnals. So I just sing the words as I remember them, before PC arrived. Also my hearing is poor so I may be a bit loud at times.![]()
Actually, the article indicated that Sister herself decided that the inspired words of scripture were unacceptable. It also said that it was not well received after its premiere and headed for the trash can when someone took it to a seminary, and the rest is history (herstory?).Happy Birthday Sister Toolan.
Unfortunately, the good Sister allowed the PC crowd to change the words of her song, from;
“unless the Father draws him,” to “unless the Father beckons,” which makes no sense.
I stopped using the song after the hymnals made the change.
Jim
I’m tempted to make a comment about active participation.I have memories of being the cantor at First Communion Masses where the teachers stood behind me during this song waving their arms as if throwing beach balls into the air during the refrain, presumably raising someone up.
How AWESOME!! That is my ALL TIME favorite hymn - thanks for posting this! :bounce: I don’t care what anyone says, I will always love this song, it brings tears to my eyes everytime I hear it. DH and I had this song played at our wedding.Sister Suzanne Toolan, composer of the well-known hymn “I Am the Bread of Life,” celebrates her 80th birthday
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They were probably raising their hands in prayer. It is an ancient gesture of prayer and praise.I have memories of being the cantor at First Communion Masses where the teachers stood behind me during this song waving their arms as if throwing beach balls into the air during the refrain, presumably raising someone up.
A beautiful hymn, direct from scripture (it WAS better before the language change)
Another hymn that was just beautiful was “Cry of the Poor” which used to affirm that God hears the cry of the poor. But now the linguistic tricks to get around the masculine pronouns are so convoluted that it seems to ask “Who will hear the cry of the poor?”
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This is incorrect. The aren’t any “question marks” at the end of each verse. It is a statement…
“Let my soul glory in the Lord, who will hear the cry of the poor”
“and to hearts, broken, God is near, who will hear the cry of the poor.”
etc
None of them are asking, nor denying any masculinity … its just restating that the Lord hears…
But in liturgy, when it’s not prescribed, you don’t do it. Feel free to do it in private.They were probably raising their hands in prayer. It is an ancient gesture of prayer and praise.
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But when sung, it isn’t always easy to distinguish a period from a question mark, especially when the phrase beginning with the relative pronoun is also the last phrase of the sentence.This is incorrect. The aren’t any “question marks” at the end of each verse. It is a statement…
“Let my soul glory in the Lord, who will hear the cry of the poor”
“and to hearts, broken, God is near, who will hear the cry of the poor.”
etc
None of them are asking, nor denying any masculinity … its just restating that the Lord hears…
I’m not sure if I read this in the article, “The Hidden Hand behind Bad Church Music” by J.A. Tucker or the book, “Why Catholics Don’t Sing” (author escapes me at the moment), but “you” here should refer to us. The lyrics for “I am the Bread of Life” are taken from St. John’s Eucharistic discourse and the speaker is Jesus. However, the correct translation should be “He who comes to me shall not hunger and he who believes in me shall not thirst. No one can come to me, unless the Father draw him.” This is taken directly from scripture. When the new translation came out, it completely threw everything out.Actually I didn’t like “I am the Bread of Life” because it is too demanding for singing. Not many people are blessed with the ability to reach such high notes.
The modernised version with all the “you” sounds silly to me. Who is the “you” refering to? I always sing the original texts loudly, cannot stand stupidities like that.
Indeed, the reference should be to faithful believers, but “you” doesn’t seem that inclusive.but “you” here should refer to us. The lyrics for “I am the Bread of Life” are taken from St. John’s Eucharistic discourse and the speaker is Jesus. However, the correct translation should be “He who comes to me shall not hunger and he who believes in me shall not thirst. No one can come to me, unless the Father draw him.” This is taken directly from scripture. When the new translation came out, it completely threw everything out.
I do object to deleting any references to “Him” because this pronoun refers to Jesus. Furthermore, in another thread, I posted that the USCCB ran a poll on a random sample of hymns in use today and they found that a mere 10% refered to God as “Father”. The gist of their commentary regarding this was that if Jesus, Himself, referred to God as “Father”, then we should not be tinkering with His own words.Indeed, the reference should be to faithful believers, but “you” doesn’t seem that inclusive.
Maybe somewhere out there, some “brillant” mind would have thought of this new variation:
"Jesus is the Bread of Life.
We who come to him (alternative: God) shall not hunger.
We who believe in him (alt: God) shall not thirst.
No one can go to him (alt: God), unless the Father (alt: Godself) draws us.
And he (alt: God) shall raise us up (x3) on the last day."
Doesn’t take a lot to mangle hymns up to produce those trite stuff that is published in the US. Why should we even be made to pay for those ****?
I really don’t mind changing the pronouns when the pronouns refer to the faithful. For example, changing “I will raise him up” to “I will raise you up” is not that big of a deal. However, when people try to change the pronouns that refer to God, this becomes a problem.Indeed, the reference should be to faithful believers, but “you” doesn’t seem that inclusive.
Maybe somewhere out there, some “brillant” mind would have thought of this new variation:
"Jesus is the Bread of Life.
We who come to him (alternative: God) shall not hunger.
We who believe in him (alt: God) shall not thirst.
No one can go to him (alt: God), unless the Father (alt: Godself) draws us.
And he (alt: God) shall raise us up (x3) on the last day."
Doesn’t take a lot to mangle hymns up to produce those trite stuff that is published in the US. Why should we even be made to pay for those ****?
The best thing we could ever do for the state of Catholic music in this country is to break the stranglehold now enjoyed by OCP (“Obsolete Countercultural Pablum”).Other than that, I do agree with your comments. Besides, OCP owns the copyrights to 10,000 songs and they keep pushing new stuff each year. I dread what they will present us with come Advent.