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Atisor207
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First, read the post he wrote about the case in your blog
Secondly, if you don’t want your blog to be quoted then don’t make it public
Thirdly, what does any of what you say have to do with forcing an priest to break the seal of confession?
Finally, watch your language and don’t you dare accuse any innocents here. Your insults and accusations of people here only show how judgmental you are.
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FJL
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Hey boy…my name is Frank LaFerriere…and I am the blogger/owner of Rape Victims of the Catholic Church.
You listen up and you listen up good.
You will NOT use my blog to defend the indefensible you understand me?
You will NOT use my blog to spew your bs either.
I could care less about the roman catholics or their rules of confession. I could care less if a nuke was dropped on top of the Vatican and thousands of you freaks died.
You all lost your rights when your priests of this church raped us, stole our souls, destroyed our lives.
You all lost your rights when your Pedophile Pimps, such as Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Donald Wuerl, Roger Mahony, Bernard Law and many others covered up the rapes of us, by moving these disgusting pedophile priests from parish to parish, protecting them over us.
You all lost your rights when your leaders fight us every step of the way in seeking justice for the crimes committed against us, by hiding behind such laws as the statue of limitations and now your confessional rules.
You all lost your rights when YOU ALL violated the Catechism any damn way.
PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
CHAPTER TWO
“YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF”
ARTICLE 6
THE SIXTH COMMANDMENT
Offenses against chastity
2356: Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. GRAVER STILL IS THE RAPE OF CHILDREN COMMITTED BY PARENTS (INCEST) OR THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EDUCATION OF THE CHILDREN ENTRUSTED TO THEM.
Get it straight you little boy…
I was raped by Father Leon Gaulin in March of 1975 at St Thomas More Parish in Durham New Hampshire.
First he sucked my dick to “suck the demons” out of me.
Then he forced me to suck his dick so that I may receive his “sacred sacrament”.
Then he raped me anally, all the while making me say a penance of Our Fathers and Hail Mary’s while telling me that if I told ANYONE about his special healing I would burn in hell.
So boy…listen up.
I lived in fear, horror, self loathing for over 32 years while I hid what this disgusting ephebophile did to me. I thought I was the evil one, so much so I took the name of Damien, the Anti Christ from the Omen Series.
I though NO LONGER FEAR ANY OF YOU.
No boy…you all should start fearing ME.
For I will see that justice is done, that I will spend each and every day, for the rest of my life, exposing your sick and twisted Pedophile Pimps, Priests and Psychotic nuns…I will keep exposing you defenders of these scum for whom and what you are.
I will do all I can to see each and every one of these disgusting, souless, moraless scumbag Pedophile Pimps, Priests and you supporters of them in prison.
You’re church woke a sleeping tiger boy.
See the last straw?
Was knowing that Pedophile Pimp, Cardinal Timothy Dolan paying that equally disgusting Bill Donohue of the Catholic League to attack us victims.
When Bill Donohue said to my face, that because I did not punch Leon Gaulin in the face when he was raping me, that meant not only did I want it, I enjoyed it and I am a homosexual because of it?
That is when I declared all out war against ALL OF YOU!
So boy…you are NOT even worthy to tie my shoes, let alone use one of the postings from my blog to defend these disgusting scumbags.
Oh and let me clue you in on something ok?
Read Matthew 23…the whole chapter…because in it…Jesus Christ is telling us all…exactly all about this disgusting church whom claims to be the one true church…of his?
Jesus says…STFU…you bunch of disgusting, pedophile supporting scum.
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FJL
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As a survivor of one of your disgusting pedophiles and owner/blogger of Rape Victims of the Catholic Church hear me…
You all lost your rights a long time ago, to call yourselves moral, holy or anything.
Read your catechism:
2356 Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them.
Now listen to Jesus Christ:
It would be better for you to tie a huge millstone around your neck and throw yourself into the deepest of lakes than to harm a single hair on the head of a child.
Gee, you all might escape justice using your rules…but when you all get before Jesus Christ? Bring some suntan lotion…you’re going to need it where your souls are going.
Oh and do NOT throw that bs forgiveness at me either.
See to be forgiven for your sins? You MUST repent…and NONE of you have.
Yeah you are all so good about screaming about your rights under the Constitution…but what about my rights and the tens of thousands upon thousands of us whom were raped and destroyed by your disgusting pedophile priests?
I suppose though…your rights to rape kids and cover it up trumps our rights to have your disgusting rapists and pedophile pimps whom covered it up get away with their crimes against us right?
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FJL
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YAY another winner.
Punk.
Listen up you disgusting freak.
anti-Catholic hysteria will use normal compassion felt for all victims of abuse to attack the authority of the church still respected by civil authorities?
You disgust me.
I am one of those victims…but nope I am not a victim any longer.
See boy…it is time for you all to fear ME and the rest of my brothers and sisters, whom were raped, brutalized, terrorized, destroyed by your disgusting pedophile priests, your psychotic nuns and covered up by your Pedophile Pimp leaders.
You got a lot of guts to say that the church is still respected by civil authorities, when Ireland and many other countries populations and civil authorities would love to string you all up by your ears and hang you.
Ireland wants your disgusting pedophile church OUT. So does NSW, Australia and many others.
Oh and WE LOVE your compassion shown to us.
Head Pedophile Pimp, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, PAYS that disgusting scumbag, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League to go on the defense for him, attacking us priest rape survivors and psycho nun slave traders…to insult, defame and denigrate us.
I had the unpleasure of this scumbag telling me to my FACE…because I did not punch that disgusting ephebophile Leon Gaulin in the face while he was raping me, that meant not only did I want to be raped, I enjoyed it and I am a homosexual because of it…WITH ALL THE CONNOTATIONS THAT IMPLICATION BRINGS FROM YOUR DISGUSTING CHURCH IN ITS CONDEMNATION OF HOMOSEXUALS.
See boy…I used to live in FEAR of all of you. That priest really did that good for me…but it was after this disgusting degenerate defender said this to me that I sad ENOUGH IS ENOUGH I WILL NOT BE BLAMED FOR MY RAPE BY YOUR DISGUSTING PRIEST.
So Donohue, Dolan and the rest of you scum whom defend and stand up for these souless, moraless unholy scumbags…woke a sleeping tiger…and NOW I AM PISSED AND I NO LONGER FEAR ANY OF YOU…BUT YOU ALL SHOULD START FEARING ME.
See I am determined…I am trust me and I am on a MISSION FROM GOD…I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR PEDOPHILE PIMPS WHOM COVERED UP THESE CRIMES AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR PEDOPHILE PRIESTS AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR PSYCHO NUNS GO TO WHERE YOU ALL BELONG…IN PRISON…GETTING YOUR JUST DESSERTS BY THE INMATES WHOM WILL LOVE YOU ALL.
There will NEVER be forgiveness for ANY of you…see because we do follow the True Masters teachings…that if you wish to be forgiven…YOU MUST TRULY REPENT…AND NONE OF YOU HAVE DONE THIS…IT IS PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WHEN YOU DENY US SURVIVORS JUSTICE USING THE LAWS LIKE THE STATUE OF LIMITATIONS AND THIS **** TO HAVE OUR CASES DISMISSED.
Here is a clue sunshine…when you all do die…make sure you all have a bottle of suntan oil with ya…cause where Jesus is going to send your sorry butts…you are gonna need it.
For Jesus said:“It would be better for you to tie a huge millstone around your neck and throw yourself into the deepest of lakes than to harm a single hair on the head of a child.”
Well sunshine…just what do you think Jesus is going to do to all of you when you get before Him on this? I believe it will be the 9th level of Dante’s hell for all of you.
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Hopey
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Survivors Prayer
Dear God,
We ask you to help us find healing and peace in our lives. Grant us hope in these times of trial. May Maria Goretti, who was strengthened by Your Grace, join with us in prayer for healing of all victims of abuse, particularly those abused as children or young adults.
Fill us with Your Love so that, as Maria prayed for her attacker, we too might have the courage to pray for the true conversion of our abusers, that they might seek Your Mercy through prayer and penance.
Loving God, pour into our hearts and lives Your healing Spirit, that the sacredness of every human person might be respected and protected as the precious image of God. Help us to live in the peace which Maria Goretti found in Christ and in the love of His mother, Mary.
We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord.
Amen
Dear God,
We ask you to help us find healing and peace in our lives. Grant us hope in these times of trial. May Maria Goretti, who was strengthened by Your Grace, join with us in prayer for healing of all victims of abuse, particularly those abused as children or young adults.
Fill us with Your Love so that, as Maria prayed for her attacker, we too might have the courage to pray for the true conversion of our abusers, that they might seek Your Mercy through prayer and penance.
Loving God, pour into our hearts and lives Your healing Spirit, that the sacredness of every human person might be respected and protected as the precious image of God. Help us to live in the peace which Maria Goretti found in Christ and in the love of His mother, Mary.
We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord.
Amen
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FJL
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Corki
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Why the funeral home?
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Hopey
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The alleged perp was president of the funeral home and it is also where one of the assaults took place.
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zab
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I would appreciate it if you would cease from using the derogatory term “alleged perp” in reference to the accused.
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Hopey
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It’s derogatory to whom?
That is how he is referred to even in the SP ruling, alleged perpetrator.
That is how he is referred to even in the SP ruling, alleged perpetrator.
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fred_conty
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Official Statement of the Diocese of Baton Rouge
And as such, the girl’s testimony would not count because she can’t waive the seal legally since this would violate the separation of church and state.
That is what I’m getting out of it.
Someone said that the penitent can give the priest permission to use confessional knowledge outside the confessional. Tho this is true, in legal court cases, the seal protects both penitent and confessor, and the court cannot ask for either to break this protective seal or use information guarded by this seal, because this is protected under the 1st amendment.
This would mean, I would think, that the court cannot ask for this info from either the penitent or confessor and therefore the info must be disregarded and thrown out.
Thus dissolving the case.
Praise be Jesus Christ
“Church law does not allow either the plaintiff (penitent) or anyone else to waive the seal of confession.”
It sounds like legally the girl and the priest both would be protected because both of them fall under the seal which the church imposes.And as such, the girl’s testimony would not count because she can’t waive the seal legally since this would violate the separation of church and state.
That is what I’m getting out of it.
Someone said that the penitent can give the priest permission to use confessional knowledge outside the confessional. Tho this is true, in legal court cases, the seal protects both penitent and confessor, and the court cannot ask for either to break this protective seal or use information guarded by this seal, because this is protected under the 1st amendment.
This would mean, I would think, that the court cannot ask for this info from either the penitent or confessor and therefore the info must be disregarded and thrown out.
Thus dissolving the case.
Praise be Jesus Christ
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Hopey
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To waive the seal would mean it no longer existed. No one can do that. A penitent can speak of their own confession. A priest can never break the seal, speak what was said in any shape or form.
What they said doesn’t apply to her.
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Hopey
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When a penitent speaks of their confession, the seal is still in tact, not broken. She is free to speak of it.
That is why it was a real surprise they allowed their legal team to take this approach.
That is why it was a real surprise they allowed their legal team to take this approach.
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Hopey
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From the ruling:
It follows, if the penitent
waives the privilege, the priest cannot then raise it to protect himself as he can only
“claim the privilege
on behalf of the person
,” not in his own right. La. Code E
vid
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art. 511(C). Therefore, we find the appellate court erred in granting the Church’s
motion in limine, excluding all evidence of the confession in its entirety as the
child/penitent is free to testify and introduce evidence as to her own confession.
The way the court used waived doesn’t mean the same as the way the Diocese used it because they then finished with she was “free to testify and introduce evidence as to her own confession.”
It follows, if the penitent
waives the privilege, the priest cannot then raise it to protect himself as he can only
“claim the privilege
on behalf of the person
,” not in his own right. La. Code E
vid
.
art. 511(C). Therefore, we find the appellate court erred in granting the Church’s
motion in limine, excluding all evidence of the confession in its entirety as the
child/penitent is free to testify and introduce evidence as to her own confession.
The way the court used waived doesn’t mean the same as the way the Diocese used it because they then finished with she was “free to testify and introduce evidence as to her own confession.”
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fred_conty
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That is because there is a church point of view outside of court and another view inside a court.
From the church’s point, the seal can only be broken by the confessor and not the penitent.
From the church’s point in a court of law, the court breaks the seal by wanting info from either the penitent or confessor.
Praise be Jesus Christ.
From the church’s point, the seal can only be broken by the confessor and not the penitent.
From the church’s point in a court of law, the court breaks the seal by wanting info from either the penitent or confessor.
Praise be Jesus Christ.
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Hopey
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She is the one giving it, it hasn’t been demanded of her by court or anyone else. They have not broken the seal nor any laws for allowing her to do something she wishes to do, talk about her confession.
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zab
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The priest is the defendant. Do you think it is fair that the plaintiffs can bring up things said under the seal of confession that prevents him from either confirming or denying? How is that fair to the defendant?
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