Breviary: Old or New?

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I was just wondering if anyone prays the old Breviary rather than the new? I suppose that those Catholics who pray the TLM and are devoted to the Office pray the old one. However, I was wondering if Catholics who pray the N.O. choose to pray the old Breviary (for private devotion of course).

I currently pray the entire Office from the “new” breviary. However, I have become interested in the old.

Are there any good resources out there offering more information on the old breviary?

I know that the old breviary is “more involved” (for lack of a better description). Being so, did lay catholics “back in the day” pray it as lay catholics do now (in the new)?
 
I try to pray Lauds, Vespers and Compline from the New Brievary. I don’t know much about the old brievary except that they didn’t have a four week cycle. Type in Divine Office in Google and you should bring up as SSPX site which prays the old brievary. They might give some background information. You could also go to the old Catholic Encyclopedia on New Advent and look up Divine Office there.

I would doubt that the laity prayed the Divine Office in any great numbers before VII, of course third order members may have.

Our curate said that the brievary was going to be changed when they have finished with the Mass translation. Do you know anything about this?
 
I was just wondering if anyone prays the old Breviary rather than the new? I suppose that those Catholics who pray the TLM and are devoted to the Office pray the old one. However, I was wondering if Catholics who pray the N.O. choose to pray the old Breviary (for private devotion of course).

I currently pray the entire Office from the “new” breviary. However, I have become interested in the old.

Are there any good resources out there offering more information on the old breviary?

I know that the old breviary is “more involved” (for lack of a better description). Being so, did lay catholics “back in the day” pray it as lay catholics do now (in the new)?
I do the Matins, and Lauds and Vespers, time permitting. On certain days (like All Souls) I do the whole thing.

As a whole, in the Latin rite, the Divine Office has sadly never really been a part of the lay life. It was usually looked on, and sometimes in someplaces still is, as the work of the clergy. Like when I wanted to get a copy I was told “Oh, you mean the *priest’s *version!” Part was the complexity of the older office (and hence we see the short breviaries like that of Our Lady) but part is also that public celebration of the Office after the Middle Ages gradually disappeared from western Catholic life.

That said, one of the great goals of the Popes and the liturgical movement of the last century was to encourage the praying of the Divine Office. Publications urged familes to pray Prime and Compline as Morning and Night prayer. Some of the better missals had the bright idea of providing Vespers for Sundays and feasts that used the Sunday psalms- all you had to do wa provide the antiphons and hymn in the missal. But in many places, public celebration of Vespers on Sundays and holy days was quite common. From which, we get another custom of Solemn Vespers before the Blessed Sacrament. But I digress.

What sort of resources did you have in mind?

A very nice resource for the breviary texts is breviary.net It is run by sedevacantists and hence gives the Roman breviary in its 1954 form. The rules were changed in 1958 with some parts erased and again, along with the change in calendar and futher erasing, in 1962 (which is the breviary used by the SSPX, FSSP and Indult organisations). Throughout the 1960’s there were changes to this 1962 version and finally it was replaced (for lack of the correct word) with the current Liturgia Horarum.
 
I do the Matins, and Lauds and Vespers, time permitting. On certain days (like All Souls) I do the whole thing.
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As a rank beginner, I am taking it slowly. I have those PATMOS books for Compline and Sunday Vespers. I am now doing those. Once I get a copy of the LOTH (Large Print, thank you very much), I may put some more bits and pieces in.

My goal is to be doing the whole LOTH on a daily basis in 2-3 years. :o
 
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I have checked out breviary.net. I love to pray the Office in the current form. I was, however, curious to see how it was said in days gone by. The Office is something that I love to pray and study and I hope that I will continue to come across some more good resources on its forms / history.

Thanks to you and to all for your responses! Very helpful!
 
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I have checked out breviary.net. I love to pray the Office in the current form. I was, however, curious to see how it was said in days gone by. The Office is something that I love to pray and study and I hope that I will continue to come across some more good resources on its forms / history.

Thanks to you and to all for your responses! Very helpful!
You can also try:
kellerbook.com for different psalter schemas.

The Excellence of the Roman Breviary by Fr. Quigley (type that in Google: it was written after the changes to the breviary made by St. Pius X, but is not a critical study as the title says)

books.google.com have many breviaries like diocesan ones (search: breviarium) but in Latin. One thing I’m thankful to St. Pius X was for the decree that separated the Ordinary from the rest: it is sometimes difficult to navigate with the older ones.
 
Where I am there is only the Missal of Paul VI is used. Yet since getting hold of a Monastic Diurnale, I have been praying the older office. It only has the Day Hours and there are some differences between the Monastic Breviary and the Roman one, but it is sufficient. Besides its in Latin and English and its still smaller and thinner than Everyday Prayer (Day Hours of the modern Divine Office) and its only in English. If I knew Latin I’d be able to use a much smaller Dominican Diurnale that I also have.
 
Yes, the old breviary is quite good.
Are you referring to the Angelus Press Latin/English breviary? I am curious, but have not seen it. I pray the Office each day using the four-volume set.
 
Angelus Press has a Latin/English breviary.

angeluspress.org/index.php?act=warehouse&info=6597
This Breviary only contains “Hours of Sunday Lauds, Prime, Sext, Vespers, and Compline; Prime, Sext, and Compline for each other day of the week.” It cant even be called a Diurnale (Day Hours).

On the other hand the Diurnale from St Michael’s Abbey has every single day hour. Yes its not from the Roman one but the Monastic one, but it has everything except Matins. Though in the Monastic Breviary Tuesday to Friday has the same Terce, Sext and None. Compline is the same every night and except for the Sacred Triduum and All Souls the Nunc Dimittis is not said.

theabbeyshop.com/ProductDetail.php?ProductID=269&NextPage=%2FProductTree.php%3FCategoryID%3D13%26PPP%3D10%26SP%3D10

It doesnt come cheap but its more than worth the money.
 
Thank you, Dermezel85. I am always a bit suspicioius of the single-volume stuff.

In doing a little searching, I came accross this site which campares dozens of breviaries. It is rather interesting.

kellerbook.com/OVERVIEW.HTM

By the way, I ordered the Diurnale from St Michael’s Abbey breviary you suggested. I could not find any sellers in the USA so it will be a while before it will arrive. I will let you know what I think.
 
Thank you, Dermezel85. I am always a bit suspicioius of the single-volume stuff.

In doing a little searching, I came accross this site which campares dozens of breviaries. It is rather interesting.

kellerbook.com/OVERVIEW.HTM

By the way, I ordered the Diurnale from St Michael’s Abbey breviary you suggested. I could not find any sellers in the USA so it will be a while before it will arrive. I will let you know what I think.
allcatholicbooks.com recently added it to their catalogue.

And well with the Monastic Diurnale one gets everything here except Matins.

Compare this with the pre-1911 Roman Breviary (kellerbook.com/PRE-19~1.HTM) and the re-arrangement by Pope St Pius X (kellerbook.com/1911-1~2.HTM)
 
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