Bridging the “Faith Alone” Divide

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Bridging the “Faith Alone” Divide

Catholics and Protestants disagree mightily on the doctrine of justification. However, a closer look at the concepts involved reveals that the two sides are much closer in understanding than the fireworks suggest.

To begin, Catholics accept three theological virtues: faith, hope & charity.

Faith is the theological virtue by which we believe in God and believe all that he has said and revealed to us…because he is truth itself. (CCC 1814)

Hope is the theological virtue by which we desire the kingdom of heaven and eternal life as our happiness, placing our trust in Christ’s promises and relying not on our own strength, but on the help of the Holy Spirit. (CCC 1817)

Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God. (CCC 1822)

In common Catholic usage, faith is unconditional belief in God, hope is unconditional trust in God, and charity is unconditional love for God.

The Catholic definition of faith (from the Greek, pistis) is derived from the sense found in Romans 14 and James 2; namely, that “faith” means intellectual acceptance of a body of theological beliefs known collectively as “the faith”.

This definition is supported by scripture in three ways: 1) the Romans 14 sense of pistis is the more common one in the New Testament; 2) the New Testament contains more than 40 references to “the faith”, so the connection between pistis and intellectual belief is very strong in this usage, and 3) this view of pistis has the advantage of maintaining the distinction between faith and the other two theological virtues and prevents blurring of their characteristics.

Viewing the definitions given above, one will note the similarities between the Catholic virtue of hope and the common Protestant definition of faith; that is, an unconditional trust in Jesus Christ and reliance on the Holy Spirit instead of on one’s own strength. At the same time, Protestants should have no problem accepting the idea that faith—as they define it—must also contain the intellectual assent to God that Catholics call faith since they should agree that a person with saving faith must believe whatever God says. Thus, the Protestant idea of faith includes what Catholics call faith (intellectual assent) and what Catholics call hope (trust in God).

Further, if a Protestant accepts the idea that saving faith is that which works in love (charity) as expressed in Galatians 5:6, then the Protestant and Catholic positions are equivalent. The reason is that a faith which works by charity produces acts of love. But a faith that produces acts of love is a faith that must include the virtue of charity since the virtue of charity is the thing that enables us to perform acts of love in the first place. Thus, the Protestant idea of faith includes what Catholics call charity.

Putting this all together, we see the following:

Protestant idea of faith = Catholic idea of faith + Catholic idea of hope + Catholic idea of charity

From this formula, we can see that Catholics rightly reject the idea that one can be justified by intellectual belief only. So do Protestants. Misunderstandings occur when Catholics reject justification by “faith alone” according to their definition of faith while Protestants cling firmly to this doctrine according to their definition of faith.

Therefore, if Catholics and Protestants come to a mutual understanding of one another’s terminology and the definitions of these terms, they can also agree on what does and does not constitute the faith needed for justification. Justification by Faith Alone (or sola fide) does not need to be a bitterly divisive issue separating Catholics and Protestants.

*Adapted from “*Justification: By ‘Faith Alone’?” by James Akin.
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/SOLAFIDE.htm
 
Hi Randy:

I have read that article (I do like to read). James Akin is a Catholic author I actually like.

If I am to believe Akin (and I have no reason not to), even though I am by no stretch a theologian, I have to conclude that whatever differences exist between us on this very important topic do not rise to the level of essential.

My big issue is that based on reading a number of posts by Catholics in this forum, a substantial number of Catholics disagree with Akin.

Anyway, that is my impression.
 
Hi Randy:

I have read that article (I do like to read). James Akin is a Catholic author I actually like.

If I am to believe Akin (and I have no reason not to), even though I am by no stretch a theologian, I have to conclude that whatever differences exist between us on this very important topic do not rise to the level of essential.

My big issue is that based on reading a number of posts by Catholics in this forum, a substantial number of Catholics disagree with Akin.

Anyway, that is my impression.
I’m responding to you rather than the OP because…well…you know me. I tend to get long winded and want to answer every single point. Doing that would take a lot more words than I’m allotted. 😉

I have never heard of James Akin…and I’m going to go find some stuff by him and read it. He has some very intriguing ideas.

I think his idea of “Faith=belief, hope=trust, charity=love” is an interesting way to look at it. I"ve always combined these ideas, rather than separated them out, so that ‘by faith we are saved,’ means… that faith=the willingness to trust in God, so that you act as if what you believe is true.’

That would encompass all three concepts, I think, so that if you have faith, you WILL have trust and charity, because that’s what God wants for us.

Ok, so that’s simplistic. I’m not firing on all cylanders this morning anyway,
 
Bridging the “Faith Alone” Divide

Catholics and Protestants disagree mightily on the doctrine of justification. However, a closer look at the concepts involved reveals that the two sides are much closer in understanding than the fireworks suggest.

To begin, Catholics accept three theological virtues: faith, hope & charity.

Faith is the theological virtue by which we believe in God and believe all that he has said and revealed to us…because he is truth itself. (CCC 1814)

Hope is the theological virtue by which we desire the kingdom of heaven and eternal life as our happiness, placing our trust in Christ’s promises and relying not on our own strength, but on the help of the Holy Spirit. (CCC 1817)

Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God. (CCC 1822)

In common Catholic usage, faith is unconditional belief in God, hope is unconditional trust in God, and charity is unconditional love for God.

The Catholic definition of faith (from the Greek, pistis) is derived from the sense found in Romans 14 and James 2; namely, that “faith” means intellectual acceptance of a body of theological beliefs known collectively as “the faith”.

This definition is supported by scripture in three ways: 1) the Romans 14 sense of pistis is the more common one in the New Testament; 2) the New Testament contains more than 40 references to “the faith”, so the connection between pistis and intellectual belief is very strong in this usage, and 3) this view of pistis has the advantage of maintaining the distinction between faith and the other two theological virtues and prevents blurring of their characteristics.

Viewing the definitions given above, one will note the similarities between the Catholic virtue of hope and the common Protestant definition of faith; that is, an unconditional trust in Jesus Christ and reliance on the Holy Spirit instead of on one’s own strength. At the same time, Protestants should have no problem accepting the idea that faith—as they define it—must also contain the intellectual assent to God that Catholics call faith since they should agree that a person with saving faith must believe whatever God says. Thus, the Protestant idea of faith includes what Catholics call faith (intellectual assent) and what Catholics call hope (trust in God).

Further, if a Protestant accepts the idea that saving faith is that which works in love (charity) as expressed in Galatians 5:6, then the Protestant and Catholic positions are equivalent. The reason is that a faith which works by charity produces acts of love. But a faith that produces acts of love is a faith that must include the virtue of charity since the virtue of charity is the thing that enables us to perform acts of love in the first place. Thus, the Protestant idea of faith includes what Catholics call charity.

Putting this all together, we see the following:

Protestant idea of faith = Catholic idea of faith + Catholic idea of hope + Catholic idea of charity

From this formula, we can see that Catholics rightly reject the idea that one can be justified by intellectual belief only. So do Protestants. Misunderstandings occur when Catholics reject justification by “faith alone” according to their definition of faith while Protestants cling firmly to this doctrine according to their definition of faith.

Therefore, if Catholics and Protestants come to a mutual understanding of one another’s terminology and the definitions of these terms, they can also agree on what does and does not constitute the faith needed for justification. Justification by Faith Alone (or sola fide) does not need to be a bitterly divisive issue separating Catholics and Protestants.

*Adapted from “*Justification: By ‘Faith Alone’?” by James Akin.
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/SOLAFIDE.htm
Randy,
This is, for the most part, the conclusion I came to quite a while back. It is also well expressed, though incompletely so, in the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification.
vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

Jon
 
I’m responding to you rather than the OP because…well…you know me. I tend to get long winded and want to answer every single point. Doing that would take a lot more words than I’m allotted. 😉

I have never heard of James Akin…and I’m going to go find some stuff by him and read it. He has some very intriguing ideas.

I think his idea of “Faith=belief, hope=trust, charity=love” is an interesting way to look at it. I"ve always combined these ideas, rather than separated them out, so that ‘by faith we are saved,’ means… that faith=the willingness to trust in God, so that you act as if what you believe is true.’

That would encompass all three concepts, I think, so that if you have faith, you WILL have trust and charity, because that’s what God wants for us.

Ok, so that’s simplistic. I’m not firing on all cylanders this morning anyway,
Gee…all you had to do was ask. 😉

Catholic Soteriology According to James Akin

The Necessity of Being Catholic
chnetwork.org/journals/nesschurch/ness_7.htm
What is the Gospel?
cin.org/users/james/ebooks/gospjust/gospel.htm
Salvation Past, Present and Future
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/PASTPRES.htm
Justification in Catholic Teaching
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/JUSTIF.htm
cin.org/users/james/files/justcath.htm
Justification by Christ Alone
cin.org/users/james/files/christ_a.htm
Justification by Grace Alone
cin.org/users/james/files/grace_al.htm
Justification by Faith Alone?
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/SOLAFIDE.htm
Righteousness and Merit
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/RIGHTEOU.htm
A Tiptoe Through TULIP
romancatholicism.org/akin-tulip.htm
The Works of the Law
cin.org/users/james/files/work-law.htm
The Justifications of Abraham
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/ABRAHAM.htm
Justification in James 2
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/JAMES2.htm
Not By Faith Alone – 2
chnetwork.org/journals/justification/justify_8.htm
The Predestination Debate
ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/LOSS.htm

Also by Akin:

The Complex Relationship Between Scripture and Tradition
catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6804
The Crusades 101
catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Dossier/2002-02/article3.html

Finally, just type Jimmy Akin in the search feature of this website.
 
In conversation with many of my protestant friends on this very topic I have come to the very conclusion you’ve brought up. They actually believe the way we do; it’s just not said the way we say it. I actually laugh when I can say the catholic belief in this context, and the protestant says, “yeah, that’s the way we see it.”

hmmmmm, funny isn’t it.

God bless,
Jesse
 
In conversation with many of my protestant friends on this very topic I have come to the very conclusion you’ve brought up. They actually believe the way we do; it’s just not said the way we say it. I actually laugh when I can say the catholic belief in this context, and the protestant says, “yeah, that’s the way we see it.”

hmmmmm, funny isn’t it.

God bless,
Jesse
Most protestants recognize some form of puratory as well, though they staunchly refuse to recognize the use of the word…
 
This strikes me as really odd.

The doctrine of sola fide (along with sola scriptura) is at the heart of the greatest division in the history of Christianity, and my OP shows how the Catholic and Protestant positions can be reconciled by examining the definitions both sides have been using for common terms.

This is huge…yet, no one is responding to this thread.

Why not? 🤷
 
This strikes me as really odd.

The doctrine of sola fide (along with sola scriptura) is at the heart of the greatest division in the history of Christianity, and my OP shows how the Catholic and Protestant positions can be reconciled by examining the definitions both sides have been using for common terms.

This is huge…yet, no one is responding to this thread.

Why not? 🤷
… because it’s been discussed eleventy billion times and is already claimed in the Join Doctrine on Justification. Try telling a protestant about it though, and see if they get angry at you for saying catholics (gasp) believe something the same as them… I’d say the angry rate is about 50% in my experience.
 
This strikes me as really odd.

The doctrine of sola fide (along with sola scriptura) is at the heart of the greatest division in the history of Christianity, and my OP shows how the Catholic and Protestant positions can be reconciled by examining the definitions both sides have been using for common terms.

This is huge…yet, no one is responding to this thread.

Why not? 🤷
Maybe the ones that would have a cow over this are in sort of quiesce mode.

Although I would suspect that 2nd Adam should chime in on this.

I am not saying he would have a cow over this, but that this is normally a topic up his tree.
 
… because it’s been discussed eleventy billion times and is already claimed in the Join Doctrine on Justification. Try telling a protestant about it though, and see if they get angry at you for saying catholics (gasp) believe something the same as them… I’d say the angry rate is about 50% in my experience.
Kinda goes both ways, though. You’ve got your angry corner, too. 😃

But an excellent example is my own LCMS. Refuses to sign on to the JDDJ because it isn’t perfect, or complete. And I say, it is darn good as far as it goes. Sign on, then add a clarification like Rome did. Liking the JDDJ isn’t unpleasant at all for a confessional Lutheran.

Jon
 
This is huge. I have alot of very dear Prostant family and friends . You are right we do hold hold this in common even though I don’t thnk we always realize it on either side because of your different wording we misunderstand eachothers sometimes. I think this is a wondeful God Bless all of you .🙂
 
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