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Is it possible that, somebody with a baptismal certificate, using this law, to sue the church for refusing a gay marriage?
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LEMAITRE
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Laws are getting tested all the time.Is it possible that, somebody with a baptismal certificate, using this law, to sue the church for refusing a gay marriage?
It is only a matter of time before someone tests this law. I’m sure there will be a loophole somewhere that someone will try to advantage of.
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iloveangels
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The Church needs to separate the idea of a civil marriage from the idea of a sacramental marriage like it has in Europe. The Church has got to get out of the business of civil marriages and the sooner the better.
In Paris, for instance, you go to the Justice of the Peace and get married civilly, and then if you’ve prepared with your priest ahead of time for the sacramental part, you go to the Church and get the sacramental religious part. Catholic churches don’t do civil marriages there.
In Paris, for instance, you go to the Justice of the Peace and get married civilly, and then if you’ve prepared with your priest ahead of time for the sacramental part, you go to the Church and get the sacramental religious part. Catholic churches don’t do civil marriages there.
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Artify
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For those churches who still believe in sacramental marriage between one man and one woman, being “open-to-life” and an icon of the Holy Trinity, start collecting money for your “get-your-priest-out-of-jail” fund, for such time when your priest has to deny a “marriage” to someone who has no clue as to what full Christian (Catholic sacramental) “Holy Matrimony” actually is.
And no priest should be blessing civil unions at mass either. (Or marriages where one person has been married before without benefit of annulment) If people want a blessing for their “friendship” they can ask for that after mass, privately. There is no public need for a blessing for a friendship. Friendship is great, but it’s not a basis for society. Marriage and family is, therefore, it does require acknowledgement in the public arena.
And no priest should be blessing civil unions at mass either. (Or marriages where one person has been married before without benefit of annulment) If people want a blessing for their “friendship” they can ask for that after mass, privately. There is no public need for a blessing for a friendship. Friendship is great, but it’s not a basis for society. Marriage and family is, therefore, it does require acknowledgement in the public arena.
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Artify
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I mostly agree with “Iloveangels”, however, the secular progressives want what they see is FULL equality. Which means they want all the smells, bells and whistles of a Catholic marriage ceremony. They won’t be satisfied with just a civil union. They have no idea what a sacramental marriage is, nor do they want to. They just want to force the church to do for them what they see it does for others.
If they church did get out of the business of civil marriages, yes that would make sense. But some in US society would still want to get married before a priest in what orthodox Catholics would consider a sacramental marriage, just because they want to be “equal”.
They have the opportunity to enter into legal civil unions in the US, but still they want “Marriage”. Some are simply ignorant of the meaning of a “sacrament,” some are only partially ignorant, and sincerely want to have God’s sacramental blessing but don’t understand why they can’t have it, and others, many others, are fully aware of the meaning behind the sacaraments and truly do want to “stick it” to the Catholic church.
If they church did get out of the business of civil marriages, yes that would make sense. But some in US society would still want to get married before a priest in what orthodox Catholics would consider a sacramental marriage, just because they want to be “equal”.
They have the opportunity to enter into legal civil unions in the US, but still they want “Marriage”. Some are simply ignorant of the meaning of a “sacrament,” some are only partially ignorant, and sincerely want to have God’s sacramental blessing but don’t understand why they can’t have it, and others, many others, are fully aware of the meaning behind the sacaraments and truly do want to “stick it” to the Catholic church.
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Artify
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Government should get out of religion totally, completely.
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rossum
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Which is why the new proposed law allows churches to opt in or opt out. The churches make their own choices; the Government doesn’t choose for them. (Except for the Church of England, where the Government decided that same sex marriages would not be allowed.)Government should get out of religion totally, completely.
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