British Teenager Becomes 14th Woman to Die From Abortion Drug

[juliee]

by Steven Ertelt

Bristol, England (LifeNews.com) – A new report indicates a teenager died just one week after having a legal abortion – providing more evidence that legal abortions are not safe for women. Manon Jones, an 18-year-old student from Caernarfon, Gwynedd experienced heavy bleeding after the abortion and eventually died.

After the abortion, Jones felt light-headed over subsequent days and began experiencing abnormal bleeding.

She then became what is believed to be the fourteenth woman to have died after using the dangerous abortion drug

Complete story at:
LifeNews.com/int784.htm

 

[MIZER]

I couldn’t access the web site, you posted.

Doesn’t it figure that one must go to a certain website to get this story instead of hearing about it on the evening news and in print?

 

[rpp]

Try this link.

lifenews.com/int784.html

 

[leftistdestroye]

Well, look at the bright side, she is in a better place.

 

[Christy_Beth]

Is she?

 

[KathleenElsie]

Well, look at the bright side, she is in a better place.

The baby & mothers “fate” are in Gods hands. We can pray for them both.

 

[rpp]

And then there are people like this who give us all hope.

Polish athlete hailed for heroic defense of unborn life

Tarnow, Jun. 12, 2008 (CWNews.com) - A Polish volleyball star who was buried on June 9 is being compared by local Catholics to Blessed Gianna Beretta Molla because of her heroic sacrifice for her unborn child.

Agata Mroz, who was originally known for her athletic prowess, was buried in her hometown of Tarnow. Mroz was pregnant with her first child when doctors discovered she had a fatal case of leukemia. After consulting with her husband, Mroz delayed a bone-marrow transplant until after she gave birth to her daughter Liliana on April 4, 2008.

Polish fans dubbed the national team which Mróz led the “Golden Girls,” due to their looks and their successes in international competitions. The national team won the European women’s volleyball championship in 2003 and 2005.

Auxiliary Bishop Marian Florczyk of Kielce, Poland has said that Mroz’s testimony is an example of “love of life, motherhood, the desire to give life, the heroic love of an unborn child.” On June 4, a few hours after Mroz’s death, Polish President Lech Kaczynski announced that she will be posthumously awarded the Polonia Restituta, one of Poland’s highest awards for extraordinary and distinguished service.

Story here.

 

[Starwynd]

People die from swallowing cleaning fluids from under the sink. Let’s ban those too. And HEY! people die from aspirin too!

So let’s ban anything that kills a person!

 

[9Choirs]

People die from swallowing cleaning fluids from under the sink. Let’s ban those too. And HEY! people die from aspirin too!

So let’s ban anything that kills a person!

This is literally the weakest argument I’ve ever seen on this whole site

Ave Maria

 

[Verisimilitude]

Jones reportedly had the abortion to avoid a conflict with her boyfriend’s family as she is a Christian and her boyfriend’s family is Muslim.

This startled me as the impetus for the abortion.

If society allows the woman the sole authority to kill her baby why wouldn’t it allow her sole authority as to the religion it is raised once/if born?

Would a Muslim woman kill her baby if the roles were reversed?

The living unborn has no worth or significance before birth, and the woman reigns supreme over men with regard to ‘choice’. At least in the West and parts elsewhere but if the woman still is not seen as above men in any regard the living being within her is still not thought of as having a right to life.

The living born (until about the age of 12 years) has no personal rights except those as bestowed upon by a parent which could be nothing as well as everything or somewhere in between. The mother has lost her supremecy of rights to the father who now is king of the others (mother and child) fate.

The 12 year old begins to have limited rights but is mostly just held responsible for it’s actions which lasts for the rest of their life. At 13 the sex of the child determines if they will be a king or queen. Other things determine if they are prince or pauper.

To comlete the circle of life the very old lose their rights to that of an infant as they lose the ability to be independent…unless born a prince. The dead are forgotten.

Now add religion and politics to the mix and we have…this forum and others like it to ponder it. The point of all this then is unless we (generally speaking) convince ourselves that human life has equal worth in all forms and ages to be protected and nurtured we doom ourselves in the future like we have doomed those dying by abortion and war, poverty and hopelesness today.

I don’t think it is a political solution as in a law that could be passed like just banning abortion or declare war on drugs to end those things. It is because we are relying on a laws to guide us we have allowed things like abortion to occur like it is now which os out of control. It is a way of thinking that is not based in religion as much as it is instinct that has been dulled over time.

It doesn’t take much to sharpen it but it does take some effort. Something greater than the internet forums I would guess.

 

[leftistdestroye]

KathleenElsie;3799225]

The baby & mothers “fate” are in Gods hands. We can pray for them both.

The baby is in a better place, for sure. The mom? She shouldn’t be in the same place as the mom. I can’t even call her a “mom”. Her muderous deed is done, and she did not reconcile(I’ll bet) You know where she is at.

 

[Christy_Beth]

Well, there may be the off chance that the mother felt true remorse before she died. Maybe. But we won’t really know this side of heaven.

 

[leftistdestroye]

Christy Beth;3800919]

Well, there may be the off chance that the mother felt true remorse before she died. Maybe. But we won’t really know this side of heaven.

You are correct, we don’t really know. And normally I always read the article at hand, but in this particular case, I did not. Now I did, lol I see they were Christians. So yeah, maybe she did have remorse. But I still doubt it. She was having premarital sex for one. She was sleeping with a Muslim, who was having premarital sex, lol. So yeah, it’s possible she had remorse, if she even had the time to have it. But I have no sympathy for any of them. In this modern day and age, it is alomost immpossible to not know what one is doing when it comes to abortion. If one does not want to know, then that is their fault.

But, just incase some here do not know, send me a message, and I can show you a nice little video that shows what abortion really is. I think it is our duty to show people what it is they are in for. It makes Aschuwitz look like kiddy land.

 

[Monicathree]

Starwynd- your statement can’t even be called an argument…
You can only hope when they both saw that little baby come out into a bedpan…they knew and repented…what a shame

Abortion is suuucchh a bleepin lie.

 

[Starwynd]

Starwynd- your statement can’t even be called an argument…

I’m not the one making the argument, which is that because the drug caused a death it should be banned. Well, for the sake of moral consistency, let’s take that logic and apply it evenly to all drugs.

Since people die from all drugs, due to complications from harmful side effects, and many drugs do cause harmful side effects, let’s ban them so people can be protected from harm.

People even die from alcohol poisoning and cancer caused by tobacco too.

But morality is rarely applied evenly. And by that I mean everybody should follow the same rules without exception or double standards or special privaleges and lives by the same standards and holds themselves to the same standards they expect everybody else to live by. However, very few people actually do that. And I’ve never encountered anybody who does that.

I’m not the one who made the argument, which is because the drug did harm let’s ban it. So for once let’s apply that kinbd of logic evenly to all similar situations.

But I bet it won’t be done.

Because there is just too many strong emotions that attached to hot button issues such as and definitely not limited abortion, and it’s always different when it it’s more personal because it’s always easier to make blanket judgments, or knee jerk reactions, against faceless people miles away.

If any drugs cause harm then they should all be banned.

If not then let’s stop playing stupid games and just admit it’s all based on personal bias and prejudism.

 

[Swan]

KathleenElsie;3799225]

The baby is in a better place, for sure. The mom? She shouldn’t be in the same place as the mom. I can’t even call her a “mom”. Her muderous deed is done, and she did not reconcile(I’ll bet) You know where she is at.

And you became God when? I ask because if this isn’t judgement then I don’t know what is. Simmer down. It’s not up to you (though I suspect that’s the part that makes you so mad).

 

[Seatuck]

This happened almost 3 years ago.

 

[leftistdestroye]

Swan;3807192

And you became God when? I ask because if this isn’t judgement then I don’t know what is.

Well go back and re read.

“The mom? She shouldn’t be in the same place as the mom. I can’t even call her a “mom”. Her muderous deed is done, and she did not reconcile(I’ll bet) You know where she is at.”

I am judging her, you bet. She killed an innocent baby. I didn’t condem her, that I cannot do.

Simmer down.

You know, I expected to find likeminded individuals on a Catholic site. But I find myself more aggitated here, than on some liberal, “DU” site. You and I have gone through that before.

It’s not up to you (though I suspect that’s the part that makes you so mad).

No, nice try though. I am upset that an innocent baby was slaughtered. Yeah, abortion boils my blood, to the likes of which you wouldn’t believe.

 

[Eden]

Since people die from all drugs, due to complications from harmful side effects, and many drugs do cause harmful side effects, let’s ban them so people can be protected from harm.

Unlike the other drugs you are referring to, the sole purpose of the abortion drug is to kill a life. Sometimes it ends up taking two. The fact that you don’t see this flaw in your logic is unfortunate.

 

[Monicathree]

I appreciate your calm and logical response Starwynd, and I do see what you are saying. Yes, I am Catholic and staunchly pro life, and emotionally attached to the subject. That being said, I think we might be able to discuss this in a logical way without emoting. However, it is a little late for me right now. So I will come back tomorrow or next day, since tomorrow is Sunday and Father’s day.
Anyway, I guess my preliminary argument would be that yes lots of drugs do have side effects, but those drugs are trying to help the body to work back to the way it is supposed to…it’s trying to get the body to it’s normal healthy state. An abortifacient is going against the body to force the body to do something that is not necessarily normal…miscarriages is still the body acting on its own. Hope that might make sense to you and you see where I am coming from. Take care…