Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity fitting together?

[Contarini]

So you are saying that God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Trinity, The Three in One is coming to Hindus as their many gods as truth or Buddhist through Buddha as truth. I don’t think so, it is probably the work of the Devil.

All truth comes from God.

Do you deny this?

Your approach allows people of all traditions to avoid being challenged by the truth and goodness found outside their traditions. Apart from the fact that the moral and spiritual tendency of this attitude is unhealthy to say the least, it’s pragmatically unwise if you care about evangelism, because it can be used by Muslims or Mormons–or Catholics–just as easily as by confessional Lutherans (which I think is what you are?).

Sixteenth-century Catholics argued that Luther’s teachings came from the Devil. But this was unconvincing to a lot of folks, because it was clear that much of what he was saying was solid Christian piety.

Edwin

 

[Contarini]

It’s a departure from the gated like minded community that was in the way of God.

But being a “solitary practitioner” is surely much narrower than even belonging to a “gated like minded community.” Surely if you want a broader, richer, more open faith, the answer is to continue to participate in the Catholic community while also reaching out to others.

Edwin

 

[Fone_Bone_2001]

How would you know whether someone who told you to follow the Golden Rule, is actually the Devil?

If some entity instructs me to follow the Golden Rule, I don’t care if I don’t/can’t know who it is instructing me to do so: I know the Golden Rule is truly a categorical imperative, so I’ll do my best to follow it regardless.

 

[hn160]

All truth comes from God.

Do you deny this?

Your approach allows people of all traditions to avoid being challenged by the truth and goodness found outside their traditions. Apart from the fact that the moral and spiritual tendency of this attitude is unhealthy to say the least, it’s pragmatically unwise if you care about evangelism, because it can be used by Muslims or Mormons–or Catholics–just as easily as by confessional Lutherans (which I think is what you are?).

Sixteenth-century Catholics argued that Luther’s teachings came from the Devil. But this was unconvincing to a lot of folks, because it was clear that much of what he was saying was solid Christian piety.

Edwin

All people can do good, but before God they are as filthy rags, the key is faith in Christ only. Do you think that Bill Gates and all his donations will get him into Heaven without faith in Christ?

 

[Sufjon]

All people can do good, but before God they are as filthy rags, the key is faith in Christ only. Do you think that Bill Gates and all his donations will get him into Heaven without faith in Christ?

You have pointed out a huge difference between the way some Christians see humanity and the way other faiths see humanity, although I know not all Christians share that view. The view that we, or our attempts at good works are filthy rags is a view you are entitled to have of course. The view in my faith is that we are created by God, and our attempts at reaching God are sacred. So are we. I used to think it was sad that some people saw themselves in the way you described. I have heard it many times. Over time I have come to realize that it is simply a path some people have to take, and I am okay with it. I am just glad it’s not me. I see myself as precious to Christ. That which is loved by the greatest of all things is sacred, and one who is sacred should view themselves as such. To view what God loves as anything less is an affront to God. Of course God will forgive this affront, but why live that way in the first place? Of course the reality is that God doesn’t make filthy rags. If people look at what God has made and see filthy rags, that is something they’ll have to overcome before they can be with God. He’s not going to pick up a filthy rag. He is going to expect you to pull yourself up and come to the realization of what you are first. There is work for us to do, and if we see ourselves as something to be pitied or reviled, then we will be things of pity. Laying around and calling ourselves trash, and that Jesus will save us won’t bring us to God. We have to make something of ourselves, and each of us is expected to rise to the occasion at some point.

Your friend
Sufjon

 

[Kelley_Green]

My Sister Kelley, how indebted I am for your reply.
I just wanted to say that when you say the truth is destined to prevail, I could only recall these verses: Mt 16:18ff: Mt 18:20
“You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.”
So Kelley, for me it is a matter of participating in the defense of our Church. Jesus does not there say why the church will not be overcome by evil. We believe it is because of the protection of the Holy Spirit of God. But still, we men and women must act in compliance with that spirit. It’s okay to say “What’s the difference it can’t happen!” Remember also that Jesus said, “Where two or three are gathered in my name there I am in the midst of them.” That scares and elates me. An agony and an ecstasy if you will. Imagine if the church were reduced to 2 or 3 people. It can happen! We must defend against that possibility!

God Bless You.

I am not here to water down your faith or deter your higher calling. On the contrary, the better you discern conflicts & clarify the mission statement, the greater the chance of success and peaceful resolutions. I honor the hero in mankind, but do not forget it is womankind saving you right back from cradle to grave. Honor thy mother and thy father is equality.

We live in an era when men are mired in identity crisis. When Christianity, and conservative traditions, share this same identity crisis accumulated since post ww2, it becomes harder to sort out. On one extreme of the previous century we had peace at any price, and at this extreme of the century we have war at any price. There are far too many boys in mens bodies aping their fathers shoes. A man they never understood. This international therapy session y’all impose on the globe are seeds of ruin if you don’t (collectively) mature out of this. The generations ahead need you strong.

Men become blind to what it is they are doing/ saying, and I mean to help clarify to enable you to be better men. To be better Christians. To be a better Catholic. To achieve that end you must be courageous enough to face the harsh light of truth applied to yourself and lead by example. Every lie you tell yourself can and will be used against you by predators you intend to fend off. Every bit of false self/ false pride you construct as a ‘shot of courage’ becomes your Achilles heel. Every mine you lay calling it self defense becomes the mine that will destroy you when hubris leads you to lose sight of your own boundaries.

When you’re too close to the problem, defending the sinners in your own family so far that the sins never gets confronted & becomes a family tradition, a new ‘normal’ dysfunction all others must adapt around, you have allowed yourself to become part of the problem. In compliance with the spirit of poor habits or in compliance with (as best we can discern) God’s wishes makes all the difference.

What is God looking at? What precisely are these confused brothers defending?
youtube.com/watch?v=XcMBjiILTRk
What philosophy in a man’s mind allows him to disgrace his uniform this way? It is a tare, and one actual predators (NOT Sufjon, yet Sufjon will be blamed by the criminal) are all too willing to exploit. Be wise brother. It’s most needful.

It is a thread unto itself and one every Christian intent on fidelity needs to examine with penitent hearts. To ground themselves in truth and defend the truth and nothing but. It matters not if a fool in the street burns a Bible in effigy. It symbolizes his own ignorance aping his fathers shoes. It matters not if the entire College of Cardinals descended upon my home to tear up before my eyes a material symbol of my connection to Rome-- my Baptismal certificate revoked. Authority ripping the cross off my neck to avoid facing their own ignorance & sins cannot touch my faith. It makes me exceptionally toxic to liars and a ‘deadbeat’ to thieves. Not to the faithful. What you poorly understand of your own faith renders it indefensible/ neglected.

Emergency mgmt is on my resume. I do not wish for ill to occur, but considering worst case scenarios was part of the gig. That rock of Peter in it’s literal sense means what when a wild eyed maniac manages to deliver atomic bombs laying to waste the Vatican City? As if they could ‘steal’ God from us all? As if a Pope assassinated wouldn’t immediately result in the seat being assumed by a million others standing in line to maintain the torch. When the world population so exasperated by Abrahamic traditions dragging their supremacist rivalries into world theater/ mass destructive behavior that the final solution to settle the holy land question- Mecca, Jerusalem, Bethlehem- is to make permanent craters of them and let the ocean have it’s way with what no Muslim, Jew, or Christian could be trusted to honor as sacred. Trampling all that is truly precious to vie for a piece of God is not of God. Would all in Abrahamic traditions declare on that day ‘faith no more’? All who would never had faith to speak of. God is not real estate.

The rock of Peter must be maintained within every sincerely practicing Christian. If you (and all Catholics) are satisfied you’re Philadelphia and couldn’t possibly be wrong about anything you’re more likely Laodicea or Ephesus. Right where you are in Church, brother Michael, aspire to be Philadelphia. Lead by example. There is no marauding band of Hindu’s breaching the Vatican. There exists a mile high pile of world grievances laid at the Vatican door. I willingly face the charges if it makes me a better Christian, but that does not mean the Vatican, or any denomination, is innocent when they are not.

 

[Sufjon]

So you are saying that God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Trinity, The Three in One is coming to Hindus as their many gods as truth or Buddhist through Buddha as truth. I don’t think so, it is probably the work of the Devil.

I have explained this before, but I don’t think you have read the whole thread. Hindus have one God. Let me put it to you this way. If I told you that you have three Gods because of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, you’d snap back that they are one. “God in three persons.” Same with Hindus in regards to our manifestations of God. Same God, different manifestations. That is our view.

Your friend
Sufjon

 

[Kelley_Green]

But being a “solitary practitioner” is surely much narrower than even belonging to a “gated like minded community.” Surely if you want a broader, richer, more open faith, the answer is to continue to participate in the Catholic community while also reaching out to others.

Edwin

Let us prey, or let us pray? Which is Christian?

Edwin I truly appreciate your higher standard of decorum in this thread. Thank you for that, but patience for overgrown children is not my virtue. I like to believe I’ve made lemonade of my weakness of virtue and vent on behalf of Quakers/ Priests just a bit so they can chuckle over this pathetic state of human relations and get back to work. If you’ve read my posts you might note a common theme. When all too many turn reasonable consideration of a point of view into a competing game of supremacy they’re not in service to God. They’re salesmen preying upon one another, not praying with one another engaged in constructive discovery of truth. Pour through any thread any subject, you’ll see the exact same pattern.

I found it more effective to serve my maker by standing above the hatfield- mccoy fray and hand each side the respective beam of their own eye knowing full well the peacemaker uttering unflattering truth will be the first shot at. Most arguments are actually an argument someone is having with themselves dragging others into drama. The strength of Christians lies in their embrace of personal accountability and competing with themselves aspiring towards God. Not keeping up with Joneses, pooh flinging or scapegoat contests hiding their own accountability in deference to fickle populist sentiments/ panhandling for emotional validation.

When Johnny needs to work on his spelling and Janey needs to work on her math, Johnny blaming Janey for his poor spelling and refusing to help with math ensures they will both remain stuck on stupid. Who is that expert whispering hate in Johnny’s ear about Janey? Who is that expert whispering hate in Janey’s ear about Johnny? My protestant and catholic kin tossed nutter theologians of both sides in the fireplace for thanksgiving.**** We’re far saner that way and glad to report none have declared faith no more or stood in line to catch a comet paradigm.

Anyone with complaints about my driving, please dial 1-800- I’m telling God on you. I’m not above criticism, a lifelong eager pupil, willing to own my sins/ errors fully. I’m listening. SHOOT!

**** Disclaimer trope: No live protestant or catholic was harmed in this demonstration.

 

[Contarini]

I found it more effective to serve my maker by standing above the hatfield- mccoy fray

But by doing so, you’re estranging yourself from both sides. I know you don’t mean it this way, but it comes across as if you think yourself too good to be either a Catholic or Protestant. You give the impression that you have some kind of God’s-eye view that can discern what is good in both sides. I often fall into this way of speaking as well (and get called out for it on this forum). I think it’s a dangerous temptation. None of us sees as God sees, and so none of us can make these kinds of magisterial pronouncements about the folly of the foolish fluttering factions. Sure, Protestants and Catholics have both done a lot of dumb and wicked things. And I’m not saying that we can’t make strong statements about that when clear moral intuitions are involved (as when people kill each other over religious differences). But in among all the folly and wickedness, there may be wisdom to which you or I (as individuals) are blind.

That’s why I repeat: I don’t think you’re actually furthering your own progress toward greater wisdom and holiness by trying to remain “above the fray.” We are meant to grow toward the truth in community.

Edwin

 

[Michael19682]

But by doing so, you’re estranging yourself from both sides. I know you don’t mean it this way, but it comes across as if you think yourself too good to be either a Catholic or Protestant. You give the impression that you have some kind of God’s-eye view that can discern what is good in both sides. I often fall into this way of speaking as well (and get called out for it on this forum). I think it’s a dangerous temptation. None of us sees as God sees, and so none of us can make these kinds of magisterial pronouncements about the folly of the foolish fluttering factions. Sure, Protestants and Catholics have both done a lot of dumb and wicked things. And I’m not saying that we can’t make strong statements about that when clear moral intuitions are involved (as when people kill each other over religious differences). But in among all the folly and wickedness, there may be wisdom to which you or I (as individuals) are blind.

That’s why I repeat: I don’t think you’re actually furthering your own progress toward greater wisdom and holiness by trying to remain “above the fray.” We are meant to grow toward the truth in community.

Edwin

I see her as capable of understanding paradox, even mastering it to the point of using it polemically. This may very well draw disagreement from Kelley, but she is not incapable of defending herself–so capable, in fact, that what to you and I is an argument is to she a simple participatory observation. That really is wisdom in the ethnographic experimentalist tradition. A calling in itself that community proper with all its informal and formal constraints often prohibits the development of. We need at least some kind of consent from others to learn about them. Who is to say what Kelley has encountered in her travels in the way of consent to learn? It simply can’t be judged naively.

 

[wisdomseeker]

This has been a long thread. I just thought about this. I think that Romans is a good reading.

I was thinking, how important is Jesus? Well, here we have Jesus being sent to a people chosen by God, who followed the Laws of God, who followed the First Commanded to love God above all things. Yet, God determines that believing in His Son seems to be a must. He says so when He condemns Israelites for not believing in His Son, although they believe God. figure this one out.

St Paul says, that if God did not spear His own people how much more easy would be for us gentiles to be cut off from the root which we are attached. figure this one out.

Today, there seems to be quite a few excuses for those who reject Christ and His Church. figure this one out.

Of course, there are those who never really heard the Church, and died before, that I understand why God would save them anyway, but those who hear the CC teach about Jesus and rejects her, I cannot say what will happened to them, just that I leave it to God alone.

How important is Jesus for salvation? just look to Israelites and their rejection of the Messiah.
The Church is here for a purpose. To ignore her is to undermine God’s Plan. I will leave to the Just and Great Judge of the Courts of Heaven.

 

[Contarini]

This has been a long thread. I just thought about this. I think that Romans is a good reading.

I was thinking, how important is Jesus? Well, here we have Jesus being sent to a people chosen by God, who followed the Laws of God, who followed the First Commanded to love God above all things. Yet, God determines that believing in His Son seems to be a must. He says so when He condemns Israelites for not believing in His Son, although they believe God. figure this one out.

St Paul says, that if God did not spear His own people how much more easy would be for us gentiles to be cut off from the root which we are attached. figure this one out.

Today, there seems to be quite a few excuses for those who reject Christ and His Church. figure this one out.

Of course, there are those who never really heard the Church, and died before, that I understand why God would save them anyway, but those who hear the CC teach about Jesus and rejects her, I cannot say what will happened to them, just that I leave it to God alone.

How important is Jesus for salvation? just look to Israelites and their rejection of the Messiah.
The Church is here for a purpose. To ignore her is to undermine God’s Plan. I will leave to the Just and Great Judge of the Courts of Heaven.

I for one am not disputing that one cannot be saved if one deliberately turns one’s back on the truth as revealed in Jesus and His Body.

I don’t see myself and others “making excuses,” but rather gladly recognizing that God is at work in the world in many ways, all of which are related (in ways we may not even understand) to the incarnation of God in Jesus of Nazareth.

You are distorting Scripture when you take passages that talk about the leaders of God’s people rejecting God Incarnate and apply them to people who lived before the coming of Jesus, or who never heard of Jesus, or who have encountered Jesus only in the flawed and sometimes demonic guises in which His people have presented Him. (Classic example: a Jew hounded by a Christian mob–the Christians put swords to his throat and tell him to be baptized or die–would he be more faithful to the Divine Logos under these circumstances by accepting or refusing baptism? I think the latter.)

I would apply to world religions what the Orthodox say about other Christian churches: I know where the Logos is to be found; I do not know where He is not to be found.

Edwin

 

[wisdomseeker]

I for one am not disputing that one cannot be saved if one deliberately turns one’s back on the truth as revealed in Jesus and His Body.

I don’t see myself and others “making excuses,” but rather gladly recognizing that God is at work in the world in many ways, all of which are related (in ways we may not even understand) to the incarnation of God in Jesus of Nazareth.

You are distorting Scripture when you take passages that talk about the leaders of God’s people rejecting God Incarnate and apply them to people who lived before the coming of Jesus, or who never heard of Jesus, or who have encountered Jesus only in the flawed and sometimes demonic guises in which His people have presented Him. (Classic example: a Jew hounded by a Christian mob–the Christians put swords to his throat and tell him to be baptized or die–would he be more faithful to the Divine Logos under these circumstances by accepting or refusing baptism? I think the latter.)

I would apply to world religions what the Orthodox say about other Christian churches: I know where the Logos is to be found; I do not know where He is not to be found.

Edwin

Which Scripture did I distort? Only the CC has the authority to teach. Those outside the Church seem to have opinions about God. I for one only listen to what the Church teaches. I only hear the Gospel from the CC. I just pointed out what God did with His own people when they rejected His Son. You should read the Parable of the Evil Servants.

I am very aware of those who died before Christ came. I also know that Moses and Elijah showed themselves to Jesus and the Apostles.

I don’t think you can understand what I am saying.

 

[Contarini]

Which Scripture did I distort? Only the CC has the authority to teach. Those outside the Church seem to have opinions about God. I for one only listen to what the Church teaches. I only hear the Gospel from the CC. I just pointed out what God did with His own people when they rejected His Son. You should read the Parable of the Evil Servants.

I am very aware of those who died before Christ came. I also know that Moses and Elijah showed themselves to Jesus and the Apostles.

I don’t think you can understand what I am saying.

I understand that you’re taking specific passages referring to Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus and applying them more broadly.

If you’re aware of people who died before Christ came, why are you speaking in such broad terms, as if all such people (and those who follow them today) are in the same boat as Jewish leaders who rejected Jesus?

I’m very aware of the parable of the “Evil Servants,” and I know who the Evil Servants are: those who boast of their special covenantal relationship with God as if they were owners of God’s vineyard rather than tenants.

You seem to think that this condemnation applies more severely to those outside the covenant. I think you are the one who misses the point of the parable, and indeed of all Jesus’ language of condemnation. It’s quite true, as conservative Christians like to point out, that most of our language about hell comes from the Gospels. But that’s because Jesus was dealing with those who were in a covenant relationship with God and were abusing that relationship.

Edwin

 

[wisdomseeker]

I understand that you’re taking specific passages referring to Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus and applying them more broadly.

If you’re aware of people who died before Christ came, why are you speaking in such broad terms, as if all such people (and those who follow them today) are in the same boat as Jewish leaders who rejected Jesus?

I’m very aware of the parable of the “Evil Servants,” and I know who the Evil Servants are: those who boast of their special covenantal relationship with God as if they were owners of God’s vineyard rather than tenants.

You seem to think that this condemnation applies more severely to those outside the covenant. I think you are the one who misses the point of the parable, and indeed of all Jesus’ language of condemnation. It’s quite true, as conservative Christians like to point out, that most of our language about hell comes from the Gospels. But that’s because Jesus was dealing with those who were in a covenant relationship with God and were abusing that relationship.

Edwin

I give up as I don’t get into fruitless back and forth arguments. I stand by what I have stated.

 

[Michael19682]

I understand that you’re taking specific passages referring to Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus and applying them more broadly.

I’m very aware of the parable of the “Evil Servants,” and I know who the Evil Servants are: those who boast of their special covenantal relationship with God as if they were owners of God’s vineyard rather than tenants.

It’s quite true, as conservative Christians like to point out, that most of our language about hell comes from the Gospels. But that’s because Jesus was dealing with those who were in a covenant relationship with God and were abusing that relationship.

Edwin

Matthew tells us that it was the Chief Priests and the Pharisee’s who, upon hearing the parable, knew it was aimed at them. They may boast of their special historical relationship with the patriarchs, but their indignity seems to stem from their inward rejection of humility, that they are the tenants in the parable and that God will put them to death and give his vineyard to the Church of God, the Catholic Church under the infallible guidance of the bishop of Rome [Peter, the Rock].

But that’s because Jesus was dealing with those who were in a covenant relationship with God and were abusing that relationship.

How do you know why Jesus spoke the way he did? Among other things, he was a Rabbi. His teachings are not of the norm. His teachings were both extraordinary and novel in Jewish scripture. He was the first minister of a New Covenant. Also, I’ve observed in thought and prayer that Jesus only spoke of Hell and those who might go there when they really pushed him with too many questions about his authority.

Matthew 22:45-46. Points out that silence if oft the best thing in the presence of the lord. The parables for Catholics are many, many things. We find ourselves in part through a study of them in groups and individually. Their logic is often paradoxical and they encourage the humble (often to silence) and enrage the evil, who are blinded by them.

The parables in a sense are an aroma of life for those destined to glory (in silence or otherwise) and a self same aroma of death for the evil who think that what they have need be taken away by a new covenant (as if they possessed no freewill to share their power and privilege as Jesus would do for our salvation). The Pharisees and Chief Priests are far more com-parable to non Catholic sects in America in that these folks live in relative comfort in America. True, they throw welfare and money at problems, but the nets and the labor come primarily from the unfairly oppressed–most often Catholics.

The Catholic Church is the victim son of the parable.

(I believe that many people will not convert to Catholicism because they have become like Pharisees and Chief Priests in their non Catholic sects. They are worried about humility. Catholics may debate you, but they are a humble lot. No where on earth does a man or woman submit to authority in blindness that he or she may See the truth, which is omnipresent. One does not commute God through a democratic process, as if he were capable of winning or losing a ballot. One submits to his authority in humble silence before prayer, during prayer, and after prayer.)

 

[hn160]

You have pointed out a huge difference between the way some Christians see humanity and the way other faiths see humanity, although I know not all Christians share that view. The view that we, or our attempts at good works are filthy rags is a view you are entitled to have of course. The view in my faith is that we are created by God, and our attempts at reaching God are sacred. So are we. I used to think it was sad that some people saw themselves in the way you described. I have heard it many times. Over time I have come to realize that it is simply a path some people have to take, and I am okay with it. I am just glad it’s not me. I see myself as precious to Christ. That which is loved by the greatest of all things is sacred, and one who is sacred should view themselves as such. To view what God loves as anything less is an affront to God. Of course God will forgive this affront, but why live that way in the first place? Of course the reality is that God doesn’t make filthy rags. If people look at what God has made and see filthy rags, that is something they’ll have to overcome before they can be with God. He’s not going to pick up a filthy rag. He is going to expect you to pull yourself up and come to the realization of what you are first. There is work for us to do, and if we see ourselves as something to be pitied or reviled, then we will be things of pity. Laying around and calling ourselves trash, and that Jesus will save us won’t bring us to God. We have to make something of ourselves, and each of us is expected to rise to the occasion at some point.

Your friend
Sufjon

Regardless of the way some Christians see other faiths as equals or might have some so called truths, that does not make it right, All other faiths will take you to hell on the Last Day. Christian have One God, Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, Three in One, but one God. I advise you to read the Anthanasian Creed.
Anthanasian Creed

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance.

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one Eternal.

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one Uncreated, and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet they are not three gods, but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord. And yet not three lords, but one Lord.

For as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge each Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, so we are also forbidden by the catholic religion to say that there are three gods or three lords.

The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

And in the Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another, but all three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.

He therefore that will be saved is must think thus of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of the substance of his mother, born in the world; perfect God and perfect man, of a rational soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching His godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His manhood; who, although He is God and man, yet he is not two, but one Christ; one, not by conversion of the godhead into flesh but by taking of the manhood into God; one altogether; not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, He sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead. At His coming all men will rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

 

[Sufjon]

Regardless of the way some Christians see other faiths as equals or might have some so called truths, that does not make it right, All other faiths will take you to hell on the Last Day. Christian have One God, Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, Three in One, but one God. I advise you to read the Anthanasian Creed.
Anthanasian Creed

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance.

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one Eternal.

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one Uncreated, and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet they are not three gods, but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord. And yet not three lords, but one Lord.

For as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge each Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, so we are also forbidden by the catholic religion to say that there are three gods or three lords.

The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

And in the Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another, but all three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.

He therefore that will be saved is must think thus of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of the substance of his mother, born in the world; perfect God and perfect man, of a rational soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching His godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His manhood; who, although He is God and man, yet he is not two, but one Christ; one, not by conversion of the godhead into flesh but by taking of the manhood into God; one altogether; not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, He sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead. At His coming all men will rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

Just read it. Sounds like something they would read to you before you were burned at the stake or tortured. Anyway, I am not afraid of Jesus. You can be if you like. I will have to say that I am bloody fearful of some of His followers.

Your friend
Sufjon

 

[ibneahmad]

and the idea of 1 God;

Do Buddhists believe in the ONE- Creator God as you have mentioned?

 

[rossum]

Do Buddhists believe in the Creartor God as you have mentioned?

In general no. The question is not considered relevant since, if there is a creator, he/she/it/they cannot attain nirvana for us. We have to attain nirvana for ourselves.

rossum