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estesbob
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You already have. its called Chritianity-Wicca-Buddhism
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estesbob
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Why would it matter if he called you a Muslim-all religions are connected, right?
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blacktiger057
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I agree with you 100%.
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blacktiger057
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Almost all religions. Satanism is not ‘of the light’. The reason I was somewhat offended at being called a muslim is because I share little beliefs. And in the quran it says some pretty aweful things. But that was in an entirely different thread.
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Gearoidin
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Buddhism is a way of life which is not based upon the concept of a Creator God. It does not believe that God (or gods, depending on your religion) , is responsible for creation, salvation or judgment.
My husband and his family practise Buddhism according to the Shingon school of Buddhism. According to Shingon, enlightenment is possible within this life. This belief is based on the spiritual potential of every living being called Buddha-nature. The Dalai Lama, sees the Buddha Nature as the “original clear light of mind" but it doesn’t really exist as it is Emptiness. Some people see it as a metaphor for the potential of all humans to achieve Buddha status.
Shingon venerates 13 Buddhas and Bodhisattvas altogether, for example Shakyamuni Buddha, Amitabha Buddha (personification of compasssion) Jizo etc. Mahavairocana (also called Vairocana which means brilliant and luminous ) is the Universal Principle which underlies all Buddhist teachings. Vairocana is seen as the embodiment of the Buddhist concept of shunyata or Emptiness and is seen as a personification of Wisdom.
I’m not sure if this is making any sense. So to get back to your question, no my husband doesn’t worship God in the Christain sense but he doesn’t deny His existance either.
There is a load of information about Buddhism in the net and I am sure you will find a better description than I can give you.
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Greg27
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I suspect this is an attempt to bait posters.
Buddha is basically the founder of a major world religion. Buddha sought to answer the eternal problem of evil and suffering in the world. Indian myth had a rather bleak view of the world and the universe, seeing this existence as one of an infinite number of worlds through which all beings are caught in endless transmigration. Indian religions then proposed salvation occurs when the veil of ignorance is lifted by training the human mind to achieve transcendant states of concious awareness which show the true nature of reality as it is, not as how it appears. Hinduism developed a complex system of meditations called yoga which help the meditator contemplate phenomena in an ascending way until they reach non-dual awareness of the Absolute.
Buddha had an existentially transforming encounter with pain and suffering when he was about 29, and had lived a secluded and rich life. Much like many people today, the Buddha was disillusioned with the emptiness of crass materialism in the face of injustice, poverty, evil and suffering. He left his wife and family and estate, shaved off his hair, took an ascetic’s robe and sought for enlightenment.
He trained under several teachers and mastered yoga techniques, but found none provided the peace and release from suffering he was looking for. He then engaged in a extreme set of mortifications which nearly killed him, and realised this as well did not lead to salvation.
He then nursed himself back to health, ate properly, and began to meditate in a new way. He then, according to Buddhist legend, achieved enlightenment which was everlasting and represented release from pain and suffering in a final and absolute sense. Buddha spent the rest of his life teaching the paths which led to it and founding the Buddhist monastic tradition.
Buddhism developed into complex forms, including Theravada, Mahyana, and Tibetan Buddhism. Buddhism also developed a very rich philosophical tradition as well as diverse arrays of meditation techniques which as with Hinduism, aim to get the meditator to achieve a transcendant state of non-dual awareness of the Absolute called nirvana. Nirvana however is not just in the mind but is also in a mysterious way Reality itself, but because it is ineffable it can only be experienced and indirectly described in terms of negation (what it is not), paradox, silence, and sometimes also in positive terms (perfect peace and bliss, the refuge, etc). The Buddhist doctor Nagarjuna captures this approach quite beautifully in his ‘Transcendent Wisdom’ which negates any conceptions of nirvana, including that it is absolutely nothing, or an eternal being. This is continued in the rich paradoxes of Zen and Chan Buddhism.
Perhaps the main flaw with Buddhism from a Christian perspective is its downplaying of the material world. The material world and phenomena in general seem to need to be removed or bypassed in order to unite to the Absolute, which is infinitely beyond the world of change and appearance, and is generally in Buddhism, a place of pain and evil until one achieves nirvana and sees the world past the veil of ignorance. Yet there is also a very rich philosophy of mind and meditation in Buddhism which sheds key light on philosophical questions pondered in Western metaphysics and philosophy, and also a spiritual tradition which is very similar to the monasticism in Christianity, particularly that of the desert, founded by St Anthony. The ideas of the Christian monk Evagrius come close to those of Buddhism, especially in his understanding of the mind.
The biggest positive of Buddhism is its emphasis on non-violence, unconditional love without selfish attachment to all creatures, compassion, and joy at the happiness of others free from greed, hate, and lust.
Buddha is basically the founder of a major world religion. Buddha sought to answer the eternal problem of evil and suffering in the world. Indian myth had a rather bleak view of the world and the universe, seeing this existence as one of an infinite number of worlds through which all beings are caught in endless transmigration. Indian religions then proposed salvation occurs when the veil of ignorance is lifted by training the human mind to achieve transcendant states of concious awareness which show the true nature of reality as it is, not as how it appears. Hinduism developed a complex system of meditations called yoga which help the meditator contemplate phenomena in an ascending way until they reach non-dual awareness of the Absolute.
Buddha had an existentially transforming encounter with pain and suffering when he was about 29, and had lived a secluded and rich life. Much like many people today, the Buddha was disillusioned with the emptiness of crass materialism in the face of injustice, poverty, evil and suffering. He left his wife and family and estate, shaved off his hair, took an ascetic’s robe and sought for enlightenment.
He trained under several teachers and mastered yoga techniques, but found none provided the peace and release from suffering he was looking for. He then engaged in a extreme set of mortifications which nearly killed him, and realised this as well did not lead to salvation.
He then nursed himself back to health, ate properly, and began to meditate in a new way. He then, according to Buddhist legend, achieved enlightenment which was everlasting and represented release from pain and suffering in a final and absolute sense. Buddha spent the rest of his life teaching the paths which led to it and founding the Buddhist monastic tradition.
Buddhism developed into complex forms, including Theravada, Mahyana, and Tibetan Buddhism. Buddhism also developed a very rich philosophical tradition as well as diverse arrays of meditation techniques which as with Hinduism, aim to get the meditator to achieve a transcendant state of non-dual awareness of the Absolute called nirvana. Nirvana however is not just in the mind but is also in a mysterious way Reality itself, but because it is ineffable it can only be experienced and indirectly described in terms of negation (what it is not), paradox, silence, and sometimes also in positive terms (perfect peace and bliss, the refuge, etc). The Buddhist doctor Nagarjuna captures this approach quite beautifully in his ‘Transcendent Wisdom’ which negates any conceptions of nirvana, including that it is absolutely nothing, or an eternal being. This is continued in the rich paradoxes of Zen and Chan Buddhism.
Perhaps the main flaw with Buddhism from a Christian perspective is its downplaying of the material world. The material world and phenomena in general seem to need to be removed or bypassed in order to unite to the Absolute, which is infinitely beyond the world of change and appearance, and is generally in Buddhism, a place of pain and evil until one achieves nirvana and sees the world past the veil of ignorance. Yet there is also a very rich philosophy of mind and meditation in Buddhism which sheds key light on philosophical questions pondered in Western metaphysics and philosophy, and also a spiritual tradition which is very similar to the monasticism in Christianity, particularly that of the desert, founded by St Anthony. The ideas of the Christian monk Evagrius come close to those of Buddhism, especially in his understanding of the mind.
The biggest positive of Buddhism is its emphasis on non-violence, unconditional love without selfish attachment to all creatures, compassion, and joy at the happiness of others free from greed, hate, and lust.
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BrianK2007
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Hoy friggen mas.this topic was named bible and killing unbelievers but christians wanna talk about buddhism so i will open anew thread about bible and killing non-believers
Dude, switch to decaf!
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water
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That is not even a main one. To me, the main one is Buddhism does not know God - You don’t reincarnate yourself next life from, say human being to …an animal or vice versa…
That is true. I have a friend whose mother converts to Catholic. She said like her Buddhist religion, Catholic teaches about love, etc…and that’s one of the things which attracted her into Catholic.
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estesbob
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Hes muslim and claims that the Koran preaches only peace and love and the Bible (especially the Jews in it,check out his “what dogs” thread) preach hate and murder.
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dmelosi
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Please remember, you mistakenly thought I meant you when I said the original poster was a Muslim. The person who started the thread was a Muslim as stated in his profile.
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paarsurrey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blacktiger057
All religions are connected.
There is a strong connection between Buddha and Jesus and their teachings. This has been highlighted by PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908 in his book “Jesus in India”. According to him Buddha prophesized about coming of Jesus (Messiah) in India, and so when Jesus came to India Buddha’s followers in great numbers accepted Jesus as a true ProphetMessenger of GodAllahYHWH.
I give here one or two passages from the above book:
"Buddhistic records also show that Gautama Buddha prophesied the advent of a second Buddha who was named Metteyya. This prophecy is contained in Laggawati Sutatta – a Buddhist record. It is mentioned on page 142 of Oldenberg’s book. The prophecy reads*:
He will be the leader of a band of disciples numbering hundreds of thousands, as I am now the leader of bands of disciples, numbering hundreds.
It may be noticed here that the Hebrew words, Masiha, is the same as the Pali, Metteyya. It is a matter of common knowledge that when a word is transferred from one language to another it very often undergoes a change: an English word, too, when imported by another language, undergoes a change: for example, Max Muller, in the course of a list given on page 318 of Volume 11 of Sacred Books of the East, says: the th of the English alphabet becomes… in Persian or Arabic… like S. Keeping these changes in view one can readily understand that the word Messiah became Metteyya in the Pali language, which means that the future Metteyya prophesied by the Buddha is in reality the Messiah – no one else. This finds support in the fact that the Buddha had prophesied that the Faith he had founded would not endure in the world for more than five hundred years; that at the time of the decline of his principles and teachings, the Metteyya would come to this land and would re-establish them in the world. Now we know that Jesus appeared five hundred years after the Buddha, and that just as the Buddha had fixed the limit of time for the decline of his Faith, Buddhism went into a state of decline at the appointed time. Then did Jesus, after his escape from the Cross, travel to this land; and the Buddhists recognised him and treated him with great reverence. There is no doubt that the moral teaching and spiritual exercises taught by the Buddha were resuscitated by Jesus. Christians admit that the Sermon on the Mount of the Gospels and the other moral teachings are the same as had been preached to the world by the Buddha five hundred years before. They also state that the Buddha did not only teach moral precepts; he also taught other great truths. In their view the title Light of Asia applied to the Buddha is highly appropriate. Now, in accordance with the prophecy of the Buddha, Jesus appeared five hundred years after; and as admitted by most Christian scholars, his teaching was the same as the teaching of the Buddha. There is no doubt, therefore, that he appeared in the ‘spirit’ of the Buddha. In Oldenberg’s book, on the authority of Laggawati Sutatta, is stated that the followers of the Buddha, looking to the future, consoled themselves with the idea that, as disciples of the Metteyya, they would have the bliss of salvation; i.e., they were certain that the Metteyya would come to them and that they would attain salvation through him, for, the words in which the Buddha had held out the hope for the Metteyya implied that his disciples would meet him. The statement of the above-mentioned book reinforces the conviction that for the guidance of those people God had created two sets of circumstances: firstly, that by reason of the title Asaf mentioned in Genesis chapter 3, verse 10, which means ‘one who rallies a people’, Jesus could not but visit the land where the Jews had come to establish themselves; secondly, that in accordance with the prophecy of the Buddha, it was essential that the followers of the Buddha should see him and should profit from him spiritually. Considering both these points together it becomes almost certain that Jesus must have visited Tibet. The fact that Christian teaching and ritual have deeply affected Tibetan Buddhism necessitates the belief that Jesus must have visited the Tibetan people. Moreover, the fact that the zealous followers of Buddhism, as stated in Buddhistic records, had always expected to meet him, cries aloud that this ardent desire of theirs heralded his visit to this country. In the face of both these facts, an impartial person has no need to search through Buddhistic records for the statement that Jesus did come to Tibet.
Originally Posted by blacktiger057
All religions are connected.
Hi
There is a strong connection between Buddha and Jesus and their teachings. This has been highlighted by PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908 in his book “Jesus in India”. According to him Buddha prophesized about coming of Jesus (Messiah) in India, and so when Jesus came to India Buddha’s followers in great numbers accepted Jesus as a true ProphetMessenger of GodAllahYHWH.
I give here one or two passages from the above book:
"Buddhistic records also show that Gautama Buddha prophesied the advent of a second Buddha who was named Metteyya. This prophecy is contained in Laggawati Sutatta – a Buddhist record. It is mentioned on page 142 of Oldenberg’s book. The prophecy reads*:
He will be the leader of a band of disciples numbering hundreds of thousands, as I am now the leader of bands of disciples, numbering hundreds.
It may be noticed here that the Hebrew words, Masiha, is the same as the Pali, Metteyya. It is a matter of common knowledge that when a word is transferred from one language to another it very often undergoes a change: an English word, too, when imported by another language, undergoes a change: for example, Max Muller, in the course of a list given on page 318 of Volume 11 of Sacred Books of the East, says: the th of the English alphabet becomes… in Persian or Arabic… like S. Keeping these changes in view one can readily understand that the word Messiah became Metteyya in the Pali language, which means that the future Metteyya prophesied by the Buddha is in reality the Messiah – no one else. This finds support in the fact that the Buddha had prophesied that the Faith he had founded would not endure in the world for more than five hundred years; that at the time of the decline of his principles and teachings, the Metteyya would come to this land and would re-establish them in the world. Now we know that Jesus appeared five hundred years after the Buddha, and that just as the Buddha had fixed the limit of time for the decline of his Faith, Buddhism went into a state of decline at the appointed time. Then did Jesus, after his escape from the Cross, travel to this land; and the Buddhists recognised him and treated him with great reverence. There is no doubt that the moral teaching and spiritual exercises taught by the Buddha were resuscitated by Jesus. Christians admit that the Sermon on the Mount of the Gospels and the other moral teachings are the same as had been preached to the world by the Buddha five hundred years before. They also state that the Buddha did not only teach moral precepts; he also taught other great truths. In their view the title Light of Asia applied to the Buddha is highly appropriate. Now, in accordance with the prophecy of the Buddha, Jesus appeared five hundred years after; and as admitted by most Christian scholars, his teaching was the same as the teaching of the Buddha. There is no doubt, therefore, that he appeared in the ‘spirit’ of the Buddha. In Oldenberg’s book, on the authority of Laggawati Sutatta, is stated that the followers of the Buddha, looking to the future, consoled themselves with the idea that, as disciples of the Metteyya, they would have the bliss of salvation; i.e., they were certain that the Metteyya would come to them and that they would attain salvation through him, for, the words in which the Buddha had held out the hope for the Metteyya implied that his disciples would meet him. The statement of the above-mentioned book reinforces the conviction that for the guidance of those people God had created two sets of circumstances: firstly, that by reason of the title Asaf mentioned in Genesis chapter 3, verse 10, which means ‘one who rallies a people’, Jesus could not but visit the land where the Jews had come to establish themselves; secondly, that in accordance with the prophecy of the Buddha, it was essential that the followers of the Buddha should see him and should profit from him spiritually. Considering both these points together it becomes almost certain that Jesus must have visited Tibet. The fact that Christian teaching and ritual have deeply affected Tibetan Buddhism necessitates the belief that Jesus must have visited the Tibetan people. Moreover, the fact that the zealous followers of Buddhism, as stated in Buddhistic records, had always expected to meet him, cries aloud that this ardent desire of theirs heralded his visit to this country. In the face of both these facts, an impartial person has no need to search through Buddhistic records for the statement that Jesus did come to Tibet.
- Dr. Herman Oldenberg, Buddha."
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KarenNC
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Paarsurvey,
I’m not sure why you choose to post in purple and all in a block rather than in black and broken up into paragraphs. It is certainly extremely difficult to read as it stands.
I’m not sure why you choose to post in purple and all in a block rather than in black and broken up into paragraphs. It is certainly extremely difficult to read as it stands.
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holy_wood
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Do Buddhist believe in sin? If God is not an actual entity then what do they worship?
If he is then how has God revealved himself and what is his testament?
If he is then how has God revealved himself and what is his testament?
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Zooey
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:yup: Yeah, Paarsuurey, even when I disagree with you, I find your posts are always charitable.
But I’m too old & my eyes
can’t read the blur of purple run-on together…
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paarsurrey
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Hi:yup: Yeah, Paarsuurey, even when I disagree with you, I find your posts are always charitable.
But I’m too old & my eyes
I would take care of you and would be posting in black.
Thanks for your appreciation. The disagreement does not matter much if it is in sincerity in search for truth, if we don’t disagree then we humans cannot have much knowledge, one should only agree if one is totally convinced at heart.
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estesbob
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Buddhist beleive in Reincarnation-how that is any way compatible with Christianity is beyond me.
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BrianK2007
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He should reading it sometime.
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rossum
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No. The closest is skillful and unskillful actions. All actions have consequences, skillful actions are actions which take into account their consequences, unskillful actions are those which ignore their consequences:Mind precedes all conditions,
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.
If you speak or act with an evil mind then suffering will follow you,
as the wheel follows the draught ox.
Mind precedes all conditions,
mind is their chief, they are mind-made.
If you speak or act with a pure mind then happiness will follow you,
as a shadow that never leaves.
(Dhammapada 1 vv 1-2)
The downside of this is that there is no forgiveness of sin either - you cannot avoid the consequences of your actions. That is why mindfulness is important in Buddhism, we need to be constantly aware of what we are doing at all times.
There are lots of gods, who you may worship if you wish. However, no god can get you to nirvana. To get to nirvana you follow the Eightfold Path, which does not require the worship of any god.
The Buddha showed us the path to follow, it is up to us to follow it.
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estesbob
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Who revealed the path to Buddah?
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