Buffalo Gay Mens Chorus Performing at Catholic Church

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buffalo:
Here is some reaction in the Buffalo News editorial pages.

Pro-lifers help no one by extolling hate, abuse

…Yet those were the words these folks were calling us with their signs and their voices. The people in front of the church call themselves pro-life. What a monumental joke that is. What a fraud they are. These people are pro-life as long as your life fits into their definition, their mold, of what they feel life should be.

Any deviation from their view of “normal” and there they are, magically appearing on the sidewalk like so many trolls in a “Lord of the Rings” film, protesting with their insulting sandwich boards filled with hateful slogans and slurs.

I think the president of our chorus said it best when interviewed by a local TV station. He stated that if you look at the numbers, the seven individuals outside in the cold, parading on the sidewalk, and compare them to the nearly 700 people inside the church, in the warm and loving atmosphere of good music, good feelings and love, that speaks volumes without saying a word.

Those seven people with their placards, signs and hate - and those like them - will always be out in the cold, no matter what the temperature may be.

Hundreds filled the church to support very worthy causes

Concert by Gay Men’s Chorus will help break down barriers

News missed the real story when covering chorus protest

Please help educate our folks here with Catholic teaching.
You can write your refutation here
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Words of hate from an open homosexual. When is the last time Bill Hardy has peacefully stood during a life chain?
 
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Richardols:
What were the seven protesting?

The fact that the choir was composed of homosexuals? If so, was the choir mingling with the audience to promote homosexuality, or was it there to sing?

The fact that proceeds of the concert were going to Habitat for Humanity and for renovation of the Catholic cathedral?

The fact that homosexuals had stepped foot in a Catholic Church?
Barking up the wrong tree here. I’m heavily involved with Habitat for Humanity. I’ve heavily involved with the Catholic Church. I’m heavily opposed to any group that proudly displays their diabolical actions in their title doing anything inside a Catholic Church wihich contains the Blessed Sacrament. I will make effort to stop this from happening in the future.
 
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buffalo:
At Canisius College - last month.
Missed that one. I don’t get the Buffalo News because I like to start my day happy. Canisius needs to have it’s Catholic idenity yanked. Bishop Kmiec needs to start moving on his “upsetness”. Did he make a statement about McBrien?
 
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Richardols:
What were the seven protesting?

The fact that the choir was composed of homosexuals? If so, was the choir mingling with the audience to promote homosexuality, or was it there to sing?

The fact that proceeds of the concert were going to Habitat for Humanity and for renovation of the Catholic cathedral?

The fact that homosexuals had stepped foot in a Catholic Church?
How about if public wife swappers wanted to sing or pornographers or NAMBLA chorus. Anything goes?
 
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Brad:
Missed that one. I don’t get the Buffalo News because I like to start my day happy. Canisius needs to have it’s Catholic idenity yanked. Bishop Kmiec needs to start moving on his “upsetness”. Did he make a statement about McBrien?
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I am not aware of the Bishop speaking out.
 
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fix:
How about if public wife swappers wanted to sing or pornographers or NAMBLA chorus. Anything goes?
or maybe the Buffalo Straight Man’s Chorus. Gee I wonder if we would be allowed to sing. 😃
 
:confused: I’m about as conservative as you can get but I don’t see anything wrong with them singing at a Catholic Church. It’s not like anyone’s condoning their lifestyle.

Our priest said that it’s not a sin to be born a homosexual. It’s only a mortal sin if they practice it and don’t remain chaste. God loves homosexual people too.

Shannin
 
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shannin:
:confused: I’m about as conservative as you can get but I don’t see anything wrong with them singing at a Catholic Church. It’s not like anyone’s condoning their lifestyle.

Our priest said that it’s not a sin to be born a homosexual. It’s only a mortal sin if they practice it and don’t remain chaste. God loves homosexual people too.

Shannin
Let’s try this again - A chaste homosexual has no need to declare publicly they are homosexual. They have exactly the same rights as anyone else. If they declare themselves it is to further the agenda. An agenda that should not be given platform in the Sanctuary.

Isn’t attending this concert giving implicit approval?

Please help educate our folks here with Catholic teaching.
You can write your refutation here
Letter to the Editor Everybody’s Column
 
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shannin:
:confused: I’m about as conservative as you can get but I don’t see anything wrong with them singing at a Catholic Church. It’s not like anyone’s condoning their lifestyle.

Our priest said that it’s not a sin to be born a homosexual. It’s only a mortal sin if they practice it and don’t remain chaste. God loves homosexual people too.

Shannin
Huh? A “Gay” mens chorus is not chaste. They call themselves “gay”. Why do you think that is? They are foisting that immoral lifestyle on others. They want to appear as if such things are legitimate and moral.
 
Why not a nudist, swinging chorus? They appear fully clothed, but they call themselves nudists and swingers. They give money to poor people. Is that ok?

PS, they were born that way.
 
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buffalo:
Let’s try this again - A chaste homosexual has no need to declare publicly they are homosexual. They have exactly the same rights as anyone else. If they declare themselves it is to further the agenda. An agenda that should not be given platform in the Sanctuary.

Isn’t attending this concert giving implicit approval?
EXACTLY. Why is it necessary to specify your sexual activities when naming a chorus? This is not the same as the Vienna Boys Choir. As fix pointed out, would they have hosted NAMBLA or the KKK?

Lisa N
 
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buffalo:
A chaste homosexual has no need to declare publicly they are homosexual. They have exactly the same rights as anyone else. If they declare themselves it is to further the agenda.
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That is it EXACTLY. Why isn’t it the UU Men’s Choir? Because they wouldn’t be in the news, that’s why!!!
 
Just part of the homosexual agenda to legitimize themselves through the arts. I would think that the local bishop would see this.
 
How bout this article:

Ruckus misses the point of it all: the music

… In short, the Buffalo Gay Men’s Chorus, formed four years ago, has become the center of controversy. Gillis can’t get over the flap that started with the concert.
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 "It was so innocent," he says. "We just  wanted this poor guy to get a roof on his  church." 

 He had thought that attitudes toward  gays had relaxed.
“I remember when they used to take your license number and harass you when you went to a gay bar,” he says. "I thought, "This is 2005. Who cares?’ "
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 Good question.
Let’s get this straight: Parts of the city are turning into the Wild West, with murders and robberies on a large scale. Our county is broke. Our schools are struggling. And the big problem is that there’s a group of guys singing Schubert?

“It’s painful thinking that concert turned into something it never should have been,” says Barbara Wagner, who directs the chorus.

“It was all done with great love, a great sense of justice and truth. We love to sing together. It was such a good cause. And it’s such a gorgeous church.”
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 There's a good side, though, to the  ruckus. The singers see how many friends  they have, often in unlikely places.
“That really is a bold stance that (Temple) Beth Zion has taken - not just on our behalf, but for gay people everywhere,” says Dave Gannon, the chorus’ president.

Gannon, a tenor, was also heartened by the Catholics who supported the church concert. "People were saying, “You boys hang in there.’ These were people in their 60s and 70s,” he says. "There was a nun there. (And) I said, "Thank you for your support.’ She said, "No - thank you.’ "

The protesters argue that homosexuality is sinful, so the singers should have been barred from Blessed Trinity. (The official Catholic position is that homosexual behavior is not approved, but the orientation is accepted.)

** But I’m Catholic, and one thing I like about the religion is that there are always greater authorities who make the decisions. So if the concert was OK with the bishop, then it was OK with me.**

A concert is not about orientation, after all. It’s about music. “All we want to do is sing and share something that’s our passion,” Gillis says. "And there’s a point to saying, “This is who we are.’ We’re your neighbors, friends and brothers. We work with you. We’re everywhere.”

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You can educate Ms. Kunz here: mkunz@buffnews.com
 
It is a matter of scandal to allow avowed unrepentant sinners to perform in a sacred space.
 
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buffalo:
How bout this article:

Ruckus misses the point of it all: the music

But I’m Catholic, and one thing I like about the religion is that there are always greater authorities who make the decisions. So if the concert was OK with the bishop, then it was OK with me.
Where does the buck stop? I can just see the Catholic leaders who allowed this “performance” in a Catholic Church lining up to be fitted for their milestone necklace.
 
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fix:
Why not a nudist, swinging chorus? They appear fully clothed, but they call themselves nudists and swingers. They give money to poor people. Is that ok?

PS, they were born that way.
FIX, You make a good point however I did laugh out loud in reference to your PS!
 
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