Bullying in our Catholic school

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I have two children attending a Catholic school. I have to express my current situation and wonder why our school policies do not involve any type of action for bullying. Every school needs to ask: Do we passively permit bullying by individuals or groups? Do we address bullying in our discipline policies and do we teach our students that bullying causes pain? Do we universally teach our youth that being a bystander to bullying and intimidation both encourages the bully and demeans the bullied? Kids can be mean and I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR especially when it hits close to home. As parents we can make a difference and change this behavior in our school with our voice so that we can be heard…
 
I really do not understand your post. Are you saying that the school has a bullying problem and that it does not address it or are you saying that the school does not make any specific public statement in regard to bullying?
 
I agree with the OP. It’s not just about the bully and the bullied, the bystander has a responsibility that we don’t talk enough about. It’s important that when, either at school or in the workplace, we witness bullying that we don’t choose to do nothing. And our kids need to be educated in this.
 
The Catholic schools my children have attended have all had policies against bullying and consequences for violators of those policies.

IMHO, it’s not the school or the policies. It’s the teachers. Some teachers don’t enforce the policies and the bullies quickly learn how far they can go without repurcussions.
 
I sympathize for you TC. Are your children male or female? If their female I cannot comment on the situation. I hear girls are particularly cliquey, but I honestly didn’t pay much attention to that when I was in school. But if they’re boys, this is my take on the whole “bullying” situation. I don’t intend for this to sound like it lacks compassion, it doesn’t, trust me, it’s just my thoughts as a former high school student and current college student. If you get offended, I understand.

So that said, I’d really like to know the extent of bullying that is going on. When my parents were in school, people got in fights and beat up on a regular basis. That was considered bullying. Most males were raised like men back then and found ways to deal with it, either by fighting back (questionable in most situations, but not inherently wrong when in the right situation) or by simply remaining strong, and toughing out the ordeal (the non-violent, often preferential option).

When I was in high school (just a few years ago), I never once saw a fight. I never saw a fight in my entire life even still. But if somebody called somebody else a “mean name”, that was (ridiculously) called bullying. The current generation of men, thanks to feminism, has been raised to be incredibly effeminate (which is sinful mind you), and to put it bluntly, like wimps. Growing up in this culture, I was a pretty soft young man, and if my feelings got hurt I felt like crying, and often did cry. I actually cried in high school on more than one occasional, not exactly the best image for a high school football player. Finding my faith made me more of a man, and now I can deal with my problems like a man.

If there is physical violence going on in your school, that is absolutely terrible and should be dealt with not just by the school but possibly by law enforcement. But if the extent of bullying is name calling or mocking, I suggest you sit down with your kids and talk to them about dealing with it in a mature manner that doesn’t cower in the face of adversity, or succumb to ill feelings.

There used to be the saying, “sticks and stones.” All of that has been thrown out the window and now the saying is, “words matter.” If men are raised to think that they should be offended when some schmuck makes fun of them, then guess what, they will indeed be very offended when that inevitable schmuck says something that they don’t want to hear. There will always be mean people and there will always people who break the rules. Telling them that words matter only makes it more satisfying for them when they utter harsh words. Men need to be taught to deal with it, rather than being told that they are defenseless when adversity shows itself.

If you want to get rid of suicides resulting from bullying, get rid of feminism, tell fathers that they have a part in raising children too, and raise men like men and women like women.
 
I have two children attending a Catholic school. I have to express my current situation and wonder why our school policies do not involve any type of action for bullying.
I do believe bullying is still an issue in school. We can not let bullying go by. In my experience, private school was even worst than public!
 
I sympathize for you TC. Are your children male or female? If their female I cannot comment on the situation. I hear girls are particularly cliquey, but I honestly didn’t pay much attention to that when I was in school. But if they’re boys, this is my take on the whole “bullying” situation. I don’t intend for this to sound like it lacks compassion, it doesn’t, trust me, it’s just my thoughts as a former high school student and current college student. If you get offended, I understand.

So that said, I’d really like to know the extent of bullying that is going on. When my parents were in school, people got in fights and beat up on a regular basis. That was considered bullying. Most males were raised like men back then and found ways to deal with it, either by fighting back (questionable in most situations, but not inherently wrong when in the right situation) or by simply remaining strong, and toughing out the ordeal (the non-violent, often preferential option).

When I was in high school (just a few years ago), I never once saw a fight. I never saw a fight in my entire life even still. But if somebody called somebody else a “mean name”, that was (ridiculously) called bullying. The current generation of men, thanks to feminism, has been raised to be incredibly effeminate (which is sinful mind you), and to put it bluntly, like wimps. Growing up in this culture, I was a pretty soft young man, and if my feelings got hurt I felt like crying, and often did cry. I actually cried in high school on more than one occasional, not exactly the best image for a high school football player. Finding my faith made me more of a man, and now I can deal with my problems like a man.

If there is physical violence going on in your school, that is absolutely terrible and should be dealt with not just by the school but possibly by law enforcement. But if the extent of bullying is name calling or mocking, I suggest you sit down with your kids and talk to them about dealing with it in a mature manner that doesn’t cower in the face of adversity, or succumb to ill feelings.

There used to be the saying, “sticks and stones.” All of that has been thrown out the window and now the saying is, “words matter.” If men are raised to think that they should be offended when some schmuck makes fun of them, then guess what, they will indeed be very offended when that inevitable schmuck says something that they don’t want to hear. There will always be mean people and there will always people who break the rules. Telling them that words matter only makes it more satisfying for them when they utter harsh words. Men need to be taught to deal with it, rather than being told that they are defenseless when adversity shows itself.

If you want to get rid of suicides resulting from bullying, get rid of feminism, tell fathers that they have a part in raising children too, and raise men like men and women like women.
Through out elementary school I would go home in tears about once a week because I was bullied constantly. I was often told by uncaring teachers to “toughen up” or (oddly enough) quote Bible verses at them. The teachers also told me to “turn the other cheek.” If I physically fought back, I was punished and the bully got off scot free (as far as I know).

What you’re advocating sounds a lot like emotional repression which I eventually resorted to. It took a decent amount of therapy to get over that so I can not agree with what you say at all. Man up? Really? Yes, one should have thick skin, but it’s the teacher’s job to step in. One can only take so much.

On a side note, it was Christian school and the actions of the teachers and the bullies (who were apparently from “christian families”) soured me on Christianity for many years.

I also want to add that having feelings hurt is not being effeminate but being human. Humans have feelings, yes some people are overly touchy, but still, being upset is not an effeminate thing in and of itself.
 
I do believe bullying is still an issue in school. We can not let bullying go by. In my experience, private school was even worst than public!
That was my experience as well, I still harbor a fair amount of hatred for private schools because of my own experience with that.
 
Our experience as well, in our local Catholic school. Any school that ever tries to tell you they do not have a bullying problem…run as fast as you can in the opposite direction. EVERY school has a bullying problem to some degree. The smart school is the one that acknowledges so and has a well functioning system in place to deal with the issue.
 
When I was in high school (just a few years ago), I never once saw a fight. I never saw a fight in my entire life even still. But if somebody called somebody else a “mean name”, that was (ridiculously) called bullying. The current generation of men, thanks to feminism, has been raised to be incredibly effeminate (which is sinful mind you), and to put it bluntly, like wimps. Growing up in this culture, I was a pretty soft young man, and if my feelings got hurt I felt like crying, and often did cry. I actually cried in high school on more than one occasional, not exactly the best image for a high school football player. Finding my faith made me more of a man, and now I can deal with my problems like a man.
I, uh, don’t think you understand at all what the word “feminism” means.
If there is physical violence going on in your school, that is absolutely terrible and should be dealt with not just by the school but possibly by law enforcement. But if the extent of bullying is name calling or mocking, I suggest you sit down with your kids and talk to them about dealing with it in a mature manner that doesn’t cower in the face of adversity, or succumb to ill feelings.
There used to be the saying, “sticks and stones.” All of that has been thrown out the window and now the saying is, “words matter.” If men are raised to think that they should be offended when some schmuck makes fun of them, then guess what, they will indeed be very offended when that inevitable schmuck says something that they don’t want to hear. There will always be mean people and there will always people who break the rules. Telling them that words matter only makes it more satisfying for them when they utter harsh words. Men need to be taught to deal with it, rather than being told that they are defenseless when adversity shows itself.
If you want to get rid of suicides resulting from bullying, get rid of feminism, tell fathers that they have a part in raising children too, and raise men like men and women like women.
You know, the issue is not that men need not to learn that “words matter”. Suicides are not caused by “He said a mean thing to me!”, they are caused by genuine despair. As someone who was bullied at a Catholic middle school (and then had a fantastic experience at a Catholic high school), I can say personally (and I don’t believe that this is uncommon) what hurts so much is not what comes from the bullies themselves as from the feelings of loneliness. Joe Bully didn’t bother me nearly as much by making fun of me so much as Johnny Random did by ignoring me afterwards. That’s the issue-and that’s why the good bullying education programs are aimed not at bullies but at bystanders. When the victim feels alone in the world, that’s when trouble starts.

The key is not to “man up” like some kind of a Last Action Hero, but to let people know that they are not alone, that there are people who care, and that life gets better. Telling kids that they are “wimps” because things hurt…well, that’s just about the last thing you want to do.

PS: As a football player, I can tell you that we cried as much as anybody else when we lost a game. To pretend that you have no emotions is the mark of a child; to admit that you wanted something and that it hurts to have failed is the mark of a man or a woman (and this isn’t some “modern men are wimps” thing; Kenny Stabler said essentially the same thing back in the 1970’s, and if you ever called the Oakland Raiders of the 1970’s wimps, they’ll find you and beat you up even today).
 
Our experience as well, in our local Catholic school. Any school that ever tries to tell you they do not have a bullying problem…run as fast as you can in the opposite direction. EVERY school has a bullying problem to some degree. The smart school is the one that acknowledges so and has a well functioning system in place to deal with the issue.
This is very true.
 
I have two children attending a Catholic school. I have to express my current situation and wonder why our school policies do not involve any type of action for bullying.
Have you considered expressing your concerns to the priest, principal, and school boar?

To me it seems that is the logical place to do so.
 
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