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I use sacramentals as well. They have the blessing of the Church.There is blessed salt and holy water. I use both. I also wear a Miraculous Medal. What about relics?
I use sacramentals as well. They have the blessing of the Church.There is blessed salt and holy water. I use both. I also wear a Miraculous Medal. What about relics?
I totally agree with this. It seems so easy for people to know one’s heart by one sentence or paragraph stated at these forums. It can be very discouraging. Only God can read someone’s heart. He looks at the heart while we look at the outside.Yes, I understand that it is perfectly normal for people to think that they can read other people’s intention, gauge their love of God and devotion to the saints, read their heart. It is perfectly normal for people with this amazing abilility to determine when others are committiung sacrilege and engaging in superstition and idol worship.
Perfectly normal here, yesssss…
-Tim-
It isn’t that I don’t want to hear, at all, about the saints and their devotions.I don’t actually recall placing him upside down (I was making a joke in my last post). I do remember selecting a specific site – in the garden with the loosest and most rich soil – facing the house.
I find it odd, though, that you don’t want to hear who has practiced this devotion in the past or how many have. I mentioned St. Teresa of Avila earlier, who instructed her nuns to bury St. Joseph medals. St. Teresa is a Doctor of the Church. I’m therefore sort of interested in what she did and had to say…![]()
stjosephsite.com/SJS_Prayer_To%20sell%20a%20home.htmIt isn’t that I don’t want to hear, at all, about the saints and their devotions.
But what I wanted to know, is why do YOU do it. Is it something you believe? Or something you do simply because St Teresa did it?
And having a statue buried outside, out of sight is more of a reminder to prayer than say a statue sitting in your living room? Or a rosary in your pocket?stjosephsite.com/SJS_Prayer_To%20sell%20a%20home.htm
catholic-forum.com/saints/stj01002.htm
It is a reminder to be in constant prayer.
I do it because my parents, and grandparents, and great-grandparents did it. I do it for the same reason I bless the rooms of a home with holy water when we move in, or make pretzels during Lent, or pray a rosary before a family member travels. I find a richness in these Catholic and family traditions. They help to connect me with past generations of Catholics and the full history of the faith as it’s been practiced throughout the centuries. I do trust that St. Joseph will hear and answer my prayer (though again, as always, we can’t predict what the answer will be) so yes, it’s something I believe. I’m not claiming everyone else should do the same. I’m merely asking that we refrain from sweeping generalizations about those who bury a statue.It isn’t that I don’t want to hear, at all, about the saints and their devotions.
But what I wanted to know, is why do YOU do it. Is it something you believe? Or something you do simply because St Teresa did it?
And they don’t all solemnly stand around while the head of the household digs a hole and carefully places the statue (right-side up) inside. Nope. They were probably crazy busy, 10 kids, no appliances and mom scoots Billy and his sister Molly out to bury it to give them something to do. Billy dug the hole and Molly was put out because he wouldn’t even let her dig up even one shovelful of dirt so she didn’t really pay attention to how St. Joseph was buried (upside-down). The very next day the house sold (TBTG) and when they dig up the statue that’s when they notice it’s upside-down and when they tell their priest and he assures them that it’s okay that St. Joseph was upside down since God obviously answered their prayers. And so they told someone and they told someone and so on and so on and so on.
You misunderstand. I described how the upside down thing might have started because there is no tradition that would explain it. Superstitions and other folklore are born when one person ascribes the result of an action and another person embraces it.I couldn’t ask for a more opposite description of my family’s practice of this devotion. The contrast is frankly stunning. What a horrible and inflammatory mischaracterization.
If that’s what I did, I genuinely and enthusiastically apologize.You misunderstand. I described how the upside down thing might have started because there is no tradition that would explain it. Superstitions and other folklore are born when one person ascribes the result of an action and another person embraces it.
Thanks for interpreting what I said in the worst possible way because you are attached to this practice.![]()
That would probably explain the upside down practice.You misunderstand. I described how the upside down thing might have started because there is no tradition that would explain it. Superstitions and other folklore are born when one person ascribes the result of an action and another person embraces it.
Thanks for interpreting what I said in the worst possible way because you are attached to this practice.![]()
Little did they know, it was actually because Molly was not allowed to shovel soil, because in scripture it is the MAN who gardens and lives by the sweat of his brow; and this symbolic representation of the proper order of humanity moved heaven. The boy dug the earth; the girl held the child (indicated by the less-than-child-sized St. Joseph statue). The “child,” that is, all the descendants of Eve, were entombed in the darkness of our Fall; but life came through humankind. The old house was removed and a new house was built, and we lived happily ever after.So at some point in the past some a family was trying to sell a house. It’s taking forever and maybe a job is at stake and someone tells them about St. Teresa burying a statue of St. Joseph so that’s what they do. And they don’t all solemnly stand around while the head of the household digs a hole and carefully places the statue (right-side up) inside. Nope. They were probably crazy busy, 10 kids, no appliances and mom scoots Billy and his sister Molly out to bury it to give them something to do. Billy dug the hole and Molly was put out because he wouldn’t even let her dig up even one shovelful of dirt so she didn’t really pay attention to how St. Joseph was buried (upside-down). The very next day the house sold (TBTG) and when they dig up the statue that’s when they notice it’s upside-down and when they tell their priest and he assures them that it’s okay that St. Joseph was upside down since God obviously answered their prayers. And so they told someone and they told someone and so on and so on and so on.
And now kits are sold in Catholic stores.![]()
His feet point to heaven and away from earth. It reminds us that whether the house sells or doesn’t sell, we are pilgrims here and that our true home is in heaven.Does it? Then why bury him upside-down?
Strikes me as a bit of a theological stretch…but to each his ownHis feet point to heaven and away from earth. It reminds us that whether the house sells or doesn’t sell, we are pilgrims here and that our true home is in heaven.
I think that is pretty neat.
-Tim-
Possibly,Because you are figuratively holding him hostage until your house sells.
True !Why would you even do that? Um, excuse me, but I think that it would be better just to ask St. Joseph’s intercession. Don’t even bother about digging a hole an all that mess.