Bush's very good year

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ribozyme said:
Wow… the Left is involved in collusion and conspiracy to cover some vaguely identified “friends.” By doesn’t the Republican party humiliate itself? Aren’t some of its members want to teach creationism (or use the subterfuge of “intelligent design”) in the public school system?

I often read Paul Krugman’s commentary, and I often wonder if he is the only sane and rational person around here. Well, at least he understands reality and doesn’t have to invoke conspiracy theories.
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Gee what a Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious post.
 
ribozyme said:
Wow… the Left is involved in collusion and conspiracy to cover some vaguely identified “friends.” By doesn’t the Republican party humiliate itself? Aren’t some of its members want to teach creationism (or use the subterfuge of “intelligent design”) in the public school system?

I often read Paul Krugman’s commentary, and I often wonder if he is the only sane and rational person around here. Well, at least he understands reality and doesn’t have to invoke conspiracy theories.
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Au contraire!

Ken Timmerman, in his book “Shadow Warriors”, actually names the names.

Nothing at all about "some vaguely identified ‘friends.’ "

No, to the contrary …, Mr. Timmerman names the culprits … that’s what makes it all so upsetting. What makes it even MORE upsetting is that Mr. Timmerman uses their own words against them. Not flattering to the plotters.

amazon.com/Shadow-Warriors-Traitors-Saboteurs-Surrender/dp/0307352099/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199828173&sr=1-1

kentimmerman.com/

Check it out.
 
Regarding the economy and Bush’s policies, I’ll quote from Paul Krugman’s latest column:
Thus, until just the other day Bush administration officials were in denial about the economy’s problems. They were still insisting that the economy was strong, and touting the “Bush boom” — the improvement in the job situation that took place between the summer of 2003 and the end of 2006 — as proof of the efficacy of tax cuts.
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But now, without ever acknowledging that maybe things weren’t that great after all, President Bush is warning that given the economy’s problems, “the worst thing the Congress could do is raise taxes on the American people and on American businesses.”
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And even more dire warnings are coming from some of the Republican presidential candidates. For example, John McCain’s campaign Web site cautions darkly that “Entrepreneurs should not be taxed into submission. John McCain will make the Bush income and investment tax cuts permanent, keeping income tax rates at their current level and fighting the Democrats’ plans for a crippling tax increase in 2011.”
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What “crippling” tax increase, which would tax entrepreneurs into submission, is Mr. McCain talking about? The answer is, proposals by Democrats to let the Bush tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 a year expire, returning upper-income tax rates to the levels that prevailed in the Clinton years.
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And we all remember how little entrepreneurship there was, how weakly the economy performed, during the Clinton years, right? Oh, wait. (I’ve put some charts comparing job performance during the Clinton and Bush years on my Times blog, krugman.blogs.nytimes.com. It’s pretty startling how comparatively weak the Bush era looks.)
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nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Also, here’s something about a future recession:

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7176255.stm

So is Paul Krugman the only empirically-minded and rational person around here?
 
ribozyme said:
Regarding the economy and Bush’s policies, I’ll quote from Paul Krugman’s latest column:

nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Also, here’s something about a future recession:

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7176255.stm

So is Paul Krugman the only empirically-minded and rational person around here?
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Heres some more links about the future recession:

econbrowser.com/archives/2005/08/recession_in_20.html

thekirkreport.com/2004/10/recession_in_20.html

thehindubusinessline.com/2004/08/16/stories/2004081600110800.htm
 
ribozyme said:
So is Paul Krugman the only empirically-minded and rational person around here?
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Krugman is far from empirically minded and rational. His hatred of the present administration appears to consume him, so much so that he has lost all objectivity.

Krugman is not the only commentator that this has happened to. There are several others whose writings are not worth reading.
 
MelanieAnne said:
Krugman is far from empirically minded and rational. His hatred of the present administration appears to consume him, so much so that he has lost all objectivity.

Krugman is not the only commentator that this has happened to. There are several others whose writings are not worth reading.
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MelanieAnne said:
Krugman is far from empirically minded and rational. His hatred of the present administration appears to consume him, so much so that he has lost all objectivity.

Krugman is not the only commentator that this has happened to. There are several others whose writings are not worth reading.
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Paul Krugman at least understands reality. I do think he is worth listening too.

Well, one does have good reason to hate the Bush Administration.

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Unemployment rate.

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Employment participation

Graphs courtesy of P. Krugman.

Gee… I wonder why employment isn’t doing well under Bush compared to Clinton. I wonder why he isn’t adhering to the alleged GOP platform of work and personal responsibility. I wonder why Bill Clinton suceeded in passing welfare reform and creating employment opportunities.
 
ribozyme said:
Paul Krugman at least understands reality. I do think he is worth listening too.

Well, one does have good reason to hate the Bush Administration.

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Unemployment rate.

http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/participation.jpg
Employment participation

Graphs courtesy of P. Krugman.

Gee… I wonder why employment isn’t doing well under Bush compared to Clinton. I wonder why he isn’t adhering to the alleged GOP platform of work and personal responsibility. I wonder why Bill Clinton suceeded in passing welfare reform and creating employment opportunities.
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You are to young to realize that Unemployment is still at historic lows. You are also too young to remember Clinton had pervioulsy vetoed the republican welfare plan(rejected by almost all democrats in congress but signed it in an election year(again over the vehement objections of the democrats in congress)
 
estesbob said:
You are to young to realize that Unemployment is still at historic lows. You are also too young to remember Clinton had pervioulsy vetoed the republican welfare plan(rejected by almost all democrats in congress but signed it in an election year(again over the vehement objections of the democrats in congress)
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You make welfare reform sound like a bad thing. 😊

I do think the five year limit is too short for some people, but in some Scandinavian countries, they at least pay for retraining.
 
I’m beginning to see why some people think Krugman makes sense to them. 😃
 
ribozyme said:
You make welfare reform sound like a bad thing. 😊

I do think the five year limit is too short for some people, but in some Scandinavian countries, they at least pay for retraining.
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It was a great thing and it helped millions of America get of the dole and live better lives. the point is that giving Clinton credit for it is ludicrous.

Unfortunately Bush is stuck cleaning up the mess Clinton left. He had several l opportunities to take out Bin laden and passed them up sayingthey didnt have a strong enough “legal” case against him. Clinton and the Democrat party today feel the best way to fight terrorism is with lawyers.
 
estesbob said:
It was a great thing and it helped millions of America get of the dole and live better lives. the point is that giving Clinton credit for it is ludicrous.

Unfortunately Bush is stuck cleaning up the mess Clinton left. He had several l opportunities to take out Bin laden and passed them up sayingthey didnt have a strong enough “legal” case against him. Clinton and the Democrat party today feel the best way to fight terrorism is with lawyers.
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I only regret it because it would have saved us from the War in Iraq.
I’m beginning to see why some people think Krugman makes sense to them.
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What? What is that supposed to mean?
 
ribozyme said:
I only regret it because it would have saved us from the War in Iraq.

It is refreshing to know that you realize that it is Clinton’s failures that lead to September 11 and further conflict and the death of thousands.

What? What is that supposed to mean?
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It means that I recognize the inability of some people to think clearly, at least on some subjects, when I see it.*
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