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JulianN
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As do I – and I’ve never considered prolonging debt to be a sign of some kind of virtue.
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BoomBoomMancini
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Oh, I doubt it.
I understand that. But if you think China is going to risk the diplomatic fallout of messing with foreigners for having Bibles for zero gain, you’re insane. China is a pretty cynical sort of place. There’s no upside to pestering some American for reading a Bible in his hotel room.
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Pup7
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US interest rates just took a hike and are about to take another one per the Treasury.
Just because rates are low doesn’t mean one should pass up an opportunity to pay off a mortgage - especially since a mortgage is a 15 to 30 year debt and we don’t know what their rate was when they opened escrow - and more importantly, we don’t know how much it’s for.
Ever read your amortization table? I would recommend a glass of wine if you haven’t looked at it before. Look up the cost of $100K at thirty years even at the lowest rate currently available (which is still higher than it was four years ago when we bought our last house)…
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JackMcCoy
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Stay in America. Attend Mass. Better less money and more God.
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dochawk
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Particularly, compare the principal payed each early month to the size of the payment.
Typically, a double payment the first month will knock more than a year off the loan . .
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JackMcCoy
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Each to their own, but next to Russia, China is one of the last places I would like to visit.
There are too many nice places in the free world to visit. But, that’s just me.
There are too many nice places in the free world to visit. But, that’s just me.
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MCH1
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Your husband needs a dispensation from your pastor before missing mass, so talk to your priest if this the route you are going to take.
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DarkLight
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My understanding is westerners are requested to attend only the approved masses. The reason is that westerners are much more conspicuous, and showing up at an unauthorized service could draw unwanted attention.
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Pup7
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I would request dispensation. I have no desire to do time in a Chinese political prison and create an international incident in the name of helping my family get ahead. I would think any rational individual would grant it.
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DarkLight
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Let me clarify. Westerners are requested to attend only Masses approved by the Chinese government. The danger is that by attending a Mass that is not sanctioned by the government, a western visitor is likely to draw attention to the gathering and potentially cause trouble for the locals involved.
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Pup7
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I got that. And that is precisely why I said I would request dispensation.Pup7:
Let me clarify. Westerners are requested to attend only Masses approved by the Chinese government. The danger is that by attending a Mass that is not sanctioned by the government, a western visitor is likely to draw attention to the gathering and potentially cause trouble for the locals involved.
Having lived in Asia, I know well how conspicuous we are. I’d rather not be on the radar of the Chinese government. I assure you, those services are well monitored.
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DarkLight
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Fair enough, just making sure we’re on the same page!
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dochawk
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Years ago, our parish at the time put out a place for parents to adopt.
As we looked at the program, it became clear that both,
- I would be paying a $10,000 fee to the chinese government, and
- That we would have to be approved by the chinese government.
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Allegra
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The Masses said at the government sanctioned Catholic churches are valid and licit, so there’s no problem if your husband attends them. I’d be more concerned about separating from your husband for nine months! Do you have any children yet? I would be very much concerned about that, if it was me!
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Pup7
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People do this every day. People sign up to do this every day in my world. Just waiting for someone to say “but that’s different” - it’s actually not.
It’s manageable.
It’s manageable.
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Allegra
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Lots of people don’t manage it, and for those who do, it still sucks. I would be reluctant to sign up for it, particularly if I had young children at home.
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Pup7
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Many do, which was my point. With multiple small children.
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dochawk
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They are valid.
It’s not that they’re licit, but rather that church law permits attendance. There are ongoing discussions between the Church and the Chinese state on some kind of accomodation.
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Allegra
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That seems like a distinction without a difference, but okay.
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dochawk
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It’s the same permission as for Orthodox sacraments when Catholic are not available. That is, it’s an accommodation for the circumstances of licit being unavailable. If licit RCC services were to suddenly open up in town, which could be attended without endangering the hosts, the exception wouldn’t apply.
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