Bypassing RCIA?

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If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
 
If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
I’ve been a Catholic my entire life (almost a half a century) and I don’t “100% understand” everything the Church teaches. If I did, I would never have to ask questions of my Priest nor post here. Therefore, I would have to say that one should not assume complete understanding of anything especially God’s Church. If the “non-Catholic” wishes to become a Catholic, he/she should set pride and ego aside and replace it with a heart yearning to learn.

However, if the “non-Catholic” wanted a truly legalistic answer to his/her question, he/she should speak to a priest or the Bishop.
 
Come on, you know what I mean! Pride is my strongest weakness, but in this case I was just asking a sincere question. I just don’t want to have to wait much longer to receive the Eucharist!!!:(:(:(:(:(😦

(I am under the impression that they only teach the basic parts of the faith, such as what a sacrament is, etc.)

I read the catechism everyday and have a decent understanding and believe everything in it.
 
Come on, you know what I mean. I am not being prideful. I just don’t want to have to wait much longer to receive the Eucharist!!!

(I didn’t literally mean 100%. I just meant that I have the catechism and have a decent understanding and believe everything in it.)
Yes, I understand what you mean. Again, you need to speak to a priest or the Bishop of your diocese. Normally, the Church wants to ensure that those coming into the faith truly have the knowledge and understanding required for one to be a good Catholic. Unfortunately, in the past, the Church has had people instructing who either lacked the knowledge needed or who willfully misled others. Today, we actually have people who believe that they can be Catholic and pro-abortion, use contraception, etc. It is extremely important that people don’t simply “believe” that they know and understand the faith but that they actually do! Take care and God bless you on your journey home.
 
Do I just walk in the church tomorrow ans say I wan to be Catholic?
 
If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
When I was exploring the idea of become a Catholic it was highly recommended that I take the RCIA classes in order to be FULLY prepared for the Sacrament of Confirmation. Unfortunately, the classes were cut shorter than normal in my case because the class teacher left before the official ending of the class. I would recommend you talking to a Catholic Church office of your choosing about the RCIA and their requirements. In my church, after I told them I was already baptized, they asked if I had a Certificate of Baptism (which, unfortunately, I didn’t) as proof. So if you have one bring it with you to the office. I hope and pray this helps you in your decision to come into FULL communion with the Church and become Catholic.

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If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
You do not have to go through RCIA if you are validly baptized- and you know enough about the Catholic Faith. I wasn’t baptized before my conversion, but even if I had been, I still needed the experience I got from going through a process that required patience and a time commitment from me. RCIA shouldn’t just be about learning things from a book- people can buy and read books themselves. RCIA should be more than that- it is a kind of faith formation- and that can help you even if you already know a lot about the Faith.
 
Read the following and then think to yourself if you fully understand everything you are saying. If you do not, then you need instruction.

You are allowed to use this form when you are received into the church. It is very beautiful especially when read aloud and an awsome withness to the Catholic Faith:

Profession of Tridentine Faith, 1564

I, [Insert Your name] , with a firm faith believe and profess each and everything which is contained in the Creed which the Holy Roman Church maketh use of. To wit:
I believe in one God, The Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God. Born of the Father before all ages. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God. Begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father. By whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven. And became incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the Virgin Mary: and was made man. He was also crucified for us, suffered under Pontius Pilate, and was buried. And on the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, Who proceeds from the Father and the Son. Who together with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, and who spoke through the prophets. And one holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I await the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

I most steadfastly admit and embrace Apostolical and ecclesiastical traditions, and all other observances and constitutions of the Church.

I also admit the Holy Scripture according to that sense which our holy mother the Church hath held, and doth hold, to whom it belongeth to judge of the true sense and interpretations of the Scriptures. Neither will I ever take and interpret them otherwise than according to the unanimous consent of the Fathers.

I also profess that there are truly and properly Seven Sacraments of the New Law, instituted by Jesus Christ our Lord, and necessary for the salvation of mankind, though not all for every one; to wit, Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Extreme Unction, Holy Orders, and Matrimony; and that they confer grace; and that of these, Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders cannot be reiterated without sacrilege.

I also receive and admit the received and approved ceremonies of the Catholic Church in the solemn administration of the aforesaid sacraments.

I embrace and receive all and every one of the things which have been defined and declared in the holy Council of Trent concerning original sin and justification.

I profess, likewise, that in the Mass there is offered to God a true, proper, and propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead; and that in the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist there is truly, really, and substantially, the Body and Blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ; and that there is made a conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, which conversion the Catholic Church calls Transubstantiation. I also confess that under either kind alone Christ is received whole and entire, and a true sacrament.

I constantly hold that there is a Purgatory, and that the souls therein detained are helped by the suffrages of the faithful. Likewise, that the saints, reigning together with Christ, are to be honored and invoked, and that they offer prayers to God for us, and that their relics are to be venerated.

I most firmly assert that the images of Christ, of the Mother of God, ever virgin, and also of other Saints, ought to be had and retained, and that due honor and veneration is to be given them.

I also affirm that the power of indulgences was left by Christ in the Church, and that the use of them is most wholesome to Christian people.

I acknowledge the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church as the mother and mistress of all churches; and I promise true obedience to the Bishop of Rome, successor to St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and Vicar of Jesus Christ.

I likewise undoubtedly receive and profess all other things delivered, defined, and declared by the sacred Canons, and general Councils, and particularly by the holy Council of Trent, and by the ecumenical Council of the Vatican, particularly concerning the primacy of the Roman Pontiff and his infallible teaching. I condemn, reject, and anathematize all things contrary thereto, and all heresies which the Church hath condemned, rejected, and anathematized.

This true Catholic faith, outside of which no one can be saved, which I now freely profess and to which I truly adhere, inviolate and with firm constancy until the last breath of life, I do so profess and swear to maintain with the help of God. And I shall strive, as far as possible, that this same faith shall be held, taught, and professed by all those over whom I have charge. I, [Insert Your Name]., do so pledge, promise, and swear, so help me God and these Holy Gospels.
 
Yes I do for the millionth time! I have been studying Catholicism for several years now.
 
RCIA is a few months out of you life, compare that to the lifetime you will spend in the Church and it will seem very short.

Go through RCIA, enjoy it, share what you have learned in your years of study with others in RCIA. Everyone will be the better for it.
 
Yes I do for the millionth time! I have been studying Catholicism for several years now.
A properly catechized Christian can be received in full Communion in a matter of weeks. There is no requirement to go through a year of preparation and be received at the Easter Vigil. In fact, one of the articles in the RCIA books says that (I’m paraphrasing) no hardship should be imposed on the Christian wanting to be received – IOW, no hoops to jump through nor unnecessarily prolonged preparation.

A conversation with the priest or the diocesan person responsible for RCIA should resolve the issue.
 
If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
No, it does not have to take a whole year. I contacted my local parish in early January, and was accepted into the Catholic Church at the Easter Vigil that March (I had not been baptized previously). Instead of RCIA, I met one-on-one with the Director of Religious Education.

Call your local parish, ask to speak to the RCIA coordinator, talk to him/her, attend a class and see what your options are.

 
No, it does not have to take a whole year. I contacted my local parish in early January, and was accepted into the Catholic Church at the Easter Vigil that March (I had not been baptized previously). Instead of RCIA, I met one-on-one with the Director of Religious Education.

Unfortunately, even if that happened in your parish, it isn’t what is expected from the Church which sees as the ideal that a catechumen be in the catechumenate for a full year. I hope that nobody reading this would expect to go from inquiry to Baptism in less than 3 months.
 
What about an Eastern Orthodox Christian? Do they have to go through RCIA? My friend has been contemplating conversion for a while. She has become very well studied in both Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicim (there is no Byz. Cath. church any where near us). She has been attending RC services with my family.
Would she have to take RCIA or just tell the Priest she wants to make her profession of faith and show up at Mass and do so, plus the paper work?
 
Unfortunately, even if that happened in your parish, it isn’t what is expected from the Church which sees as the ideal that a catechumen be in the catechumenate for a full year. I hope that nobody reading this would expect to go from inquiry to Baptism in less than 3 months.
The year’s catechumenate was seen for someone who is unbaptized and doesn’t have a clue about God or Christianity. Unfortunately, many dioceses make that a blanket requirement, even if the person is already fully informed.

In my case, I had been a serious Christian (pentecostal/evangelical) for almost 30 years, and I had been studying Catholicism almost daily for nine months. I went thru RCIA out of obedience, but it was a complete waste of time. The most interesting session was when the director brought someone in from the diocese to talk about annulments. I hadn’t studied anything on that, because it didn’t apply to my situation.

DaveBj
 
RCIA seems to be more worthwhile in some places than others.

But consider that there may be a point to it other than learning the material. It is a time to get to know other people who are getting ready to make the same commitment that you are, and share their experience, and yours. Also, perhaps there are things that you will be able to bring to the group that would be of benefit to all.
 
If a non-catholic is validly baptized and knows the Catholic Church is the true church, and 100% understands and believes everything the church teaches, and believes that the Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, do they still have to go through RCIA???

And if they do, does it still take a whole year?
In most parishes everyone who wants to become Catholic goes through RCIA. The simple fact is that there aren’t enough volunteers to deal with each individual inquirer.

That means that you end up with a range of people and a range of knowledge, experience, and belief. But even someone who is knowledgeable about the faith ends up learning new things. I’ve had multiple sponsors tell me that they’ve enjoyed coming to class because they learned so much, and these are people who are faithful Catholics.

How long it takes again depends on the parish. Ideally things can be tailored so that people can take a longer or shorter time. But again, that’s not always possible. In my parish we have people start at various times during the year and we schedule their reception of the sacraments at various times when both the candidate and RCIA director discern that they’re ready. In other parishes I know, everyone starts in September and receives their sacraments at Easter; in others everyone goes through a two-year process (including those Catholics who only need to be confirmed).

Becoming Catholic means becoming part of a community, and that means doing things the way the community does them.

Blessings as you start on this journey.
 
What about an Eastern Orthodox Christian? Do they have to go through RCIA?
My understanding is that they don’t go through RCIA but simply make a profession of faith. I believe they enter the Eastern Catholic church that corresponds to their Orthodox rite. I’m afraid my knowledge of this is vague since I haven’t encountered it yet. But the place to start would be to check with their local parish.
 
Unfortunately, even if that happened in your parish, it isn’t what is expected from the Church which sees as the ideal that a catechumen be in the catechumenate for a full year. I hope that nobody reading this would expect to go from inquiry to Baptism in less than 3 months.
That is not true! There is no church requirement to wait a year. In any event many RCIA programs are run by lay people and not clergy. While there may be some theological sound RCIA programs, I have looked at the material from many and found that they are run by very liberal committees. Some with their own agenda.
 
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